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General Milsurp Weapons => Milsurp Rifles & Carbines => German => Topic started by: hoopharted on March 15, 2021, 10:31:17 AM

Title: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: hoopharted on March 15, 2021, 10:31:17 AM: at one point i had over 200 of these , im down to maybe 50 now , out of the arsenal i found a battle damaged example , it took a bullet right at the rear band , it breeched the shroud and the barrel itself as i can see light when siting the bore , i have never disassembled the rifle because i didnt want to dick with the originality of it , it was hanging on the wall of my gunroom for about 20 years , the last maintenance i decided to list it on GB and then got cold feet and yanked the auction early
(https://i.ibb.co/0DXNyX9/P6050018.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

(https://i.ibb.co/k2M8Fxc/OLYMPUS-DIGITAL-CAMERA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4RJTx7N)

(https://i.ibb.co/kyFgQYH/OLYMPUS-DIGITAL-CAMERA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LPfzn4k)
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Larry D. on March 15, 2021, 02:55:45 PM: 50 you say???????

By the way, that's cool as all gitout.
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: hoopharted on March 15, 2021, 03:05:14 PM: lol , yea thats probably more there than 50 isnt it ,LMAO !!! i was buying those things 20 at a time , i had box's of bolts and coffee cans of bolt heads ,extractors , ejectors and sight slides , im almost completely out of bolts , maybe 8 or 10 left , no more heads except what i have on my personal rifles , and down to maybe 5 sight slides
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Larry D. on March 15, 2021, 03:10:52 PM: Those are all old enough to be classed as antiques, right?
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: hoopharted on March 15, 2021, 03:16:48 PM: yup , they range from 1890 to 1895 , anything pre 1898 is antique , at one time i had half that shed packed with them
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: hoopharted on March 15, 2021, 03:18:57 PM: everyone said i was stupid , throwing my money away on them , i just laughed , paid $10 a piece for them , im selling them from $375 to $450 , whos stupid now
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Larry D. on March 15, 2021, 04:04:11 PM: Hoo's stoopid?

Sorry brother, I couldn't resist......
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Greatguns on March 15, 2021, 04:14:40 PM: Quote from: Larry D. on March 15, 2021, 04:04:11 PM
Hoo's stoopid?

Sorry brother, I couldn't resist......

rofl rofl rofl rofl, we have entirely way too much fun on this site.
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: hoopharted on March 15, 2021, 04:45:15 PM: ok that one busted me up
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Phosphorus32 on March 15, 2021, 05:40:38 PM: Definitely a cool one 8) The bullet perforated the jacket and barrel on both sides. That is quite remarkable. Bad day for the rifle, but possibly a lucky day for the owner if the rifle took the worst of it.

The only thing similar I have is the stock of a MAS 36 that probably encountered "Front Toward Enemy" side of a Claymore while in VC/NVA hands.

(https://i.ibb.co/nn8j1xH/17-stock-damage.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cCXQ84G)

(https://i.ibb.co/Wyk9LjL/18-claymore-holes.jpg) (https://ibb.co/T84Xsds)
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: hoopharted on March 15, 2021, 05:56:55 PM: oh yea that one is a keeper too ,i like that one ,

my rifle had small chunks of shrapnel in the butt ,it cut me several times before i just tapped it in flush , i am so glad i came to my senses and decided to hang onto it
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: hoopharted on March 15, 2021, 05:58:55 PM: i bet you could get a greased BB up that guys anus with a sledge hammer after taking a shot to the rifle like that
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Phosphorus32 on March 15, 2021, 06:03:59 PM: Definitely a sphincter-contracting event rofl
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: echo1 on March 16, 2021, 12:15:47 AM: Very cool guys. PAX
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Bob_The_Student on March 16, 2021, 03:56:44 AM: Quote from: Phosphorus32 on March 15, 2021, 05:40:38 PM
Definitely a cool one 8) The bullet perforated the jacket and barrel on both sides. That is quite remarkable. Bad day for the rifle, but possibly a lucky day for the owner if the rifle took the worst of it.

The only thing similar I have is the stock of a MAS 36 that probably encountered "Front Toward Enemy" side of a Claymore while in VC/NVA hands.

(https://i.ibb.co/nn8j1xH/17-stock-damage.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cCXQ84G)

(https://i.ibb.co/Wyk9LjL/18-claymore-holes.jpg) (https://ibb.co/T84Xsds)

I'm amazed that those swabs shot through the butt stock like that! :o whistle12
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Greatguns on March 16, 2021, 10:54:00 AM: Those aren't swabs, they're fleches from a miniature bow with a rubber band for a string, shot by miniature little men from Mars. rofl rofl rofl
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: hoopharted on March 16, 2021, 10:55:24 AM: im thinking someone didnt recover from that one , thats allot of damage
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Larry D. on March 16, 2021, 11:46:55 AM: Quote from: hoopharted on March 16, 2021, 10:55:24 AM
im thinking someone didnt recover from that one , thats allot of damage

You're likely correct. The former owner didn't need it anymore...

Pretty cool piece of history. Do you have any photo's of your "shrapnel butt"? :)
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Greasemonkey on March 16, 2021, 11:49:31 AM: War is hell, plain and simple.. I have a few with damage, but these are the 2 worst, I'd say gruesome ones.

They look like normal Mosins.. but the solider carrying either of them, had a rough ending :o

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/soiiqj3xv659n43/HPIM0436_zps05f2544f.jpg?dl=0)

Blood etching on my Finnish capture '38 Tula, several collectors attributed to that, about the only part not etched is the last 4 to 6 inches of the barrel at the muzzle. The bolt, trigger, rear sight and spring are all Finnish replacements.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/ovybqs6x5wadi1i/HPIM0759_zps7064a14c.jpg?dl=0)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/i5xsunhpjpbi1ol/HPIM0758.jpg?dl=0)

Barrel shrapnel damage on my Finnish capture '39 Izhevsk.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/3lb7k67a3lijn4k/HPIM0044_zps31c3e34d.jpg?dl=0)
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Larry D. on March 16, 2021, 12:06:39 PM: Wow.
I feel like not in the cool battle damaged stuff club.
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Phosphorus32 on March 16, 2021, 12:49:14 PM: Quote from: Bob_The_Student on March 16, 2021, 03:56:44 AM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on March 15, 2021, 05:40:38 PM
Definitely a cool one 8) The bullet perforated the jacket and barrel on both sides. That is quite remarkable. Bad day for the rifle, but possibly a lucky day for the owner if the rifle took the worst of it.

The only thing similar I have is the stock of a MAS 36 that probably encountered "Front Toward Enemy" side of a Claymore while in VC/NVA hands.

(https://i.ibb.co/nn8j1xH/17-stock-damage.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cCXQ84G)

(https://i.ibb.co/Wyk9LjL/18-claymore-holes.jpg) (https://ibb.co/T84Xsds)

I'm amazed that those swabs shot through the butt stock like that! :o whistle12

rofl Hey, I'll have you know that those specialized firearms ballistics forensics tools cost a fortune (okay, they're just cotton swabs and they didn't cost much, but other than that I'm sticking to my story)
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: hoopharted on March 16, 2021, 01:52:28 PM: Quote from: hoopharted on March 16, 2021, 10:55:24 AM
im thinking someone didnt recover from that one , thats allot of damage
there was really no damage , just some small deeply embedded shards of metal , i was afraid if i pulled them they would blow the wood out because i managed to get a pair of pliers on one piece and it wasnt going to come easy so i didnt press the issue , it was easier to flush them in , i got a couple nasty cuts from them , you dont handle a wall hanger allot so i would forget about the shards and next thing you know i was leaking
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: hoopharted on March 16, 2021, 01:54:53 PM: those are pretty awsome monkey man
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Greasemonkey on March 16, 2021, 02:05:54 PM: Another... from the other side of the world, a Mum'ed Type 99 Arisaka, not of damage persay.... but of the damage it could have possibly inflicted. In sunlight it has small flecks of metal embedded in the wood/finish.

The groove where the bolt seats, your fingernails follow when you cycle the bolt, so someone needing a manicure badly shot alot of rounds through it.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/a5g7r3yyyr2ril2/HPIM0106_zps6dd406f0.jpg?dl=0)
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: hoopharted on March 16, 2021, 02:19:27 PM: i just realized i have never owned one of those , whats a last ditch scrubbed mum example go for these days , missing the aircraft sights
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Phosphorus32 on March 16, 2021, 02:38:55 PM: Quote from: Greasemonkey on March 16, 2021, 02:05:54 PM
Another... from the other side of the world, a Mum'ed Type 99 Arisaka, not of damage persay.... but of the damage it could have possibly inflicted. In sunlight it has small flecks of metal embedded in the wood/finish.

The groove where the bolt seats, your fingernails follow when you cycle the bolt, so someone needing a manicure badly shot alot of rounds through it.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/a5g7r3yyyr2ril2/HPIM0106_zps6dd406f0.jpg?dl=0)

Cool. That explanation of the groove never would have occurred to me but sounds plausible.
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Phosphorus32 on March 16, 2021, 02:41:55 PM: Quote from: hoopharted on March 16, 2021, 02:19:27 PM
i just realized i have never owned one of those , whats a last ditch scrubbed mum example go for these days , missing the aircraft sights

Around $300-400. You might luck out and find a late production Type 99 for $200-300. I think the late production ones are cool but they bring less. It's funny, because late production K98k rifles often bring a premium...collector psychology rofl
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: hoopharted on March 16, 2021, 03:37:55 PM: thanks , yea i was thinking the same thing about the K98 thing , so mum in tact adds allot of value or nominal value
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Phosphorus32 on March 16, 2021, 03:43:26 PM: Quote from: hoopharted on March 16, 2021, 03:37:55 PM
thanks , yea i was thinking the same thing about the K98 thing , so mum in tact adds allot of value or nominal value
With an intact Chrysanthemum, multiply by 1.5 to 1.75
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: hoopharted on March 16, 2021, 04:39:36 PM: think i will just stay in my lane , but its nice to have an idea if one pops up unexpected ,thanks for letting me pick your brain again
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Phosphorus32 on March 16, 2021, 04:44:37 PM: Quote from: hoopharted on March 16, 2021, 04:39:36 PM
think i will just stay in my lane , but its nice to have an idea if one pops up unexpected ,thanks for letting me pick your brain again

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Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Bacarnal on March 21, 2021, 10:04:43 AM: Had a couple of guys in my unit find a pistol still attached to the owner in Lebanon. Bad JuJu happened to whoever possessed the pistol from then on. One caught a fatal round while there, another serious injuries. The last had an accident that blew off his left hand a few years later. The pistol disappeared after that and was not missed.
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: hoopharted on March 21, 2021, 12:00:28 PM: oh sure , go ahead and jinx us ,lol, just mess'n
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: Bacarnal on March 22, 2021, 09:54:37 PM: :) :) :) wink1
Title: Re: battle damage Gewehr 88
Post by: larm on February 12, 2023, 05:27:36 AM: i got these 2 rifles that have these marks in them,

i enjoy shooting the down and dirty surplus rifles,

i wonder... where , when and who has fired it .....kinda like if the rifle could talk...lol
(https://i.ibb.co/4WWHLHq/IMG-0211-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7vvqDqf)