My last day of vacation yesterday (hence I haven't been very active on the boards). Out for a bit of plinking on BLM land since the range was closed, then decided to stop by my favorite father-son gunshop on the way back. I saw an M1 Carbine in the consignment rack! He had two around Christmas last year and I decided I couldn't afford them...kicked myself ever since. Anyhow, I picked it up...and I never put it down until the paper work started. I just did a little internet checking to make sure the SN checked out. It's a mixmaster Rock-ola (their last SN block) receiver, undated Saginaw S.G. barrel (no import mark), Overland (OI) stock and handguard, etc. All late model features that I can see. It has a very good bore and crown. It also came with the sling attached (and well worn/creased at the barrel band sling swivel), the slip on style mag pouch, two spare mags and a spare oiler. I wasn't planning on dropping 8 bills yesterday :o so my accountant (me) was chiding me but my id was dancing with glee...the accountant lost :) It's my first M1 Carbine and I'm just tickled to have one that should be a good shooter. I'm curious about the rack and unit number. I'd like to think G Company in the 92nd ID but I have no idea ::) The lettering/numbering looks original, well worn, no linseed oil glaze over it, etc. I'm not very well read on M1 Carbines so I'm happy to have any information, advice, corrections to my mistakes etc. Thanks for looking!
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Very nice pick up! I am still learning all the details of the M1 Carbine myself, but this website helps a lot.
http://www.bavarianm1carbines.com/manufacturers.html (http://www.bavarianm1carbines.com/manufacturers.html)
Pick up some ammo, and enjoy shooting it. They are very fun shooters.
Brian
Like Brian said, these are VERY fun shooters. This is a beautiful specimen '32, absolutely fine looking. Don't know if you reload but I tried reloading for mine several years ago with Sierra 110 gr "plinkers" pushing it with H-110 powder. I found out the gas system is very sensitive to load changes, you have to exactly follow factory specs or you have feed/ejection problems. Wasn't worth the effort so I stuck with factory ammo.
You'll fall in head over heels with this one!
Thanks Brian and Danny. I do really like the Bavarian Carbines site. That's where I checked the SN block before pulling the trigger on the purchase.
I'm definitely looking forward to firing it. Any advice on ammo to avoid? I picked up a box of S&B since he had it in the shop at $0.40 per round. He also had the steel case Russian stuff. This isn't a case like the .30-06 for the Garand where there are 100's of other types of guns in that caliber and pressures vary significantly. Since the M1 is the primary user of 30 Carbine ammo, I would think the commercial ammo manufacturers would make it to the original mil spec...but I don't know for sure.
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on September 24, 2014, 01:54:01 PM
Thanks Brian and Danny. I do really like the Bavarian Carbines site. That's where I checked the SN block before pulling the trigger on the purchase.
I'm definitely looking forward to firing it. Any advice on ammo to avoid? I picked up a box of S&B since he had it in the shop at $0.40 per round. He also had the steel case Russian stuff. This isn't a case like the .30-06 for the Garand where there are 100's of other types of guns in that caliber and pressures vary significantly. Since the M1 is the primary user of 30 Carbine ammo, I would think the commercial ammo manufacturers would make it to the original mil spec...but I don't know for sure.
I have shot S&B ammo in my .45 auto and loved it, accurate, clean burning and no problems feeding or ejecting. Without looking it up I don't recall what the specs were on GI ammo, it seems like somewhere around 1900 fps. The best way, I'm sure you know, is to try a few different types and see how your Carbine digests it.
I'm fairly certain any commercial ammo will hover around in the neighborhood of what you need. Once you take it to the range, it will be hard to quit and go home!
Ruger makes a 30 carbine revolver--nice companion same round. If you shop around you can get one for less than you paid for the carbine!! You're gonna love it--take extra ammo with you---
Quote from: Crazyone on September 24, 2014, 04:22:45 PM
Ruger makes a 30 carbine revolver--nice companion same round. If you shop around you can get one for less than you paid for the carbine!! You're gonna love it--take extra ammo with you---
One of my cousins had a Ruger .30cal, very nice. When he pulled the trigger it sounded off, that rascal sounded louder than the Carbine it seemed!
Mixmaster or not, Rockola is highly sought after. You stole it. I'm not particularly fond of shooting the carbines, they feel toy-like and underpowered, but the cool mystique behind the manufacturer makes my Rockola the centerpiece of my American collection and will always have a spot on my wall. Whenever people approach me at the range wanting to see my carbine, I just nod & say yep, this little dandy originally played Bing Crosby tracks before it was an instrument of war.
Nice score Jon!
There are no caveats on ammo you need to know of. At least not to my knowledge. I've shot all sorts of junk thru all my carbines without issues.
Thanks Kevin! Glad to have confirmation that I can croon about that deal. (trivia: Bing Crosby is a native of Spokane, WA, which is about 140 miles NNE of my current city).
I think my wife and step-daughter will have fun shooting it too. Um, yeah, that's it, that's why I bought it ::) :))
I agree.... fantastic carbine! I particularly like the stock markings. 8)
Yeah buddy I'll bet they love it! The only centerfire rifles my ol' lady likes to shoot are the Mosin snipers, 03a4 and the m1 Carbines. It damn near made my head explode when she told me to never get rid of the m1 carbines. She's not that much of a gun nut so a statement like that caught me off guard.
She only likes the 03a4 because she thinks the sniper in Saving Private Ryan is sexy.
looks like someone needs to find an 8x Unertl for their 03. Spice it up.
http://youtu.be/XY61XmDJ-1w (http://youtu.be/XY61XmDJ-1w)
LC beat me to it ;)
9 shots without reloading :o hmmm
Coin don't mess with me. You know I can't watch Youtube if I want my internet to load more than one page per hour for the next month.
Did he really peel off 9 rounds?
Maybe it's the experimental 03 detachable Trench Mag! rofl2
Quote from: Blicero on September 24, 2014, 10:33:46 PM
Coin don't mess with me. You know I can't watch Youtube if I want my internet to load more than one page per hour for the next month.
Did he really peel off 9 rounds?
Yeah Blicero he did, but you see...thats a Springfield 1903A4(H). They have a larger cartridge capacity. The "H" stands for Hollywood model!
No, no, it's the Spring-enfield with a 10 round capacity ???
Nope... its the left-handed model. It aint right. chuckles1
Got out to the range today! Beautiful sunny day and 70F. A bit of wind but not too bad.
The M1 carbine is easy on the shoulder and I think it shoots well. These are just at 25 yds but I had a lot of fun with it.
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Last group at 25 yds
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Nice.... they definitely are fun, maybe too fun. :) Another rifle on my (must have) list. :(
I love the .30 cal carbine, my favorite of all the US military arms. Good shootin' Phosphorus!
Nice shootin' Jon! I was looking at an m2 for sale this weekend. Seller even let me put my grubby mitts all over it. Lend me $18k?
My Dad carried an M2 in the Korean War. He said it was definitely a spray and pray gun on full auto!
18K? I couldn't afford a hand guard off one of those!
I understand any variant of the carbine was not terribly popular with our guys. If I can dream here for a second...the only American 'surp on the wishlist is a Johnson semi. Oooh boy would I do unspeakable things to land one of those.
Quote from: Blicero on October 12, 2014, 11:40:40 PM
I understand any variant of the carbine was not terribly popular with our guys. If I can dream here for a second...the only American 'surp on the wishlist is a Johnson semi. Oooh boy would I do unspeakable things to land one of those.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=445002960
Here start bidding. :o
18K, oh hey Kevin, my printer's broken or I'd happily front you the money in crisp $200 bills. I don't have to worry about owning one in WA since we can't have full autos but I wouldn't mind fondling one...maybe a little baby oil...
The M1 hardly kicks but I'm sure it would be noticeable in the M2 at 15 rounds per second :o :))
A Johnson! Kinda funny looking but cool. Fortunately I still have the reasonably priced M1917 on my American milsurp list so I don't have to consider that kind of dough.
Danged good lookin specimen and a good job on the stock repairs. But it's waaaaay above my pay grade.
Quote from: Blicero on September 24, 2014, 08:47:30 PM
the cool mystique behind the manufacturer makes my Rockola the centerpiece of my American collection and will always have a spot on my wall
I'm pretty late to the party here but yeah, I want one of these and that's exactly where it's at for me. It's on my Phase 2 list of rifles of WW2 that it's highly debatable whether I will ever actually own any of. Along with an International Harvester (of lives) Garand, and those of other nationalities.
Very nice score, I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Thanks for sharing clap1
That's a beauty! I don't know much about those other than the prices are outrageous so it seems what you paid for that was a steal. Congrats!
I've always wanted a M1 carbine. Don't know why, I've never even shot one. They just have a cool factor I can't get past even though they are small and fire what I've heard others describe as an under powered round. They just feel right when you hold them.
I'm just glad to have a nice shooter. They are fun. A handy lightweight little rifle, and that over-sized pistol round they shoot is easy on the shoulder. If you're patient, once in a while you'll see an Inland near $650-700 (not likely on GB), but that's about as low as I've seen in the last year. Still not cheap but not crazy expensive. I don't see myself ever turning into a serious collector of these, given the prices for "correct" versions. However, it does make a good companion to my WWII American rifle collection alongside the Garands and the 03-A3, and I'm very glad to have one.
Short story about M1C's. I purchased a Just Right Carbine for Sharon several years ago. She wanted something with "less recoil" than a SKS. She also had problems with racking the slide. The SKS spring was too stiff for her busted up arm. The JRC was also to stiff. I found a M1C at a gun show for a killer deal. I bring it home, she falls in lust for it, I haven't seen it since. They are the sweetest little short range rifles you will ever own. You have "got to get me one of these", to coin Will Smith in Independence Day, the movie. Ammo is around .50 a round and 30 round mags are 30ish. Worth every dime. It is light, little recoil, easy to carry and spits a lot of lead. A 10-12 year old could safely handle this weapon with proper training.
Marcus