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Miscellaneous => Ammunition, Reloading, and Range Reports => Ammunition => Topic started by: gregsthe1 on November 15, 2016, 03:32:49 PM

Title: Chinese ammo can
Post by: gregsthe1 on November 15, 2016, 03:32:49 PM
Found this in my stash of ammo cans. Don't remember picking it up but I'm glad I did :) I'm smart enough to know that it is 7.62x39 and there are 550 rounds inside (I assume on stripper clips), but I can't tell what factory it was made at or what year it was made in from the rest of the numbers.

Can someone please decipher this for me?

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah148/gregfinton/123%20023_zpss813cvvw.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/gregfinton/media/123%20023_zpss813cvvw.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Chinese ammo can
Post by: running-man on November 15, 2016, 03:53:38 PM
Quote from: gregsthe1 on November 15, 2016, 03:32:49 PM
Found this in my stash of ammo cans. Don't remember picking it up but I'm glad I did :) I'm smart enough to know that it is 7.62x39 and there are 550 rounds inside (I assume on stripper clips), but I can't tell what factory it was made at or what year it was made in from the rest of the numbers.

Can someone please decipher this for me?

Chinese markings typically run like this:

Lot #64, made in 1975, factory 31 is how I'd read it.

I did some research on these way back in the Chinese SKS dating thread: http://sks-files.com/index.php?topic=360.msg10495#msg10495
Title: Re: Chinese ammo can
Post by: gregsthe1 on November 15, 2016, 09:25:07 PM
Thank you thumb1
Title: Re: Chinese ammo can
Post by: newchi on January 19, 2017, 07:47:53 PM
way back in the day i made these to explain the markings.
(https://s23.postimg.org/h5tj9aykn/chinese_code_2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/h5tj9aykn/)

(https://s23.postimg.org/sjg2ki93b/chinese_ammo_can.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/sjg2ki93b/)

Title: Re: Chinese ammo can
Post by: Luke2236 on January 20, 2017, 11:29:09 AM
Quote from: newchi on January 19, 2017, 07:47:53 PM
way back in the day i made these to explain the markings.
(https://s23.postimg.org/h5tj9aykn/chinese_code_2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/h5tj9aykn/)

(https://s23.postimg.org/sjg2ki93b/chinese_ammo_can.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/sjg2ki93b/)

Good to know, thanks!
Title: Re: Chinese ammo can
Post by: running-man on January 20, 2017, 01:32:52 PM
Quote from: newchi on January 19, 2017, 07:47:53 PM
way back in the day i made these to explain the markings.
(https://s23.postimg.org/h5tj9aykn/chinese_code_2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/h5tj9aykn/)

(https://s23.postimg.org/sjg2ki93b/chinese_ammo_can.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/sjg2ki93b/)

Would you happen to have a set of photos showing the markings on the outside of the crate as well as showing the same markings on the individual headstamps?  I have various sets of photos I've collected from the net showing each of these, but I don't have anything that shows the crate -> tin -> headstamp marking consistency of a single batch of ammo.
Title: Re: Chinese ammo can
Post by: newchi on January 20, 2017, 04:33:29 PM
First the SKS ammo.
I cant get a photo of the headstamp to show anything. 
And the painted over side shows through with flash so i included it.
(https://s27.postimg.org/k2g42tm33/IMG_4051.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/k2g42tm33/)

(https://s27.postimg.org/xkn0f3y8f/IMG_4054.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xkn0f3y8f/)

(https://s27.postimg.org/kuis20qa7/IMG_4056.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/kuis20qa7/)
Title: Re: Chinese ammo can
Post by: newchi on January 20, 2017, 04:43:25 PM
wow, i just learn-ed something.
The head stamp is 71 over 68 and the mfg code is 71 over 68  :o

Ignore the dented primers, i got lazy and just degreased the small mosin parts instead of putting them in the oven, lesson learned.

(https://s23.postimg.org/6n2i7wr47/20141111_091421.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6n2i7wr47/)

(https://s23.postimg.org/h5tj9aykn/chinese_code_2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/h5tj9aykn/)




Title: Re: Chinese ammo can
Post by: newchi on January 20, 2017, 04:49:43 PM
This is the mosin ammo box.
Whats does the painted over side mean? i dont know.

(https://s24.postimg.org/gv0stwesx/IMG_4053.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gv0stwesx/)

(https://s24.postimg.org/bkvu2luk1/IMG_4058.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bkvu2luk1/)

(https://s24.postimg.org/k4f80d2wh/IMG_4059.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/k4f80d2wh/)


image upload no size limit (https://postimage.org/)
Title: Re: Chinese ammo can
Post by: newchi on January 20, 2017, 05:07:33 PM
the sks ammo head stamp is 61 over 74, just like on the can, its almost like the numbers mean something.
Title: Re: Chinese ammo can
Post by: Greasemonkey on January 20, 2017, 08:37:05 PM
Quote from: newchi on January 20, 2017, 05:07:33 PM
the sks ammo head stamp is 61 over 74, just like on the can, its almost like the numbers mean something.

They do.... it was made at Factory 61 in '74. I have some x54r ammo from Factory 61, I want to say it's mid 60s dated.
Title: Re: Chinese ammo can
Post by: newchi on January 21, 2017, 10:00:17 PM
found another i made
Bulgarian
(https://s29.postimg.org/kjw1x6yub/bulg.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/kjw1x6yub/)

and one of the same cans from before done differently.
At one point i think i wanted to do every can type and country, but attention span and all tha...

(https://s27.postimg.org/73ki2lu0f/chinese_can.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/73ki2lu0f/)