The Polish, East German, Albanian and NVA and even the 49 Russian Tula pale in comparison to the Bangladesh SKS . Made with Chinese tooling and spares in the early 70s in fairly large numbers ( compared to Albania) but not exported in any significant numbers . It has Stampings & markings and slight variations on the SKS theme giving it enough gravitas to reign as a SKS collectors PRIZED PIECE if it could ever be obtained .
Do you have any pictures or documentation concerning such a variant? This would definitely be a fascinating item to document. Since I've never even heard a rumor of this variant before, well, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". I've also never heard of a Polish SKS. think1
Regardless, I'd still give the all-time holy grail position in my book to a papered North Korean SKS, since it would be a Vietnam bring-back, comes from a completely closed country with whom we have never signed a peace accord, etc.
Its been seen in Pictures & Video used by Bangladeshi Troops & Law Enforcement over years and is referenced in the famous Steve Kehaya/Joe Poyer book " The SKS Carbine" (3rd Revised and Expanded Edition)
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on May 11, 2015, 12:55:20 PM
Do you have any pictures or documentation concerning such a variant? This would definitely be a fascinating item to document. Since I've never even heard a rumor of this variant before, well, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". I've also never heard of a Polish SKS. think1
Regardless, I'd still give the all-time holy grail position in my book to a papered North Korean SKS, since it would be a Vietnam bring-back, comes from a completely closed country with whom we have never signed a peace accord, etc.
I thought the availability of Polish Laminate Stocks for SKS back in the 2000 to 2006 timeframe gave legitimacy to the concept of Polish SKS variants ??? Sorry if the jury is still out on those , but the Stocks sure looked nice as did the pics of the Polish troops with Parade style SKS rifles ...
Quote from: Gator Monroe on May 11, 2015, 01:02:32 PM
Its been seen in Pictures & Video used by Bangladeshi Troops & Law Enforcement over years and is referenced in the famous Steve Kehaya/Joe Poyer book " The SKS Carbine" (3rd Revised and Expanded Edition)
Those are chinese sks rifles that were sent as aid. Any reference you read about Bang making the t56 etc is referring to the t56 AK the chinese set them up to make.
A Polish is a Russian dropped in a Polish made stock... nothing more.
While I have respect for Kehaya & Poyer, I think they are flat out wrong with certain things that they have written. An example that comes to mind is their claim that Russian SKS S/Ns follow a set prefix pattern based on month/year. The various Russian SKS surveys that have been conducted in the past show this to not have been the case at all.
There has been conjecture about Bangladeshi SKSs, Hungarian variants, Bulgarian, Polish, you name it. As of right now, we have hard proof of Russian, Chinese, Albanian, Yugoslavian, Romanian, East German, North Korean, and maybe an extremely small North Vietnamese production run (or a Chinese run with an NVA acceptance stamp). While there are Polish parade stocks in this country, nobody's ever seen an actual Polish SKS here. (We've seen Polish property marks on Russian SKSs here however.) It's highly unlikely that one of the first countries to fall during the end of the cold war would have exported their domestically produced Mosin Nagants but would not have exported their domestically produced SKSs. Not saying it's impossible (just look at the Albanian SKS, they popped up and surprised everyone), just that there needs to be some kind of hard proof before I would even consider traveling down that rabbit-hole.
Just curious on what page of " The SKS Carbine" by Kehaya & Poyer this info is on I have the 5th version and don't remember reading about that.
Quote from: CARBINE on May 11, 2015, 02:22:21 PM
Just curious on what page of " The SKS Carbine" by Kehaya & Poyer this info is on I have the 5th version and don't remember reading about that.
My 4th edition doesn't mention "Bangladesh" either as I recall.. Any photos I've seen of Bangladesh honor guard or border patrol were either, Yugoslavian M59-66s or a later Chinese variant with spike bayonets.
But like RM said
QuoteI think they are flat out wrong with certain things that they have written.
Another is the use of teak ::) on Yugoslavian rifles, a whole thread is posted on that subject.
From what I've read, the Polish guns were handpicked out of the Russian supplies and then placed into Polish stocks. There were around 8,000 and were/are for ceremonial purposes. Never heard anything of Bangladeshi's though.
So I guess the "DB" = Bangladesh and "DP" = Pakistan rumors are BS then?
Not enough data.... Its neither proven nor debunked.
Quote from: M26PERSHING on July 08, 2015, 01:47:21 PM
So I guess the "DB" = Bangladesh and "DP" = Pakistan rumors are BS then?
That seems unlikely at first glance unless the Chinese translated the names of Pakistan and Bangladesh, where they speak Urdu and Bengali respectively, into English and then marked them with those initials for export to those countries. Bangladesh still starts with a B in Bengali but Pakistan starts with an Arabic-style letter in Urdu.
And don't forget the claim that 'DB = Delivery Burma'. Why not 'Delivery Bolivia' or 'Delivery Burundi'.
I've never seen one shred of data to say that any of these are true. For that reason, I'm pretty skeptical about the whole thing.
Itw mainly because both pak and bang were heavily aided it the correct timeframe. Not many nations are...
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