Ok guys, here is one of the two.
Both are A-block 1987 serials and are about 120 apart in serials.
PW Arms importer like all the other recent yugos.
100% bore
100% stamped matching
100% white paint in GL ladder
100% bluing
100% stock condition.
There is no hole in the butt for the cleaning kit, the rifle came with a pull-rope, and the sling is def not a regular yugo sling. There is some funky plastic/rubber plug in the front sight and over the rear sight. The log book shows it was cosmoed in 2004.
These are very much 'mint' in all aspects. thumb1
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thumb1 drool2
Very nice L-C!
So is there a hole in the stock for a cleaning rod?
Quote from: CARBINE on September 23, 2015, 08:31:16 PM
So is there a hole in the stock for a cleaning rod?
The stock IS cut for the rod to pass....
It's a nice rifle, I just still can't get excited over it for some reason.
Have you been able to determine what the stock finish is?
:-X
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on September 23, 2015, 09:35:34 PM
:-X
Bah, he's just a Chinese snob LC! chuckles1
I like it. I don't like the price tag, but the rifle itself is smart looking. I'd have issues buying a rifle that I dared not shoot. First shot would likely strip a gouge of chrome off of some moving part and that'd be all she wrote as far as minty-ness. cry1
Very nice one though, certainly a head turner with all the unusualness to it.
Ooh, nice 8) thumb1
I'm excited banana time
That wood looks very nice. Just looks like a smoother deeper finish (an maybe finer grain) on the elm than the typical Yugo.
Worth every penny and now that they're sold out it's probably already worth a few more.
No cleaning rod?? I would want a refund!!! How are you supposed to clean it??
Nice, certainly minty. Why the EP'd numbers on the inside of the trigger guard?
Just received mine. Wow. About the prettiest thing I've ever seen. Glad I went through with it. Mine is a B, so 1988. EDIT: Does have EP like yours after looking at it again.
Quote from: Carl in CT on September 24, 2015, 10:58:18 AM
Nice, certainly minty. Why the EP'd numbers on the inside of the trigger guard?
No idea... The stamped numbers clearly match. My guess is they are some sort of tracking number while going through the HG conversion.
I've seen some (not all though) of those eps numbers match the stamped number on the barrel lug. Anyone planning on taking the stock off theirs for a looksee? If so vgeck that barrel lug number and see if it matches the EPs.
Def a tracking number though.
Quote from: running-man on September 24, 2015, 09:35:17 PM
I've seen some (not all though) of those eps numbers match the stamped number on the barrel lug. Anyone planning on taking the stock off theirs for a looksee? If so vgeck that barrel lug number and see if it matches the EPs.
Def a tracking number though.
Tracking number makes sense. Like LC said, the stamped numbers clearly matched so these EP'd numbers would not be some forced match situation.
Very Nice LC ;) Thats one to be proud of for sure. Nice display of pics also thumb1 Just for kicks are you going to have a cleaning rod chromed for it ?
Welp... They didn't use cleaning rods with these guns in Slovenia, but since there were blued nos rods floating around loose in the crates, I'll put two of those on thar. :)
Note... These are my fathers until I can buy one later from him.
Quote from: Jagrmaister on September 24, 2015, 11:45:30 AM
Just received mine. Wow. About the prettiest thing I've ever seen. Glad I went through with it. Mine is a B, so 1988. EDIT: Does have EP like yours after looking at it again.
Are you going to post some pics? :)
Okay.. got mine on Saturday! Apart from the smallest ding near the trigger guard (I assume from the crate), it's every bit as nice as I expected.
The serial begins with U... can you guys tell me what year that is?
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Very nice!
It was originally made in 1984... Look at the log book to see when It was turned into an HG.
Nice...... drool2
Dang, that's gorgeous bartski! thumb1
It has a really fine grain wood. I guess that led to the earlier mistaken reports around the internet that they were painted.
Can someone PLEASE take the butt off of one of these HG rifles and compare it side/side with a standard 59/66? We need to determine if these are just modified standard stocks or if Slovenia made their own like several other nations. Pics are a must.
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on September 27, 2015, 04:38:20 PM
Dang, that's gorgeous bartski! thumb1
It has a really fine grain wood. I guess that led to the earlier mistaken reports around the internet that they were painted.
Yeah, it's definitely wood... Just really nice wood! The finish is similar to a modern off the shelf rifle, like a 10/22, for example.
Loose Cannon,
I've looked closely at the butt pad, as far as I can tell it seems to be permanently affixed. I'm not brave enough to get too rough with it!
Its a padded 'whiteline' butt. If you look close where the screws are normally, you will see the rubber is punctured. When screwed on, the rubber simply swallowes the head of the screw. Just stick a screw driver into the rubber/hole and take out the screws.
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on September 27, 2015, 05:40:48 PM
Its a padded 'whiteline' butt. If you look close where the screws are normally, you will see the rubber is punctured. When screwed on, the rubber simply swallowes the head of the screw. Just stick a screw driver into the rubber/hole and take out the screws.
I gave it a shot. Loosened the screws, tapped the pad a few times, and got nothing. It's either glued too, or I'm too much of a wuss to get it off. It'll have to be another guy!
Laff.. Thanks for trying. We really need to determine if these are Slovenian mad stocks.
Are you able to do some side/side of the action inleting compared to a standard 59/66 stock?
Quote from: bartski on September 27, 2015, 09:01:14 PM
I gave it a shot. Loosened the screws, tapped the pad a few times, and got nothing. It's either glued too, or I'm too much of a wuss to get it off. It'll have to be another guy!
Heh, you're braver than I would have been! thumb1
If anyone does take the receiver out of the stock, please be sure to get a picture of the barrel lug and any numerals & stampings on it please. I'm assuming these are std. 59/66 barrels and not chrome lined replacements?
Quote from: running-man on September 27, 2015, 10:18:14 PM
Quote from: bartski on September 27, 2015, 09:01:14 PM
I gave it a shot. Loosened the screws, tapped the pad a few times, and got nothing. It's either glued too, or I'm too much of a wuss to get it off. It'll have to be another guy!
Heh, you're braver than I would have been! thumb1
If anyone does take the receiver out of the stock, please be sure to get a picture of the barrel lug and any numerals & stampings on it please. I'm assuming these are std. 59/66 barrels and not chrome lined replacements?
I'll probably try to field strip it tomorrow or Wednesday to look at stamps and get some more cosmo out... I'll post pics, of course.
Picked up my 28 year old rifle yesterday. This old Protocol M59/66A1 doesn't look too bad :o
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RIGHT
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SN
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AN on BARREL SHANK
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WOOD GRAIN
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Sure dont look like elm to me.
Looks fantastic... Great score!
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on September 29, 2015, 11:58:35 AM
Sure dont look like elm to me.
Looks fantastic... Great score!
Thanks!
Google fine grain beech. I'm no wood expert but that looks like a plausible candidate.
Awesome P32, thanks for sharing. Is the 23876 that is EP'd on the trigger EP'd on several other parts also?
So did you really hang it from the charging handle through a hole in your fence in a couple of those pictures? :o If I tried that it would have dropped to the ground for sure.
Quote from: bbush44 on September 29, 2015, 12:25:05 PM
Awesome P32, thanks for sharing. Is the 23876 that is EP'd on the trigger EP'd on several other parts also?
That's the only place I've seen it but I have not broken down this SKS yet. I'm reluctant to scratch the bluing on the screws or receiver cover rofl but eventually I'll do it...very carefully. The one that LC shows on his slightly higher SN A series has the same first three digits (238##). Subtraction of the SNs (difference = 79) vs. subtraction of these "assembly" numbers (difference = 16) doesn't yield the same gap. I hypothesize that they hand-selected some at Zastava for conversion to Protocol rifles, not a single block, and that the electro-penciled numbers correspond to those protocol rifles. Big leap on the basis of two examples, and not having torn either one down yet. Also, the large number, 23876, means either my hypothesis is plain wrong, or the first two or three digits have another meaning other than a simple serialization (because I doubt that 24000 of these were made). We'll see as we get deeper into the internals, and as we have more examples to compare. The booklet doesn't say anything about manufacture or conversion at any other facility, it only mentions CZ (Crvena Zastava, Red Flag), so I suspect these Protokolarna rifles were converted at Zastava. Again, negative evidence (no other manufacturer listed) doesn't prove this, just a working hypothesis.
Quote from: bbush44 on September 29, 2015, 12:25:05 PM
So did you really hang it from the charging handle through a hole in your fence in a couple of those pictures? :o If I tried that it would have dropped to the ground for sure.
Yeah, I thought 2 or 3 times about actually doing that, but I tested the hold of the knot hole on the charging handle and found it to be secure, so I went with it :o chuckles1
Of the very few Slovenian HG pictures I have seen they all appear to have the 23### EP'd on them.
Yours - Serial # A-709840, EP'd # 23876
LC's - Serial #A-709919 , EP'd # 23892
Off sksboards - Serial # A- 709843, EP'd # 23916
Bartski - Serial # U-682826, EP'd ???
Just curious what the reason is for these "assembly" numbers?
Hmm, my thoughts above about where they were converted are clearly an over-simplification. As LC just reminded me of all of the changes in countries that were occurring in the early 90s... think1
Quote from: bbush44 on September 29, 2015, 02:31:16 PM
Of the very few Slovenian HG pictures I have seen they all appear to have the 23### EP'd on them.
Yours - Serial # A-709840, EP'd # 23876
LC's - Serial #A-709919 , EP'd # 23892
Off sksboards - Serial # A- 709843, EP'd # 23916
Bartski - Serial # U-682826, EP'd ???
Just curious what the reason is for these "assembly" numbers?
Thanks for compiling the numbers. The EP'd numbers have some story to tell...just not sure what yet.
Quote from: bbush44 on September 29, 2015, 02:31:16 PM
Of the very few Slovenian HG pictures I have seen they all appear to have the 23### EP'd on them.
Yours - Serial # A-709840, EP'd # 23876
LC's - Serial #A-709919 , EP'd # 23892
Off sksboards - Serial # A- 709843, EP'd # 23916
Bartski - Serial # U-682826, EP'd 96588
Just curious what the reason is for these "assembly" numbers?
I only see the EP'd number on the trigger guard, so far.
Look under the cover and on the right side of internal mag when outer is swung down.
Yup, it's there... same number. I see evidence of more EP on the barrel where it meets the receiver, when I get the stock off, I'll see what it is.
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on September 29, 2015, 02:42:51 PM
Look under the cover and on the right side of internal mag when outer is swung down.
Quote from: bartski on September 29, 2015, 02:40:43 PM
Bartski - Serial # U-682826, EP'd 96588
I only see the EP'd number on the trigger guard, so far.
Thanks Bartski yours kind of debunks my original thinking since yours does not start with a 23XXX
Iirc, these EP numbers are found on the under side of the cover, mag, and trigger on brand new unissued yugos. Explains why the mag ep is under the chrome. Pretty sure these are zastava tracking/control numbers and not done in Slovenia.
I personally believe these numbers were used for keeping the components together during the assembly/fitment process PRIOR to being serialized.
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on September 29, 2015, 03:14:57 PM
Iirc, these EP numbers are found on the under side of the cover, mag, and trigger on brand new unissued yugos. Explains why the mag ep is under the chrome. Pretty sure these are zastava tracking/control numbers and not done in Slovenia.
I'd agree. I've got a few M88 A s that were made at Zastava in 2013. That when taken apart have matching EP'd #'s on all major parts, that can't be seen when gun is together and do not match the official sn#.
EP numbers (all 23876) on mine: trigger guard, underside of receiver cover, bolt, gas tube, barrel shank, rear sight slider.
Stamped or stenciled SNs on all of those parts also, except the slider and barrel.
EP number and SN are both covered by chrome on the gas tube.
All sound like parts requiring fitment.
Anyone gotten a look at the stamped barrel number off one of these yet?
Quote from: running-man on September 29, 2015, 09:13:07 PM
Anyone gotten a look at the stamped barrel number off one of these yet?
Nope. dead2
Quote from: running-man on September 29, 2015, 09:13:07 PM
Anyone gotten a look at the stamped barrel number off one of these yet?
I took mine apart and added more pictures, including barrel numbers, to my original picture post.
Yup... Matches the barrel lug number. clap1
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Whats this? Something in the bayo groove?
The pics you added leave me little doubt the wood is Beech. thumb1
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Awesome, that's what i was looking for. Seems like this was common practice for this entire PW arms import batch. I wonder how common it was for prior imports...
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on September 29, 2015, 10:21:25 PM
Whats this? Something in the bayo groove?
The pics you added leave me little doubt the wood is Beech. thumb1
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Yup, a little silicone rubber bumper plugged through from the inside of the stock. Keeps the bayonet from damaging the wood finish or rattling as they twirl it about.
Very interesting!
Took these yesterday. It was overcast and rainy all day. These were taken on the porch out of the rain. Best I could do. violin1
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This is the worst of the imperfections on the stock. On the right side near the grip. The pic makes it look worse than I think it is. Is what it is.
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This rifle definitely had a sling on it at one point telling by some light wear on the front sling loop. No other real wear on the metal.
Overall I'm happy to have it. :)
I finally got 'hands on' the two my father bought. I went to install one of the brand new cleaning rods that was left in the bottom of the crates they came in, and the rod would not slide past the 'bayo bushing' thats been installed in the groove. :-\
Wouldn't sticking a rod into an Honorable Girl insinuate that she is a dirty girl?
You might just have to ram it home, it's her first time. dance2
Easy there stud... There is an inner delrin type bayo stopper it hits. Obviously NOT meant to have a cleaning rod.
They would need to shoot it to justify it having a cleaning rod, no shooting = no cleaning, just fluff and buff.. Cleaning rods are for those who actually stand on the front lines. thumb1
rofl rofl
Oh... Like your Johnson. thumb1
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on October 31, 2015, 08:04:02 AM
Oh... Like your Johnson. thumb1
Why ya haten? Apples to oranges... most U.S. weapons, the cleaning rod was separate.
You won't shoot it, what makes you think they would shoot it? It ain't like they give 2 squats and 4 squirts about collectability, why would they, it's simply a tool to do that job, they are just following orders handed down from their higher ranking officials. fineprint whip))
We see photos of actual troops using and firing a regular M59/66 from all over the world, find a picture of an honor guard dress soldier with an honor guard rifle hunting 2 legged prey in the field, actually working to preserve the communist way of life, laying in the mud, even a shot in the pouring rain or blinding snow, maybe hunting paper during training qualifications or shoving a grenade on it. In it's prior life before selection, yes, it was used, abused and fired, after it was converted, probably not so much, it was regulated to light duty. While it may fire and I'm sure there is a 100% chance it would, the odds it was fired after it transformation into this variant, slim to none.
Quotethe odds it was fired after it transformation into this variant, slim to none.
Sound just like 95% of all surplus guns.... And especially those French things.
ROFLMFAO
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on October 31, 2015, 12:49:06 PM
Quotethe odds it was fired after it transformation into this variant, slim to none.
Sound just like 95% of all surplus guns.... And especially those French things.
ROFLMFAO
Deflection ::) , apples to oranges, yet again thumb1 Your talking out your azz, cause you have no clue and your jelli bro :) ...ya hate, cause you ain't got one to speak about it, cause them French things shoot wonderfully thumb1
Then ante up, put thy money where thy mouth is and SHOOT IT... fart1
rofl
Says the guy that just 'has' to come back to this thread to flame.
Like omg... I'm like so jelly