Little help

[Greasemonkey]

Ok... I've got a question, well.... more of a request, so I will say, PLEASE and even a Thank you      I would like to see a "no date" Romanian SKS, a picture...something, just some kind of proof of existence so I don't have to lay awake at night. I've looked, dug and looked some more. I find a couple of odd serial numbers, again "reportedly" belonging to a no-date, but no photos to back it. Was their only like 5 or 10 made and they were locked away in a safe somewhere, sealed in a empty uranium mine in Europe after documentation, lost at sea before import?

All I see and find are posts from years gone by of "reportedly there is such a thing", if there is, where are or is a photo of it, even a Polaroid would work? I've also searched auctions, for sale ads, this and that and nothing. Did I miss one somewhere, over look it, pass it by, if so...great, show me

I don't care about what Russia or Albania did with no dates... I'm talking about Romania.. and that mythical unicorn..

[Loose}{Cannon]

Bump!

I second the request.

[Greasemonkey]

Just say'in   

Don't tell me we can find the first production Yugoslavian M59s and the first production Chinese Soviet-Sino 3 and 4 digit rifles and all this other stuff....but we can't locate a "reportedly there is such a thing" no date Romanian 

[running-man]

It appears that the two no dates on the Romanian S/N Data Board list came from: http://www.SKSboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=37745.60

This is why we only include guns we have photos for in the SKS-Files lists. 

The person recording the numbers originally could have just as easily made a mistake It seems. 

But then you hit up "the google" and luck out sometimes:

 
I honestly believe they simply missed the year stamp.  There is supposedly a Romy out there with a 1980 date that should have been 1960...

[Loose}{Cannon]

Yeah... I dunno.   That prefix is like the third used so it wouldnt make sense as its not 'that' early and the ones prior presumably do have the year.

[Greasemonkey]

I must have a lying Google.. so.. it's not a unicorn fart...

The date stamping guy was off that week or something if the prefix was not the original beginning, then it would or should be 1957 dated.

So...they do exist...they just aren't what they are fluffed up to be after all these years.. Easy enough 

Good.. I can sleep now. Thanks RM 

[Loose}{Cannon]

Hey...  If we didnt have the only reliable list of serials in chronological order...  we wouldn't be able to tell its not 'first' in the sequence.

SKSFiles wins again!    

[running-man]

I suspect it's similar to what happened to this /?5\ Chinese:


Should be 1-18xxxxx but they screwed up and just stamped it 18-xxxxx. By February (2-18), they had it fixed:


Come to think of it, that's a pretty good piece of evidence that the 1 through 12 numbers are months, they screwed up in Jan and had it fixed by Feb. 

[Loose}{Cannon]

RM..    I see a 1< on that gun, not a 'k'.

[running-man]

Could be could be. I'll pull the rest of the photos of that gun tomorrow and see if i can find another receiver pic. 

Doesn't change the position of the dash, they still screwed this gun up!

[running-man]

PS0054 and PS0071 don't have the date it appears but PS0091 does.  Took em darn near 100 guns to figure out they made a mistake. These no dates are most certainly '57s like you said LC. 

How do we know the PS came after the AA and DE series (besides alphabetical order?). Maybe starting up they changed their minds ~91 guns in and decided to add a date?

[Greasemonkey]

So in the end...

It's a simple stamping error, or lack thereof, maybe just a snap decision or an oops I forgot to....nothing to get all excited over. The time frame from 1957 to 1960 is pretty much it. The subject of a pre '57 or post '60 production is pretty much now null and void, given there are several no date prefixes noted in the 1957 year of production.

Good..now I dont have to keep looking for unicorns...and I can sleep and dream of Romys in sexy leather slings...

[Loose}{Cannon]

How do we know the PS came after the AA and DE series

I dunno...  I thought we had that list in chronological order.  Been a while since I looked at it.  If the serial sequence starts over for each prefix, and we dont know the order of the prefixes in each year, then I would say PS could have def been first.   

[Loose}{Cannon]

Good..now I dont have to keep looking for unicorns

No...  looks like there are atleast 71 unicorns GM

[Greasemonkey]

Good..now I dont have to keep looking for unicorns

No...  looks like there are atleast 71 unicorns GM

Thats alot of leather...I think I will just stick with production years 

[Phosphorus32]

Good..now I dont have to keep looking for unicorns

No...  looks like there are atleast 71 unicorns GM

Thats alot of leather...I think I will just stick with production years 

I don't know GM...I think you need each letter prefix  certainly the GM and CD series   

Come on man, I know you want to...Jimmy needs his precious, his precious Romanian SKSs...Cosmoline goodness and leather slings   

[Greasemonkey]

Good..now I dont have to keep looking for unicorns

No...  looks like there are atleast 71 unicorns GM

Thats alot of leather...I think I will just stick with production years 

I don't know GM...I think you need each letter prefix  certainly the GM and CD series   

Come on man, I know you want to...Jimmy needs his precious, his precious Romanian SKSs...Cosmoline goodness and leather slings   

My '58 is a CD series.....as in... CD'ese Romanians     A  GM prefix..humm, that should be a '59 model, thats entirely doable, it's a pretty common prefix. Then I gots to go find another leather bustier strap

If people would buy something other than common everyday Russians or Chinese, I could find one here and maybe try to swindle someone out of it. I mean if you look at the Romanian board.. pick'ens is really slim, I bet there is only maybe 25 rifles. They live up to the name "red headed step child".

[Loose}{Cannon]

When you get a GM prefix gun.... I may have a sling for you.   

See, your half way there already.