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SKS Carbines => Altered SKS Rifles => 922r Compliance => Topic started by: Justin Hell on October 16, 2014, 07:17:31 PM
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My first Chinese SKS came in a Combat Exchange folder, with a wood hand guard and a 30 round USA mag. The spike bayonet was either in the box or attached, I cannot remember but it did come with it....as did the original mag.
I have had it for well over fifteen years, and in that time the stock broke, as did the hand guard. It has been bubba's project platform ever since...did a mod to the bayonet groove to accept a blade or a spike for another incarnation that had plenty of USA parts to make 922r a non issue.
If I were to install a Yugo stock, the Yugo blade, a cheese grater, and the USA mag would this trigger 922r as it is as close to original military configuration as can be with parts imported from two different countries and the three parts of the mag that count being USA made?
I could and may reinstall the factory mag if that makes a difference. From what I understand of the law (and who REALLY understands it?) replacement of broken parts should not be an issue, and the 'evil features' have been a non issue since the expiration of the AWB correct?
I have read and reread things posted online regarding it, and it is thoroughly confusing.
I like to think that since it wouldn't be a folder anymore...thats one less questionable thing, the blade is a safer bayonet than a spike with regard to damage done, the only thing that seems potentially eyebrow raising would be the detachable mag.
Does the fact that all Yugos are considered C&R regardless of age make any difference when using Yugo parts to replace Chinese parts?
Considering that over the last couple of years tons of SKS's have been imported with bayonets attached using a mish mash of Russian, Chinese and Albanian replacement stocks, this build seems to be importable, the mag is the main issue from what I can tell.
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I just skimmed your post, but let me say this... If it was my sks, I wouldn't loose sleep over 922r. Ever. I know some people like to get bent out of shape on this issue but I have yet to see any hard evidence.. Ever.. That it has been a chargeable offense. but that's just me and some might disagree. Just throwing that out there.
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While I have no good reason to avoid 922r, it's unconstitutional.
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After being suspended at some other place over getting pissy with an admin over comments made about a home made hand guard, I am just watching out for all of us here....testing the waters so to speak. I think the law is silly, and unenforceable at best. I was gonna post photos of how awesome this hypothetical build is...but deleted the post before showing it...I don't want to cause any trouble or ruffle any feathers.
Thanks guys...
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It's no trouble, it's a valid question. Unfortunately, each and every 922(r) case is usually something that needs a determination by ATF because they often choose to selectively enforce laws. I agree with Adam above, 922(r) isn't something they go after you for, it's something they add on when they find an illegally modified weapon at a drug bust, or when busting a cockfighting ring.
Here's my personal interpretation of 922(r) in your situation, take it with a grain of salt:
922(r) basically says you can't manufacture, from imported parts, any weapon which you couldn't otherwise legally import. Current law states that it is illegal to import any semi-auto, non-sporting (i.e. military surplus) firearm that is not a C&R. The recent Sino-banians got in because, and only because, they got a C&R classification. When you modify these types of firearms, you can lose C&R status, basically invoking 922(r).
Things you can change w/o invalidating the C&R status:
- Swapping to another wooden stock of the same type (i.e. not a thumbhole or Monte Carlo)
- Replacing a damaged or mismatching serialized part with a replacement part identical in form & function. (10 round box mag with another 10 round box mag)
- Adding a spring loaded firing pin.
- Putting on or taking off the bayonet to shoot, store, etc.
- Adding a scope, using different sights, slings, etc. (The way I understand it, these are temporary shooting aids that can be easily removed)
The things that alter the original military configuration & cause the firearm to not be considered a C&R:
- Adding a composite stock, or a wooden stock in a thumbhole or Monte Carlo configuration.
- Adding a composite or metal handguard.
- Adding a detachable magazine.
- Cutting the barrel down to 16.5".
- Permanently modifyting the bolt carrier for LH operation.
In your case the cheese grater and detachable mag would revoke C&R status (assuming it had C&R status to begin with) and invoke 922(r) and you'd have to swap out two additional parts (assuming the mag and hand guard are US made) to be 'legal'
So what happens if you have a late Chinese that is not a C&R? That's a darned good question. Since 922(r) only covered the assembly, one assumes that since the gun is already imported into the US, it's legal in the condition you received it. If you begin to upgrade it in any way, I think they could argue that's a new 'assembly' of it and 922(r) would apply to even simple parts upgrades.
It's a confusing minefield. They like it that way, as confusing as possible means that they can drop the hammer for seemingly insignificant things whenever they want to.
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Never seen the 922(r) police at any range I frequent. Can you just see them stripping your long gun and counting parts? Don't think it will happen.
Good thing I'm a purist. :P
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Does the fact that all Yugos are considered C&R regardless of age make any difference when using Yugo parts to replace Chinese parts?
C&R status would effect a complete rifle only, not parts, C&R firearms have to maintain 'as imported' condition to comply with the C&R law.
Given this "Hypothetical build" is an early imported Chinese since it's been here 15yrs, it's not a C&R anyway. Parts are just parts, pieces are just pieces.
If you started with a C&R weapon to begin with, then you may have to deal with these items, but only thing I see is 922r, and I don't know cause I don't swap tacticool stuff.
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Maybe some answers in here, (probably more questions)....
“Survivors” SKS FAQ (http://www.victorinc.com/SKS-FAQ.html#_Toc322267318)
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Maybe some answers in here, (probably more questions)....
“Survivors” SKS FAQ (http://www.victorinc.com/SKS-FAQ.html#_Toc322267318)
The last time I visited the legal section there, I was banned for a week. ::)
Since everything is now simply a replacement, which should be OK with what I get from 922r, she will live like this...which is kind of too bad, she looks really good with a USA mag taken into the white. :(
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k214/kissvids/DSCN2217.jpg) (http://s89.photobucket.com/user/kissvids/media/DSCN2217.jpg.html)
If I need the detachable mags, I will simply put her in one of the aftermarket stocks that gets my count back to normal. This law is silly.
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Justin, I agree with others that 922r enforcement is pretty much non-existent as a stand alone charge. That said, I don't like rolling the dice with the BATF and potential felonies, etc. An option would be to send your trigger group to Murray and have him install his US made hammer/trigger/sear and tune it. I did that with my Sporter and the trigger is so much better. You could also get the parts form Murray and have Kivvari do the work as he gets raves about his SKS trigger magic. It's a little pricey, somewhere around $125 total I think but you get three more 922r compliance parts and an awesome trigger that will make that your favorite SKS shooter. Combine those three parts with your cheese grater and you are 922r compliant no matter what stock and mag setup your heart desires. That said, the cheese graters don't usually (like never) have made in USA stamped on them anywhere so you may want to consider spending another $25 or so on a made in USA gas piston (op rod doesn't count, it's the gas piston you want).
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While I have no good reason to avoid 922r, it's unconstitutional.
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Justin, I agree with others that 922r enforcement is pretty much non-existent as a stand alone charge. That said, I don't like rolling the dice with the BATF and potential felonies, etc. An option would be to send your trigger group to Murray and have him install his US made hammer/trigger/sear and tune it. I did that with my Sporter and the trigger is so much better. You could also get the parts form Murray and have Kivvari do the work as he gets raves about his SKS trigger magic. It's a little pricey, somewhere around $125 total I think but you get three more 922r compliance parts and an awesome trigger that will make that your favorite SKS shooter. Combine those three parts with your cheese grater and you are 922r compliant no matter what stock and mag setup your heart desires. That said, the cheese graters don't usually (like never) have made in USA stamped on them anywhere so you may want to consider spending another $25 or so on a made in USA gas piston (op rod doesn't count, it's the gas piston you want).
I have been giving serious consideration to getting a trigger job with US parts, I also fear that I will be tempted to continue doing them on all of my SKS's! This particular one has had some minor work done to it, sear polish and wolffe springs...and already it is a considerable difference. I have also been kicking around the gas piston idea as well, it's not like I couldn't swap it out on other bubba setups to get that one last part out of the way.
I may end up going that route...I do have a spare trigger group that could also swap out from SKS to SKS based on what wild hair has me messing with them. :)
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Oh, I have considered one before...a tad less spendy than that, but not much. I suppose I could rent it out to folks with cheese graters nationwide and more than make my money back. :P
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Funny... the cheese graters are made in usa but dont state it anywhere on the part. I told a guy he should do this 5 years ago and he did. chuckles1
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Funny... the cheese graters are made in usa but dont state it anywhere on the part. I told a guy he should do this 5 years ago and he did. chuckles1
It isn't like I couldn't buy em from eBay, stamp them, re-list them for double the price. Custom serialized to your gun for triple?
I already have a hammer. rofl
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(Note to self: Don't buy parts from these guys) :o
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Here is my .02 worth for anyone who cares. :P
The absolute only way you can know if 922r even comes into play on your SKS or if it is compliant to 922r without swapping out the already understood quantity of parts for the given variant is to get it in writing from the Technology branch.
In this case, JH's pic of how he is planning on leaving it I think would fall into the replacement part category on the HG. If, however, he wants to use the detachable USA mag then yes replace one more part and he is fine.(mag=2, HG=1, buy a piston or replace the stock=1, good to go)
Overall, as pictured, I wouldn't worry about it since it still looks fairly original in concept. Even if the ATF did go around checking Firearms for compliance unless you had a jerk for a field agent they'd leave you alone.
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May I weigh in with my worthless .02cents worth? The risk of losing your "right to bear arms" is not worth the gamble. To replace the hammer and sear is a piece of cake, 10 mins max, 2 parts. Replace the 10 round box mag with a detachable, 2 mins, 2 more parts. Replace the stock and hand guard with your USA made choice is 2 more parts. Total of 6 parts. Even with a Yugo, that gets you to 15-6=9, 1 under the law. All others = 8. And it IS the law. Not worth the chance you get an ATF agent looking to make a name for himself. Don't forget the agent that tried to shut down that Seattle Company selling Airsoft guns as "easily converted to FA"!!! Forget that the Airsoft won't handle the 35,000psi and explode in your face. As always CYA.
PS: 922r applies not just to the SKS, but ANY imported platform you own. My Belgian, Browning, A5 shotgun ALSO falls under the 922r requirement. So, if I were to replace the shell holder tube with one that holds 9-10 shells, for example, as a HD shotgun, I would also need to replace "additional" parts to be in compliance.
If you use an aftermarket mag (or stock), with the M-Nagant, same 992r law applies. ANY change your make to an imported firearm, falls under the 922r requirement. Modifier be aware.
Marcus
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May I weigh in with my worthless .02cents worth? The risk of losing your "right to bear arms" is not worth the gamble. To replace the hammer and sear is a piece of cake, 10 mins max, 2 parts. Replace the 10 round box mag with a detachable, 2 mins, 2 more parts. Replace the stock and hand guard with your USA made choice is 2 more parts. Total of 6 parts. Even with a Yugo, that gets you to 15-6=9, 1 under the law. All others = 8. And it IS the law. Not worth the chance you get an ATF agent looking to make a name for himself. Don't forget the agent that tried to shut down that Seattle Company selling Airsoft guns as "easily converted to FA"!!! Forget that the Airsoft won't handle the 35,000psi and explode in your face. As always CYA.
PS: 922r applies not just to the SKS, but ANY imported platform you own. My Belgian, Browning, A5 shotgun ALSO falls under the 922r requirement. So, if I were to replace the shell holder tube with one that holds 9-10 shells, for example, as a HD shotgun, I would also need to replace "additional" parts to be in compliance.
If you use an aftermarket mag (or stock), with the M-Nagant, same 992r law applies. ANY change your make to an imported firearm, falls under the 922r requirement. Modifier be aware.
Marcus
Marcus, your .02cents is worth the tax on a 25 cent purchase in Houston still isn't it. :)
I think 922r only applies to semi auto imported firearms that are on a list of 'unimportable' (post ban) firearms. If it is no longer importable....but is already here, you cannot modify it using imported parts. Whereas, on a Mosin as you listed in your example wouldn't apply because it is still importable, and it also is not semi auto.
The only reason I posted was I was wondering if, since broken parts are allowed to be replaced under 922r, (my original stock was never present, and it's replacement broke as well)...adding a Yugo stock was an issue. Same goes with the hand guard....mine broke, so I had to replace it with...something. Through the process, I thought it would be nice to add a detachable, but that is where it seems to get into 922r's evil little clutches...which is why I just opted to go back to the factory mag.
I am also under the impression that since the AWB expired, that the 'evil features' are no longer an issue, that the bayonet swap from spike to blade (also Yugo, and also not on the list of 922r parts that apply) would also be a non issue.
I may just try contact the local BATFE folks and ask how my circumstance applies...if anything, getting them to read their own confusing wording will be a lil bit of torture as it is for most of us in trying to determine what applies and what doesn't.
BTW, you must have an awful lot more luck pulling the pin on the trigger groups than I, never once have I had that easy of a time pulling a hammer and sear....even after I figured out just how to pull the hammer off the 'easy' (right) way. :) I learned this the hard way on several trigger groups when attempting to install the prototype version of the Gould Engineering mag release. Of the two TGs I was successful with, the pin came out 'easily' on one, rather difficult on another...and apparently impossible on a couple more...at least with the amount of hammering away that I was willing to do.
When this carbine is dressed in her plastic, she is good under 922r...stock, hand guard, mag body and follower...I am covered. I just wanted to allow this thing to finally resemble what it once was....sort of. Mixing two different countries stuff...I dunno. Which is why I was asking.
Hopefully someone will chime in if I am wrong, its way to early to be reading 922r stuff right now, although it is making me look forward to the dentist appointment I am on my way to. chuckles1
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As I mentioned previously, your local ATF office can tell you anything, but unless you get it in writing from the Tech branch it means squat. It is also likely the local office will refer you to them anyway.
What getting it in writing WILL do for you though is; if they ever decided to start majorly enforcing that portion of the regs you would be safe having it in writing stating it is okay. Well, as safe as one can be from a..........sorry, getting into a different topic. rofl rofl
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I stand corrected. Thanks for the clarification. 922r is a bunch of crap and for good reason. The BATF doesn't want it easy to comply. I did find this 'worksheet', that may help in the quest to check if you are legal.
http://jobson.us/922r/ (http://jobson.us/922r/)
Marcus
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I stand corrected. Thanks for the clarification. 922r is a bunch of crap and for good reason. The BATF doesn't want it easy to comply. I did find this 'worksheet', that may help in the quest to check if you are legal.
http://jobson.us/922r/ (http://jobson.us/922r/)
Marcus
Just be careful with this spreadsheet. Not saying it's wrong but it is not SKS specific so there are some parts on there that don't apply to the SKS like trunnion, barrel extension, pistol grip, magazine floor and operating rod. Muzzle attachment only applies to Yugos that came with the grenade launcher. While the SKS does have an operating rod I believe that BATF determined that in the SKS the operating rod is just an extension of the gas piston and does not count as a part. My understanding is you only count the gas piston so you only need to replace the gas piston to count 1 part. I replaced both just to be safe as the Tapco operationg rod was not much more money when I bought the Tapco gas piston but I don't think the op rods are made anymore anywhere in the USA.
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I stand corrected. Thanks for the clarification. 922r is a bunch of crap and for good reason. The BATF doesn't want it easy to comply. I did find this 'worksheet', that may help in the quest to check if you are legal.
http://jobson.us/922r/ (http://jobson.us/922r/)
Marcus
Just be careful with this spreadsheet. Not saying it's wrong but it is not SKS specific so there are some parts on there that don't apply to the SKS like trunnion, barrel extension, pistol grip, magazine floor and operating rod. Muzzle attachment only applies to Yugos that came with the grenade launcher. While the SKS does have an operating rod I believe that BATF determined that in the SKS the operating rod is just an extension of the gas piston and does not count as a part. My understanding is you only count the gas piston so you only need to replace the gas piston to count 1 part. I replaced both just to be safe as the Tapco operationg rod was not much more money when I bought the Tapco gas piston but I don't think the op rods are made anymore anywhere in the USA.
Carl, I agree, but we have digressed a bit. 922r IS confusing. My original point, was, I won't take the chance of being busted. YMMV, but it just isn't worth the risk, to me anyway, to test it IRL applications. I'll comply and shoot knowing I have CMA legally. The minimum is a stock and hand guard, 2 parts, detachable mag, another 2 parts, and just for grins and giggles the gas piston, another part. I went a bit further for safety sake and added Murray's spring loaded FP (not required), and did the hammer and sear, 2 more parts. All my SKS are now 922r compliant, except those I collect and don't shoot anyway. They are in original, as issued configuration. I can sleep better knowing if the black SUV's roll up at dark-30, I'm go to go!!
Clarify this for me if someone can. It is my understanding that a rifle in your safe (for example) w/o the mag inserted is considered an "incomplete" build and thus does not, at that very moment in time, fall under 922r? It MUST be 'complete', meaning a loaded mag, inserted and ready to go. Seems I read somewhere, that rifle is/could be considered a "build, not yet completed"???
Marcus
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Marcus, I completely agree. The authorities love nothing more than busting a gun guy so it really is guilty until proven innocent, not innocent until proven guilty when it comes to gun laws/regs. Yes, 922r is rarely if ever prosecuted except maybe as an add-on charge when someone is caught for something else. That said, they could decide to start enforcing it at any time and I don't want to be the one made an example of. I see so many guys trying to step through loopholes created by ambiguity in the law/regs and I just don't get it. Even if they are correct the onus will be on them to prove it in a court of law which costs time and money to do. Just not worth it for me personally.
I know you are aware of this, my caution is directed at the general audience, not you specifically.
I'm sorry I don't know the answer to your question about a gun without a mag being incomplete. Logic would say that if it didn't have a detachable mag you would be correct, but since when are gun laws/regs logical?
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Personally, I'm gonna say it to get it off my chest, so it's just my opinion. :o rofl2
Why bother with trying to turn chicken sh*t into chicken salad. An SKS won't ever turn into an AK or an AR, I don't care how many parts, pieces, money and trinkets you throw at it. It can't, because underneath you still have an SKS, just like a Mosin won't turn into a Remington 700. Like dressing up a swampdonkey for a big dancing ball, you just have a well dressed swampdonkey in the end. I mean if you want a weapon to covert into something, buy a purpose build modular weapon system like a Mr Potatohead AR. Obviously the laws are there, and at any given moment because little Johnny got away with it for all these years, who is to say they won't step up and b*tch slap someone who just stuck one American made part on. It's just easier in my eyes to avoid the situation all together, leave them as is, than live on the edge, and run any risk of being put in the situation where you have to prove your innocence against those who are looking for any and every reason to take the weapons away.
Just ramblings from a purist, I'll go away now... rofl
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This is a little off topic but one reason I can see for people wanting to mod out a SKS instead of just getting an AR or AK is state specific laws. Here in the commie state of CT you can no longer buy an AR or AK or VZ or anything else like that. You can have a SKS but you are restricted to 0 evil features if you switch to a detachable mag and the mag is limited to 10 rounds anyway.
So in CT if you want to mod your SKS you may as well stick with the fixed 10rd mag and then you don't have to play the evil features game at all. The problem then is that you have a harder time with your parts count if you don't get the 2 parts from the Tapco mag. Tapco 10rd fixed mags are the way to go if you want to mod a SKS in CT while still being 922r compliant and avoiding the hammer/trigger/sear replacement. Ugh, what a pain.
A SKS-M is still CT legal as long as you don't add any evil features and you stick with foreign made mags of 10rds or less. My M has Murray's hammer/trigger/sear, a Tapco gas piston and made in USA cheese grater handguard so I can use foreign mags of 10rds or less. I may get some US made followers and/or floor plates though just to be safe because the cheese grater isn't stamped made in USA, it just says that on the package it came in so I could see getting challenged on that.
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Ok, the home state laws bla bla aside rofl2, by the time one spends $??? for a folder stock, $?? for a mag that may or may not feed, $?? for drop free mod and or an artsy fartsy trigger group, $?? for a scope/scope mount that may or may not hold zero, plus the cost of said weapon it's self, your well in to the price range of a quality AR type in x39. In the end you end up with a weapon that possibly might, and I say might loosely, compete even against the cheapest of ARs in accuracy or function. I mean sure, it looks cool, but it's like a Z06 Corvette with a Chevette engine. And I haven't counted the time associated with such changes, some people don't look at time like me, time to me is money, time is time I could be happily blasting away not worrying if this mod will fail, or how well that part works. chuckles1
NOTE: I ain't trying to offend anyone, I'm a too each their own, you don't mess with me, I don't mess with you type person.. It's just something I've always wondered about, basically I don't understand it with my feeble mind, which is why I'm asking. thumb1
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Most people I seen only do one or two of the mods you listed. Its not like every single person gose full blown, so your right back to apples/ oranges. Your also in the Altered SKS section. thumb1
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I do agree that in most cases going nuts modifying a SKS to seem more AK or AR-ish will not be as good as a AK or AR and end up costing more money and a lot of time. All that said, some guys just like to tinker and they enjoy modifying their SKS. Many times these mods are done over time where the money spent doesn't seem so bad and the time is spread out in smaller chunks. Is it practical? nope, not usually. Do I do it? nope. Do I understand why some guys do? kinda sorta.
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Why do people mod the crap out of an eagle talon when they could have just got a bmw M ? rofl2q
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Well guys, I've built a pretty successful business selling mag adapters for the SKS to utilize hi-cap mags. They range from 75.00 to 225.00 each. Our G5 made for the SGW stock is hard to keep on the shelves. Why, it solves the mag locking up issue of the BullPup stock. Yes, they improve the ability of the SKS to feed reliably. Do they turn your SKS into an AK or AR? Absolutely not, they were never intended to do that. Do they improve the SKS ability to feed and fire 20 or 30 rounds from detachable mags. You bet, that's why they sell. The one drawback to the SKS is the limited 10 round box mag. That is why we have been so successful.
Sorry for your States 10 round limit Carl. Come on down to Texas my friend.
Are our 'systems' for everyone? No, we never expected them to be. I have certain SKS rifles I won't touch from their original configuration as well. But, for a 199.00 RTI mismatch or a Norinco, or that BullPup, you bet I'll mod the pi$$ out of it and make it better that it was when new.
It's your choice not to mod or how much you want to mod. I respect that choice. It is your rifle, do with it (or don't) what you want.
Respectfully posted for both sides of the discussion.
:)
Marcus
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Again, I was by no means trying to flair up anyone or cause a pissing match between the two sides :o, it's just a general curiosity I have always had. I figured being an admin, I would better inform myself, more or less go for a crash education on the in's and out's as I've always shied away from the chopping, modding side of the world, because as I stated, I am the purist type. :o Because of this simple fact, as this forum grows, this subject will come up again, and again, not by me, but buy someone, someone who is whole hearted adamant about one side or the other. Given this, I would choose to remain impartial, not pick the purist or modder sides, I figure to remain impartial, I'm trying to learn the other side, the what's, the who's, the why's, the alteration and modding side, to make life easier for me in the future.. thumb1
Why do people mod the crap out of an eagle talon when they could have just got a bmw M ? rofl2q
Why buy a run of the mill BMW M, when you could just buy a Mercedes-AMG or Lexus IS-F ??? Why? Why? Why? Mr. Anderson, Why, do you persist?
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GM, I'm in noway offended. Contrary, just trying to offer insight as to why we DO mod our beloved SKS's. Personally, I find the modded SKS to be more suitable to what it was originally intended. It is a 'combat carbine' and 10 rounds, in my mind, is a little short of functional for that role. A case can easily be made that it is less weight to carry more rounds on stripper clips instead of 20-30 round mags. Yes, that is true. Flip side, it is much easier to drop a mag and slap another one in just as fast and less often as it has twice as many rounds. I'm not worth a crap with stripper clips either. Just can't get the hand of it. Our G9/A adapter operates identical to the AR 15 platform. Press a button (right finger), the mag drops out. Shove in a new mag (left hand), close the bolt and squeeze. It goes bang.
Different strokes for different folks as they say. I suppose it boils down to preference. My choice is detachable mags. Is that better? Maybe, maybe not. That is what I prefer. No one way is right or wrong. Just what is best for you.
Marcus
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Marcus, I do think your adapters are slick as snot. In fact when I first heard about them (and they were still legal in CT) I was pretty excited and told a few friends about them. I had every intention of trying one out with a cheap SKS I had. While I was waiting for the newer version that takes AR mags to come out CT went all moonbat crazy and outlawed everything fun. No, it would not have been an AR or AK but I love the SKS and I do like to tinker but only in ways that actually improve the weapon. IMHO many of the mods guys make do little if anything to improve the SKS beyond aesthetic preference and maybe LOP issues. Your adapters definitely improve the SKS. I do hope to get out of CT in a few years but not sure I can handle Texas. I'm sure it's lovely but my Russian blood doesn't like it too hot.
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Thats what north TX is for thumb1
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Well I did the mag drop mod to my SKS back in the Spring to use Tapco 20 rd mags then later decided to go back to the 10 round box magazine. Mary still uses the Tapco 20's in her carbine. They have functioned perfectly in our carbines but I just had a change of heart with mine. I guess what it boils down to for me is, I have become more of a "purist" also! With time/practice I can load with stripper clips in about the same time as I can inserting another magazine.
It all comes back to what Marcus said, "No one way is right or wrong. Just what is best for you."
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I decided to call the BATFE yesterday...the local number was disconnected.
I like that. :)
I then called the branch in the state capital, and talked with the person who answered the phone, and I am assuming the only person in the whole office. In fact, I think I woke her up! After a fairly lengthy explanation about the issue at hand, she decided to refer me to the guys in the technical department in DC. We shot the sh*t for a bit afterward, and she admitted to never once receiving a call regarding 922r...and from what I gleaned from the conversation, I don't think she even knew it existed.
I think the law was intended to target folk trying to import parts and assemble firearms and skirt the AWB...but worded to apply to anyone they want to apply it to... Essentially if they want to mess with you, its one more nail in your coffin if you are already guilty of something they may or may not be able to prove. Just a little extra for them to add to charges, and get their pound of flesh if things don't work out with other charges.
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Justin I suspect that is about all this law is used for, I doubt there are very many folks in the BATFE that knows everything in that conglomeration. It's a nightmare!
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Hopefully, no prosecutors can figure it out either....or perhaps they can't and that's why it has never been utilized. Who knows?
I do think more of us 'know' about it than any of them actually caring about it.