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Miscellaneous => Care, Cleaning, and Restoration => Cleaning/Chemicals/Methods => Topic started by: Worm on October 24, 2014, 12:35:20 PM
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I've always used Clenzoil. Anyone swear by anything?
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I should buy RemOil aerosol cans by the case. I've never done any great comparisons with alternative products, it's just readily available locally and I like it for cleaning and leaving a light rust preventative film behind.
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Welp, I'll get laughed at, but I use diesel truck oil. I like Delo 400LE 5w-40 syn oil.
High detergent, great anti-oxidation and lubrication abilities. It don't evaporate, sticks and clings to metal. And it's free. thumb1
Besides, can you think of a worse environment for a lubricant than inside a diesel engine, or in any engine. :o
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I should buy RemOil aerosol cans by the case. I've never done any great comparisons with alternative products, it's just readily available locally and I like it for cleaning and leaving a light rust preventative film behind.
I use RemOil often, to leave an anti-rust film too. You can find that stuff almost anywhere. thumb1
Welp, I'll get laughed at, but I use diesel truck oil. I like Delo 400LE 5w-40 syn oil.
High detergent, great anti-oxidation and lubrication abilities. It don't evaporate, sticks and clings to metal. And it's free. thumb1
Besides, can you think of a worse environment for a lubricant than inside a diesel engine, or in any engine. :o
Can't laugh at that. I use mobil 1 synthetic when I'm out of everything else. Sure smells good when shootin too.
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Well it's just my ill-rational thought, these weapons are 40+ years in age, there were no spaceage NASA high potency lubes, they have lasted this long on a diet of engine oil, kerosene, diesel, who knows what else those troops used, but it must have worked because it's operational and here today. And it ain't like I'll ever wear one out. I've hammered on my Yugo M59/66 for about 15years now, and it keeps ticking like a Timex. If it ain't rusting, displaying any metal shavings or hanging up, the oil must work.
And like everything, the engine oils today are spaceage lubes compared to engine oils of 40-50 years ago, so in theory should allow even less wear.
I only have 1 true modern military style weapon, an AR, but it just sits. I guess maybe it would need some space age stuff.
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Makes sense to me too. If it's slippery & meant for an engine it's good enough for my beater guns. Lol
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I mainly use Remoil also...CLP if I find it in our area. After a lot of firing when we had a minor malfunction in our "ma-deuce" (M-2) .50 cal we would raise the cover and pour in some 30 weight engine oil, they would rock and roll then!
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I mainly use Remoil also...CLP if I find it in our area. After a lot of firing when we had a minor malfunction in our "ma-deuce" (M-2) .50 cal we would raise the cover and pour in some 30 weight engine oil, they would rock and roll then!
Haha nice
I clean my guns with clp. Give em a nice clp bath, scrub, wipe, etc.. & hoppes for the bore. Clenzoil on the movin parts & good to go thumb1
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Inside of an engine dont see too much water
Review/comparison of gun care products | Ron's outdoor blog. (http://ronkulas.proboards.com/thread/274/review-comparison-gun-care-products)
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Inside of an engine dont see too much water
Review/comparison of gun care products | Ron's outdoor blog. (http://ronkulas.proboards.com/thread/274/review-comparison-gun-care-products)
I would never store a gun and expect engine oil to preserve it. But lube for shooting? Any day
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Sure... for shooting, I squirt some Lucas gun oil into the action. Its rated at melt-your-face off tekps and was designed for machineguns. Problem solved.a
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Yeah. When i take the Ak's out though I just spit on em & call em a whore. rofl2
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I hate Rem oil with a passion. :-*
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Inside of an engine dont see too much water
Review/comparison of gun care products | Ron's outdoor blog. (http://ronkulas.proboards.com/thread/274/review-comparison-gun-care-products)
Yea, when at operating temp the water evaporates. I'll go along with this, BUT :o
Shut said engine down when it is 180-210 degrees on a nice humid 20 degree night, let sit. What will form on the inside where the air is warm while outside is cold? Condensation, A.K.A. water, where does it go, straight into the oil pan, where is the pump pick up, in the bottom of the pan. Run an engine with a blown head gasket, broke head bolt or stud, crack a liner, rebuild an engine and screw up the liner protrusion, nick a liner o-ring during install, pop an oil cooler, crack a water cooled turbo housing, all these are just a few of the points of entry, excluding the intake. Most of the time if small enough, the internal leak goes somewhat unnoticed, till you take a sample of the oil for used oil analysis, 10,000 miles or more later, oh look, it's got coolant in the oil. By this time who knows how much water/coolant has passed through the oil, seeping in and evaporating, repeating over and over. High sodium content is a indicator of coolant in oil. I can always get into how much water comes into through the air induction system, heating and cooling and condensation of the charge air and such. Relative humidity, temperature, dew point, super cooling and a myriad of other formulas chuckles1 thumb1
Engines are not by any means air tight or water tight, air has water in it, so technically, yes, engine oil sees more water than you might think.. thumb1 There are alot of measures, like PVC, crank case filters and others in place to see that the water vapor is expelled during normal operation, so to 99.9% of the population, the water goes un-noticed.
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I stand corrected... engines are filled with water and diesel oil is THE superior gun protecting oil of choice by those that know. :P fart1
I just hate replacing my sks's oil-pump.... what a pita. rofl
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I stand corrected... engines are filled with water and diesel oil is THE superior gun protecting oil of choice by those that know. :P fart1
I just hate replacing my sks's oil-pump.... what a pita. rofl
Well, you drive a Cummins powered beast, they drink more coolant than fuel anyway rofl chuckles1 rofl2
Secretly, I smear KY for her on the gun, and then smear KY for him, on myself. fart1 fart1 dance1 OH boy, the banging that follows :o
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Can someone please translate that for me?? I lost my Sasquatch to English translation book. :))
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Can someone please translate that for me?? I lost my Sasquatch to English translation book. :))
KY Jelly you cumquat!!! chuckles1 His and Hers banghead1, shhheeeesshh, and Sasquatch rofl2, Naw man when the KY Jelly comes out, it's Rick James B*tch!!! chuckles1 rofl2 rofl
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Lmfao chuckles1
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What the frack is Clenzoil? Never heard of it.
I just buy whatever WallyWorld has, which usually encompasses a huge selection- Safariland CLP or RemOil. I prefer the CLP, it cleans better. I also tend to think it doesn't make a smidgen of difference what you use, as long as the gun's stored properly, maintained regularly and not abused.
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Hey bat1, the third time is a charm I hear :o, first time I was all out server banned for being a spammer, and last weekend, I was banned for being a BOT. So thats twice, I'm like a hemorrhoid, I keep coming back thankyou1 chuckles1 rofl2 rofl
What the frack is Clenzoil? Never heard of it.
It sounds like a new age acne medication chuckles1
I'll stick to my water infused, pitiful, decrepit, useless, FREE engine oil thumb1
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"...as long as the gun's stored properly, maintained regularly and not abused."
Yep, I too prefer CLP it's just hard to find in my area.
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Hey Greasemonkey...what the heck is a "BOT"? Inquiring minds want to know!
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Clenzoil:
http://www.clenzoil.com/field__range.aspx
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You, Mr. Cannon are incurable!!
rofl2
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Hey Greasemonkey...what the heck is a "BOT"? Inquiring minds want to know!
Basically a web robot, like an e-mail finder/thief, and other types of nasty things, could also be like a browser bot, a search engine. They can be both good and evil.
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Hey Greasemonkey...what the heck is a "BOT"? Inquiring minds want to know!
Basically a web robot, like an e-mail finder/thief, and other types of nasty things, could also be like a browser bot, a search engine. They can be both good and evil.
good bot = gunbot GunBot 8mm-mauser rifle ammo (http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/rifle/8mm-mauser/) :)
bad bot = Bad bot list (http://wpsecure.net/bad-bot-list/)
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good bot = gunbot GunBot 8mm-mauser rifle ammo (http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/rifle/8mm-mauser/) :)
Phosphorus I use gunbot.net a lot.
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For cleaning the nastiest of crud I've found Kano Kroil penetrating oil to clean better than anything. It stinks to high heaven but is better than anything I've ever tried.
As far as rust preventatives go I use eezox now. Rem oil sucks! Eezox works better than CLP and rem oil at rust prevention.
As far as slicking up actions go I use rig grease. Man does it slick em up and last.
I bought a small bottle of hoppes oil with weather guard because I got it cheaply. I might try it out.
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Gonna necro post this one.
I was mulling some things over in regards to cleaning, and got to thinking about stuff that been used in the past and found this thread.
There's some good info, as well as humor, to be found here.
What got me thinking was remembering Dad using some 3in1 oil on his 30-30 and the old Sears Ted Williams 22 we had.
Those 2, plus an old Mossberg bolt action shotgun, and a "sporterized" Enfield 303 put a lot of meat on the table when I was very young.
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RemOil here also.
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If I need to use oil, it's the RemOil. It's easy and not too expensive. Spray it on a rag and wipe it down.
For cleaning out receivers, trigger assemblies, etc., I've always used the CLP and my trusty airhose. I don't have any issues with water in my pressure tank, and I wipe it all down with a RemOil'd rag afterwards, anyway.
If I need to store the firearm for a bit, I use the RIG Gun Grease. That stuff works. Does what it's supposed to do.
There may be better stuff and better ways. It's just what has always worked well for me.
firstchoice
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Lately, I've been using Hoppes or RemOil because I have it here.
In the past, I've used motor oil in an empty eye drops bottle, transmission fluid, CLP, 3 in 1, machine oil, air tool oil, some WWII vintage lube, white lithium grease, and just about anything else handy.
One time while we were out in the desert, a buddy brought a brand new AR he's just finished putting together. He'd neglected to lube it and it was choking. I had nothing in my range bag, so I pulled the dipstick out of the Jeep and took care of the problem.
By the way, that was the last time I had nothing in the range bag.
If I have a preference, it's either CLP or RemOil. Mostly because of the small size of the container.
I would like to try the Lucas stuff, but I can't find it locally. Lucas has a great reputation in the lube business, and I think it's worth a shot, so to speak.
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i have heard Mobil 1, think that might be my next purchase.
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I have used Rem oil and gunny rag lube. Cant find anyone who sells gunny rag lube anymore but I think it was a mix of transmission oil/fluid and other properties. It worked great as a lube and preventing rust to the metal parts!
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Clenzoil for me
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CLP, the black aerosol can stuff. I like the foaming action of it, helps to get to some harder to reach areas more evenly IMO.
Had a gallon of the army issue CLP for a while, the stuff they dip full sized paint brushes in and slap inside the feed tray of a .50 or 240 on range days, but its down to a waterbottle amount. It does it's job or atleast good enough for government work. :))
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Yeah,the newer foaming bore cleaners work much quicker and save you a lot of elbow grease from having to keep scrubbing the fouling out of a barrel,bolt and chamber.The rest of the gun I just use mild isopropyl alcohol to clean and degrease as it will not harm or stain fancy finishes and is safe to touch and no harmful vapors like the trichlorethylene stuff is.
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Yeah,the newer foaming bore cleaners work much quicker and save you a lot of elbow grease from having to keep scrubbing the fouling out of a barrel,bolt and chamber.The rest of the gun I just use mild isopropyl alcohol to clean and degrease as it will not harm or stain fancy finishes and is safe to touch and no harmful vapors like the trichlorethylene stuff is.
It sounds like you're referring to the metal, so agreed. Just keep polar solvents like isopropanol, denatured "alcohol" (ethanol), acetone, etc. away from shellac coated stocks, they will dissolve or craze the finish.
Agreed that the trichloroethylene, perchloroethylene (aka, tetrachloroethylene) and other chlorinated solvents are good to avoid, especially in poorly ventilated areas (inside a house or garage), and without appropriate gloves.
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My dad used to use real Whale Oil-- in little yellow cans with a whale spouting on the label.
Then there was Hoppe's #9 solvent and gun oil.
Then Break Free CLP- great for cleaning and freeing up dirty actions.
For gun oil- whatever's available on the shelf when I run out.
For copper fouling I recommend you all try Wipe-Out bore cleaner foam. Zero brushing of the bore. Keeps the copper fouling under control with less scrubbing, fewer patches and elbow grease. Smells good.
As far as oil, there are many new gun oils and they're all pretty good.
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I never saw whale oil, but my dads gun oil was in the traditional recangular metal can with a spout (like 3 in one) It was called "Gun Oil" i assume it was either Parker Hale or Bisley.
I use Outers gun oil because, thats what the store had? or it came in a cleaning kit? Who knows.
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I’ll necropost here. I’m surprised no one mentioned Ballistol. Good for lots of things including corrosive stuff.
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Well I still use the eezox as a final coat to put a little shine on the gun.
However as of late I've been using rand bore and bolt to clean with and then limb it up with rand clp.
On my ar I squirter a drop of 3in1 teflon oil in the two holes in the bolt carrier and move the bolt forward and back alot to work it in. This makes a real slick action. If I'm shooting it and I feel it needs lube I use geissele go juice. As far as rust prevention if storing them for a long time I use lps2 or lps3.
For my ak and sks I use moly wheel bearing grease. It aureus great.
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Oh... I get to necropost.. zombie topic.. AWAKEN.... rofl2
Just for giggles.. I kind of expected better out of the highly toted Ballistol.. rofl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fibRewlndLg
Thats why I prefer engine oil..... chuckles1