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Offline maxwelltl

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Re: /406\b Info and Data Collection
« Reply #80 on: July 28, 2015, 07:37:23 PM »
Here is my contribution to the thread.  I understand the issues better now with the 406b arsenal stamp.  I'll refrain from using that terminology in the future. Perhaps this gun is not a pre-ban gun as I first thought.  That's OK, I like the looks and am glad I purchased it.


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Re: /406\b Info and Data Collection
« Reply #81 on: July 28, 2015, 09:08:52 PM »
You use whatever terminology you're comfortable with Tom.  I'm certainly not out to bash people for it in casual conversation. At the same time, it is very useful to have everyone on the same page when it comes to specific arsenal stamps. It makes no sense for the admin running this board to dictate 'this stamp is XYZ' when there is no evidence to corroborate it and there are questions and outright disagreements regarding what the characters say or how they are ordered. If there is hard data (like for the /256\'s), then we can call it and feel comfortable that there is a valid reason for that decision. /?5\ /0306\ or /0406\ is your call.  It may get tiring hearing people ask for photos to understand what it is you're designating a /0306\ though.

You have a great looking carbine there. It fits well with the month-year scheme as well. As for preban vs post, do you live in a state where it actually matters?  Federally, that designator died with the sunset of the AWB and makes no difference anymore. I always assumed that those that were concerned with the pre/post designator at the state level required documented proof (orig sales receipt with legible date, etc.) otherwise the gun was assumed to be post.
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Re: /406\b Info and Data Collection
« Reply #82 on: August 09, 2015, 08:56:17 AM »
Latest /?5\ S/N list:

1-110016x

1-140044x
2-140525x
2-14074xx
2-140768x

1-150088x
4-150645x
6-151317x
8-151712x
9-151941x
9-151977x
9-151861x
9-151941x
11-152753x
12-15301xx
12-153347x

2-160330x
3-160495x
6-161072x
6-161196x
6-161261x
6-161335x
3-170694x
6-171543x
8-171891x

18-0350x (probably mis-stamped & should be a 1-180350x)
2-180509x
2-180535x
3-18077xx
3-180612x
3-180704x
5-181173x
5-181277x
6-181399x
9-182358x
10-182834x
10-183093x
11-183155x
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Re: /406\b Info and Data Collection
« Reply #83 on: February 19, 2016, 10:55:32 PM »
Haven't updated this one in a while.  A post on Gunboards reminded me about it though:

Latest /?5\ S/N list:

1-110016x

1-140044x
2-140525x
2-14074xx
2-140768x

1-150088x
4-150645x
6-151317x
6-151361x
6-151548x
8-151712x
9-151837x
9-151861x
9-151941x
9-151966x
9-151977x
11-152753x
12-15301xx
12-153347x

2-160330x
3-160488x
3-160495x
3-160747x
6-161072x
6-161196x
6-161261x
6-161335x
6-161351x
6-161666x

3-170694x
6-171525x
6-171543x
8-171891x

18-0350x (probably mis-stamped & should be a 1-180350x)
2-180509x
2-180535x
2-180559x
3-180612x
3-180704x
3-18077xx
3-180612x
3-180704x
3-180761x
5-181173x
5-181260x
5-181266x
5-181277x
6-181399x
6-181563x
6-181658x
9-182358x
9-182521x
10-182666x
10-182834x
10-183093x
11-183155x
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Re: /406\b Info and Data Collection
« Reply #84 on: April 03, 2016, 12:21:27 AM »
What do you guys think of this one?  I found it here while sorting the March GB auctions. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=547315501

/?5\ gun with a 21 S/N prefix?  Maybe it's not a /?5\ but one of the other /?X\ marks simply missing the numeral within the triangle?  If it is a /?5\, I wonder why they changed prefix styles between years 18 and 21?  It's clearly a pinned barrel, which matches what the last 18 series were out of /?5\.


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Re: /406\b Info and Data Collection
« Reply #85 on: April 03, 2016, 08:10:24 AM »
Looks like they dropped the prefix to me.  Or relocated it to the bottom.
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Re: /406\b Info and Data Collection
« Reply #86 on: April 03, 2016, 11:06:59 AM »
Quote from: running-man on April 03, 2016, 12:21:27 AM
What do you guys think of this one?  I found it here while sorting the March GB auctions. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=547315501

/?5\ gun with a 21 S/N prefix?  Maybe it's not a /?5\ but one of the other /?X\ marks simply missing the numeral within the triangle?  If it is a /?5\, I wonder why they changed prefix styles between years 18 and 21?  It's clearly a pinned barrel, which matches what the last 18 series were out of /?5\.





Wow....that's an odd one. The stamp DOES sure look like it. But nothing else looks like an 0406b gun. The serial is later than any others we've seen. The stamp is really sloppy; these guns usually have some of the most even, crisp arsenal stampings. It has the three Chinese characters and no other ones do. And it's missing the month identifier.

Now all of those things could simply be attributed to a later production run started up after that arsenal stopped making the SKS after 73. But it would be the first we've seen.
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Re: /406\b Info and Data Collection
« Reply #87 on: April 03, 2016, 12:24:00 PM »
I hadn't noticed the Chinese characters.  Good catch PS!  thumb1
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Re: /406\b Info and Data Collection
« Reply #88 on: April 20, 2018, 04:46:53 AM »
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Re: /406\b Info and Data Collection
« Reply #89 on: April 20, 2018, 01:19:57 PM »
Nice, thanks!!

450€ is around $550 at today's exchange rates.  A bit of a pricey type 56 by American standards, but not off the chart for certain.
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Re: /406\b Info and Data Collection
« Reply #90 on: April 20, 2018, 01:31:38 PM »
In Italy SKS usually are about euro 300 for Chinese  and euro 350
For Russia.
In Germany about euro 600-650 ( www.egun.de
It’s look like gunsbroker.com )
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Re: /406\b Info and Data Collection
« Reply #91 on: January 22, 2020, 04:43:45 PM »
Quote from: Power Surge on September 21, 2014, 09:30:18 PM
Data collection post

1-11001XX (no suffix) Importer: Labanu Inc. Short lug, "D" rear sight mark.
2-1603208 (no suffix) (my gun) Importer: CSI ONT CA. Sort lug, stamped trigger, "D" rear sight mark.
2-18053XX  G suffix AFTER stamp. Importer unknown.
3-18061XX  G suffix AFTER stamp. Importer unknown.
Both above guns posted by same person.
3-1806XXX  G suffix AFTER stamp. Importer: Poly USA, pinned barrel, stamped trigger.
3-17069XX  F suffix AFTER stamp. Importer: Poly USA, "D" rear sight mark
5-17154XX (no suffix) -this gun is interesting...it's looks like it's been well battle used, and has no importer mark.
6-17152XX, Poly USA, with the letter stamp "E" after the arsenal mark
6-18156XX (has a C BEFORE the 6 prefix) no other info
8-1517XXX (suffix and importer unknown, no pics posted). Short lug, "D" rear sight mark, ground off bayo lug.
9-1519777 L  (my gun) Importer: Poly USA. Short lug barrel, "D" rear sight mark, ground off bayo lug.
11-15XXXX (has weird symbol suffix) Importer unknown, Short lug, "D" rear sight mark.
? - 1514588 L (can't see prefix, no other pics)
10-18283XX (no suffix) - another one that looks like it's been well battle used, and has no importer mark. Pinned barrel, stamped trigger, "3" rear sight mark.
6-1514397 A Importer P.T.K. INT'L ATL. GA. - "D" rear sight mark
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Re: /406\b Info and Data Collection
« Reply #92 on: January 29, 2020, 12:41:37 PM »
Quote from: forneyl5 on January 22, 2020, 04:43:45 PM
Quote from: Power Surge on September 21, 2014, 09:30:18 PM
Data collection post

1-11001XX (no suffix) Importer: Labanu Inc. Short lug, "D" rear sight mark.
2-1603208 (no suffix) (my gun) Importer: CSI ONT CA. Sort lug, stamped trigger, "D" rear sight mark.
2-18053XX  G suffix AFTER stamp. Importer unknown.
3-18061XX  G suffix AFTER stamp. Importer unknown.
Both above guns posted by same person.
3-1806XXX  G suffix AFTER stamp. Importer: Poly USA, pinned barrel, stamped trigger.
3-17069XX  F suffix AFTER stamp. Importer: Poly USA, "D" rear sight mark
5-17154XX (no suffix) -this gun is interesting...it's looks like it's been well battle used, and has no importer mark.
6-17152XX, Poly USA, with the letter stamp "E" after the arsenal mark
6-18156XX (has a C BEFORE the 6 prefix) no other info
8-1517XXX (suffix and importer unknown, no pics posted). Short lug, "D" rear sight mark, ground off bayo lug.
9-1519777 L  (my gun) Importer: Poly USA. Short lug barrel, "D" rear sight mark, ground off bayo lug.
11-15XXXX (has weird symbol suffix) Importer unknown, Short lug, "D" rear sight mark.
? - 1514588 L (can't see prefix, no other pics)
10-18283XX (no suffix) - another one that looks like it's been well battle used, and has no importer mark. Pinned barrel, stamped trigger, "3" rear sight mark.
6-1514397 A Suffix Importer P.T.K. INT'L ATL. GA. - "D" rear sight mark,mint cond.How do we date these?
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Re: /406\b Info and Data Collection
« Reply #93 on: January 29, 2020, 01:45:21 PM »
Quote from: forneyl5 on January 29, 2020, 12:41:37 PM
6-1514397 A Suffix Importer P.T.K. INT'L ATL. GA. - "D" rear sight mark,mint cond.How do we date these?

6-1514397

 Month 6 (June), Year 15 (1970) thumb1

Number 14397 made at factory /?5\ that year.
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Re: /406\b Info and Data Collection
« Reply #94 on: January 30, 2020, 12:00:10 PM »
RM, here is my /0406\b(ee), /?14\, /?5\ for your data base.
It's an all matching NORINCO imported by COMPASSECO BARDSTOWN, KY.  Seems to follow along with your dating method since it is a short screwed year 14.  Also, just to add my two cents into the fray, I can see the "4" if I look hard, but either "6006" or "0606"is what I see.  Like any work of art, it's in the eyes of the beholder  prank1.  I really can't see a "3" or a "5", though nea1.












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Re: /406\b Info and Data Collection
« Reply #95 on: January 30, 2020, 01:36:15 PM »
Nice one!  thumb1

I doubt the question will ever be answered, not that it particularly matters that much.  For our purposes, /?5\ is much easier to deal with. clap1
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