Thanks, Daniel Boone taught me. Actually that was my firstist and only deer I've shot. That rack size is my personal standard. Since I'm in Kali, most deer in my hunting zone, 3, 4, 5, are spikes of forks, and I'm not a meat hunter, so I look for 4 pointers or better. I really haven't gotten a chance to commit to serious hunting for a long time. Now that I'm retired, I hope to get up to Idaho and do some damage. My buds up there gaaruuntee success. They take elk and deer every season, and most have their lifetime moose already. PAX