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General Milsurp Weapons => Milsurp Rifles & Carbines => German => Topic started by: Phosphorus32 on May 15, 2016, 05:05:56 PM

Title: G33/40
Post by: Phosphorus32 on May 15, 2016, 05:05:56 PM
The German section has been quiet for a while. I picked this up at the last Poulin's Auction and finally got some reasonable pictures taken.

The G33/40 is a German carbine chambered in 7.92x57mm that was derived from the Czech police carbine, the VZ33, and adopted in 1940 by the Wehrmacht, hence the name.  It's odd that the G for Gewehr, rifle, is chosen instead of K but so it is. It was made at Československá zbrojovka (CZ) in Brno, or Waffenfabrik Brünn (code: 945 through 1940, thereafter dot), as the Germans named CZ after they annexed Czechoslovakia and seized their arms industry. It was only manufactured from 1940-42 with production of about 40,000 units per year for a total of about 120,000. (In 1943, Waffenfabrik Brünn switched to production of K98k rifles through 1945, with code dot in 1943-44, and swp45 in 1945.) The G33/40 was designed with the Gebirgsjäger (mountain light infantry) in mind, therefore, there was an emphasis on minimizing weight. The bolt knob is hollow, there are lightening cuts on both sides of the receiver and of course it is a short true carbine with a barrel of just 490mm (19.3"). I know the length was the same on the VZ33 but I'm not certain of the other features, since I've never seen one disassembled.  The weight is under 8 lbs and it definitely feels light and points quickly, as expected for a 39" rifle (as all of us SKS fans are familiar with). A reinforcing buttplate/kickplate was added on the left side of the buttstock in order to protect the stock when it was used as a climbing aid.

My G33/40 was produced during the first year of production in 1940, hence the 945 code. It has a solid walnut stock and handguard. The stock matches the receiver and barrel but the handguard and bolt are mismatched. It is also missing the front sight hood, which unfortunately is not the same as a K98k sight hood so it's in the hen's teeth category. The buttplate/sideplate are chrome-plated with flecks of rust. No import stamp, which is normal for these, since the majority were imported before the 1968 GCA or were bringbacks. CZ marks characteristic of Československá zbrojovka are seen on the receiver bottom, rear sight base and bayonet lug. The "N5" on the reverse of the bolt root are typical of Czech made bolts, letters and numbers vary. The Waa63 is consistent with Waffenfabrik Brünn manufacture.

I haven't had a chance to fire this yet but I expect a lightweight carbine length firearm chambered in 7.92 is going to have significant felt recoil  :o

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/945.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/945.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/right%201%20full.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/right%201%20full.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/right%202%20rear.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/right%202%20rear.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/right%203%20mid.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/right%203%20mid.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/right%204%20front.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/right%204%20front.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/left%201%20full.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/left%201%20full.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/left%202%20rear.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/left%202%20rear.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/left%203%20mid.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/left%203%20mid.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/left%204%20front.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/left%204%20front.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/buttplate%20detail.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/buttplate%20detail.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/rear%20sight%20leaf.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/rear%20sight%20leaf.jpg.html)


SERIAL NUMBERS

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/SN%20barrel%20and%20rec.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/SN%20barrel%20and%20rec.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/SN%20receiver.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/SN%20receiver.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/SN%20stock.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/SN%20stock.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/bolt%20root%20Waa.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/bolt%20root%20Waa.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/rec%20ring%20right%20eagle.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/rec%20ring%20right%20eagle.jpg.html)

CZ (Circle Z) MARKS

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/CZ%20mark%20rec%20bottom.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/CZ%20mark%20rec%20bottom.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/CZ%20mark%20rear%20sight.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/CZ%20mark%20rear%20sight.jpg.html)


LIGHTENING

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/lightening20cut20left.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/lightening20cut20left.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/lightening20cut20right.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/lightening20cut20right.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/bolt%20Waa63.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/bolt%20Waa63.jpg.html)


(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/bore%201.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/bore%201.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/bore%202.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/bore%202.jpg.html)
Title: Re: G33/40
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on May 15, 2016, 06:22:14 PM
Dang dude....     I hate you!!!
Title: Re: G33/40
Post by: Phosphorus32 on May 15, 2016, 06:47:02 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on May 15, 2016, 06:22:14 PM
Dang dude....     I hate you!!!

rofl Thank-you!
Title: Re: G33/40
Post by: Bunker on May 15, 2016, 07:28:45 PM
Very nice!!! And to think all we needed to do is keep the German section quiet.
Title: Re: G33/40
Post by: Phosphorus32 on May 15, 2016, 08:04:34 PM
Quote from: Bunker on May 15, 2016, 07:28:45 PM
Very nice!!! And to think all we needed to do is keep the German section quiet.

Thanks Bunker! Sometimes one has to make sacrifices to keep the sub-forums active  ;)  :))
Title: Re: G33/40
Post by: Phosphorus32 on May 16, 2016, 05:05:15 PM
Images of the G33/40 in use by Gebirsjäger during WWII

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/Gebirgsjaeger%20G33%2040%20image%203.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/Gebirgsjaeger%20G33%2040%20image%203.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/Gebirgsjaeger%20G33%2040%20image%204.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/Gebirgsjaeger%20G33%2040%20image%204.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/Gebirgsjaeger%20G33%2040%20image%202.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/Gebirgsjaeger%20G33%2040%20image%202.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/G33%2040%20945/Gebirgsjaeger%20G33%2040%20image%201.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/G33%2040%20945/Gebirgsjaeger%20G33%2040%20image%201.jpg.html)
Title: Re: G33/40
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on May 16, 2016, 09:34:57 PM
I'll like you again only if I can shoot it.   
Title: Re: G33/40
Post by: Phosphorus32 on May 16, 2016, 09:56:24 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on May 16, 2016, 09:34:57 PM
I'll like you again only if I can shoot it.

Well, if you ever swing through Eastern Wasington, that could be arranged  :)
Title: Re: G33/40
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on May 16, 2016, 10:47:45 PM
Fine!     cry1


chuckles1
Title: Re: G33/40
Post by: Dannyboy53 on May 21, 2016, 12:25:06 PM
Beautiful little creation Jon, I can't make it to eastern Washington so fire a couple rounds for me! You did good, congratulations.
Title: Re: G33/40
Post by: Phosphorus32 on May 21, 2016, 12:48:39 PM
Quote from: Dannyboy53 on May 21, 2016, 12:25:06 PM
Beautiful little creation Jon, I can't make it to eastern Washington so fire a couple rounds for me! You did good, congratulations.

Thanks Danny! Wish we didn't live in opposite corners of the country so you could drop by and take a few shots too  :)
Title: Re: G33/40
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on May 21, 2016, 01:18:56 PM
Hey HEY.......     bat1

Save some ammo


chuckles1
Title: Re: G33/40
Post by: Phosphorus32 on May 21, 2016, 02:15:53 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on May 21, 2016, 01:18:56 PM
Hey HEY.......     bat1

Save some ammo


chuckles1

I think we'll be okay  :-\  :)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/M75%20Mauser%20Ammo/40mm%20can%20of%208mm.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/M75%20Mauser%20Ammo/40mm%20can%20of%208mm.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/M75%20Mauser%20Ammo/40mm%20can%20of%208mm%20inside.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/M75%20Mauser%20Ammo/40mm%20can%20of%208mm%20inside.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/M75%20Mauser%20Ammo/IMG_2812.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/M75%20Mauser%20Ammo/IMG_2812.jpg.html)

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/M75%20Mauser%20Ammo/IMG_2813.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/M75%20Mauser%20Ammo/IMG_2813.jpg.html)
Title: Re: G33/40
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on May 21, 2016, 02:19:21 PM
 :))
Title: Re: G33/40
Post by: Dannyboy53 on May 21, 2016, 04:39:31 PM
May God bless you for your kindness Jon, thank you. I believe you have enough ammo to hold off a small army!  stickup1
Title: Re: G33/40
Post by: MEBears on May 21, 2016, 06:00:02 PM
That's a beauty! I bet it has a quite a bark.
Title: Re: G33/40
Post by: Phosphorus32 on May 21, 2016, 08:52:14 PM
Quote from: MEBears on May 21, 2016, 06:00:02 PM
That's a beauty! I bet it has a quite a bark.

Thanks!  I'm sure it does. Still haven't taken it to the range but soon.
Title: Re: G33/40
Post by: Blicero on May 26, 2016, 01:18:25 PM
Gebirgsjaeger! Great score! 1940s are tough to find.
I would be tempted to just call that one a retiree. It's earned it. Or at least take the handguard off if you must shoot it. It looks like it's ready to split wide open.
Title: Re: G33/40
Post by: Phosphorus32 on May 26, 2016, 03:17:53 PM
Thanks!

Yes, removing the handguard would be prudent. I need to shoot it  :)