As part of my gunsmithing schooling, I get monthly email newsletters with lots of interesting articles. Tonight I got a new one, and low and behold, there is a write up about the SKS-D.
It's not a bad article, but what really caught my attention was two of the pictures.... one of them shows the gun has no bayo provision, and the other one shows the receiver marked "SKS-D" !!!!!!
Oh....and it's has short gas system, but with a 20" barrel!
http://www.gunsandgunsmiths.com/?p=4496
It's like the bastard giant stepchild of an SKS M and an SKSS!
Gotta be a very late version though right? Maybe 92 thru 94? I wish we could see the first digit if the S/N.
Quote from: running-man on March 03, 2016, 11:34:09 PM
It's like the bastard giant stepchild of an SKS M and an SKSS!
Gotta be a very late version though right? Maybe 92 thru 94? I wish we could see the first digit if the S/N.
I have no idea.... I have never seen a D with a short gas system, no bayo, or that actually said SKS-D... Supposedly that was not the official designation of the rifle. This is pretty huge IMO.
Must be Canada
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on March 03, 2016, 11:56:56 PM
Must be Canada
Yeah Canada. I have been setting on several picks of these rifles. Thanks to new member fenceline I finally have pics of a serial number. It has a prefix of 02. It is believed they were imported 02. A new section of the guide on Canadian AK mag rifles coming soon...
8)...........Joe
Cool. 8)
Very nice. I wonder if the 'SKS D' was stamped because thats what it was called, or was it put there because that's what everyone called it? (i.e. Calling any copy a 'Xerox', any tissue a 'Kleenex', any web search 'to Google' etc.)
No... The ones that have other model designations are all Dees because of the drop free 'clip'... bat1
Quote from: running-man on March 04, 2016, 08:53:16 AM
Very nice. I wonder if the 'SKS D' was stamped because thats what it was called, or was it put there because that's what everyone called it? (i.e. Calling any copy a 'Xerox', any tissue a 'Kleenex', any web search 'to Google' etc.)
So are you thinking that SKS-D stamp in an import stamp then?
Story 'was', US importers asked china for the d to be made right? Since its on a Canada gun, me thinks its applied in china and isn't a US designation specifically.
I almost want to say that since everyone calls SKSs with an AK mag "D's", this one was marked "D" even though it's not a D as we know them here in the states from the 80's and 90's. I don't think Canada has import mark requirements, so yeah I'd think it was applied in China, though perhaps to the importers specifications ("We can sell these much easier if they said D!")
All conjecture though, it's a darn neat gun, I'd love to have them in the US. I wonder if they could be imported here via the 5 year proscribed country rule? I guess it would depend on whether the original gun was purpose built for military and was truly surplus or not.
Quote from: running-man on March 04, 2016, 07:07:03 PM
I almost want to say that since everyone calls SKSs with an AK mag "D's", this one was marked "D" even though it's not a D as we know them here in the states from the 80's and 90's. I don't think Canada has import mark requirements, so yeah I'd think it was applied in China, though perhaps to the importers specifications ("We can sell these much easier if they said D!")
All conjecture though, it's a darn neat gun, I'd love to have them in the US. I wonder if they could be imported here via the 5 year proscribed country rule? I guess it would depend on whether the original gun was purpose built for military and was truly surplus or not.
The marking is definitely discussion worthy....but I think the other attributes of the gun are even more important. Especially a short gas system on a 20" barrel.
Other than they had excess hardware available in the short gas system config, can you think of a good reason to put a short system on a 20 1/2" gun? I'm coming up blank.
The gas pulse/pressure that drives the piston is created behind the bullet between the gasport and the muzzle. The longer the length between the gasport and muzzle, the stronger/longer the push. Shortening the barrel length at the muzzle in theory should also require the gasport moved rearward also.
On a 20" barrel?... No idea why they would do that. :-\
Quote from: XXXSKS on March 04, 2016, 12:39:42 AM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on March 03, 2016, 11:56:56 PM
Must be Canada
Yeah Canada. I have been setting on several picks of these rifles. Thanks to new member fenceline I finally have pics of a serial number. It has a prefix of 02. It is believed they were imported 02. A new section of the guide on Canadian AK mag rifles coming soon...
8)...........Joe
Interesting discovery. Definitely an odd duck. A 20 1/2" barrel with the post-'92 "M" style FSB, but with the short, SKS-S type gas system. No idea about the reasoning there. I'd bet the importers drew from the popularity of the "D" selling in the US market and had the Chinese mark their receivers as such. Just another wag, but it sounds plausible. I imagine the US imported D's would have eventually been marked SKS-D, if they hadn't been banned right after their introduction to the US market.
Looking forward to the new section of the guide,
Joe!
firstchoice
Those things?
Those are the two most common sks-d we have up in Canada. You guys are missing out.
The author is Canadian btw.
The 16 inch barrel up in Canada would be restricted class, which requires registration, a restricted licence, and is limited to a licenced range.
The standard barrel sks is non-restricted and is more free of legal constraints for the owner. The vast majority of our sks are like the above pictured one.
Rounded off bayonet attachment point, no stripper clip guide, ak mag release, regular length barrel.
Or above with spike bayo.
Or a blade bayo with standard carrier and standard sks mag release. These are the XZ guns.