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Title: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on October 22, 2020, 02:03:39 PM
Hey guys...

Its been a minute since Ive been on much due to business workloads but I wanted to pose a general question.  I have this box of guns and wanted to know your thoughts on selling.  I have a couple of them and I didnt know if I should sell them as a package or sell them individually or in doubles? 

I think the timing is good and I have some expenses coming up in the spring that I will need this money from a sale to use.  My brother tells me I should send them to an  auction.  Any thoughts?


(https://i.ibb.co/7XBk4PM/Yugo-Crate.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nb4PC9d)
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Larry D. on October 22, 2020, 02:11:01 PM
Oh Lord......
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on October 22, 2020, 02:13:26 PM
It is true... lol.  I just dont know which direction I should take.   :)
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Larry D. on October 22, 2020, 02:14:32 PM
Adopt me!
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on October 22, 2020, 02:16:08 PM
I consider you guys family.   dance2
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Greatguns on October 22, 2020, 02:23:24 PM
Dang, just dang!

Where are you at again?(basically asking US or Canada)

There is a guy selling a crate of those on GB with a starting price of $9999.99, but it just keeps on recycling cause nobody is going to pay that much. Your other issue is, who has that much money? Sell it as a crate to a dealer and he is going to want lowball price so he can make the profit. Selling 1x1 gets your max price, but it will vary and take more time. If you sell in an auction style you won't want to post them all at once or you are competing with yourself and the price drops. Set a price on a BIN and you can sell them all from one listing. Either way you have to come up with boxes for each set up, take care of your postage and insurance, deal with question/answers, non-payors, etc, etc. If you sell a complete crate they will have to be shipped by freight, not common carrier(UPS/FEDEX/USPS)

Just some food for thought.
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on October 22, 2020, 02:27:02 PM
Dang, just dang!

Where are you at again?(basically asking US or Canada)

There is a guy selling a crate of those on GB with a starting price of $9999.99, but it just keeps on recycling cause nobody is going to pay that much. Your other issue is, who has that much money? Sell it as a crate to a dealer and he is going to want lowball price so he can make the profit. Selling 1x1 gets your max price, but it will vary and take more time. If you sell in an auction style you won't want to post them all at once or you are competing with yourself and the price drops. Set a price on a BIN and you can sell them all from one listing. Either way you have to come up with boxes for each set up, take care of your postage and insurance, deal with question/answers, non-payors, etc, etc. If you sell a complete crate they will have to be shipped by freight, not common carrier(UPS/FEDEX/USPS)

Just some food for thought.

Yes... this.  I have run this scenario over in my head a few times already.  They are consecutive serials which is kinda of rare I guess.  Some people would say it makes no difference and others say it does... which is why I asked maybe breaking the crate into doubles if collectors would want that. 

Not sure which is the reason for the post.  Thank you for the input.  What would you do?
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on October 22, 2020, 02:28:03 PM
And I am in Tennessee.  8)
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: owenj492 on October 22, 2020, 02:29:37 PM
And I am in Tennessee.  8)

So am I! west, middle, or east? And I'm just drooling over that crate of Yugo's, all numbers matching? Importer name?
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: astronut on October 22, 2020, 02:31:46 PM
They are not mine but if they were, I would try to sell them individually and not by the crate.  I may be wrong but that is what I would do.
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on October 22, 2020, 02:40:54 PM
And I am in Tennessee.  8)

So am I! west, middle, or east? And I'm just drooling over that crate of Yugo's, all numbers matching? Importer name?

Im in the middle.  Outside of Nashville.  I have not actually broken any of the rifles down but what it appears like is these were issued out and stayed in the crate since mfg..  They probably went in and out of the crate over the years to be inspected/serviced but this crate is consecutive. 

(https://i.ibb.co/Chp3qjw/Yugo-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KFcpYt5)

This one is not but still in very good condition.  I think both boxes are PW arms.
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on October 22, 2020, 02:42:47 PM
They are not mine but if they were, I would try to sell them individually and not by the crate.  I may be wrong but that is what I would do.

Well this was what I was thinking because I dont need the money at this moment so have time... but when asking on another forum to some friends several comments came up about those consecutive serial numbers.  Sooo thought I would ask the with you guys.

Thank you for the input.
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Bob_The_Student on October 22, 2020, 02:53:46 PM
What letter block are these? I would try and sell a 2,3 or 4 block or all in blocks of 2. Not individually if they were mine. And when you decide I may be interested.  thumb1
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on October 22, 2020, 03:00:00 PM
What letter block are these? I would try and sell a 2,3 or 4 block or all in blocks of 2. Not individually if they were mine. And when you decide I may be interested.  thumb1

Lets see... I believe the first box is J block.  The others are a smattering of different blocks.  Their are some consecutive rifles in the 2nd one as well I believe.  Its been a couple years since I looked at them. 
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Greatguns on October 22, 2020, 03:05:27 PM
What letter block are these? I would try and sell a 2,3 or 4 block or all in blocks of 2. Not individually if they were mine. And when you decide I may be interested.  thumb1

I would tend toward this line. If they are all the same letter block then sell in pairs or above, collectors will like this. And if someone wants three then it is at a premium price because that means someone else will possibly NOT get a sequential pair.
If these are truely pristine, as they appear, Starting at no less than $1600 a pair and if they want a third then $2500 for 3, 4 at $3200.

As Bob mentioned, if more than 1 letter block then separate by letters and sell accordingly.

As for shipping, you are in a good area for people to travel and do a local FFL near you to eliminate all that. Otherwise, find a dealer or carton/box company where you can get or buy on the cheap good boxes(heavy duty) to ship in. If shipping in pairs it's going to run at least $75 insured I imagine. Keep n mind, M59/66A1s are longer than other SKSs and will need a longer box. This adds to cost. over 48" they hit you with a $15 surcharge with FedEx. I know USPS and UPS do the same but not sure how much. USPS has a shorter length cutoff than UPS and FedEx. Can you tell I've done this a time or two before? :))
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: owenj492 on October 22, 2020, 03:07:21 PM
And I am in Tennessee.  8)

So am I! west, middle, or east? And I'm just drooling over that crate of Yugo's, all numbers matching? Importer name?

Im in the middle.  Outside of Nashville.  I have not actually broken any of the rifles down but what it appears like is these were issued out and stayed in the crate since mfg..  They probably went in and out of the crate over the years to be inspected/serviced but this crate is consecutive. 

(https://i.ibb.co/Chp3qjw/Yugo-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KFcpYt5)

This one is not but still in very good condition.  I think both boxes are PW arms.


Middle TN here also, in Maury county, keep up posted on what you might do, I would be interested in one or two!
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Greatguns on October 22, 2020, 03:08:13 PM
You can also, if selling on GunBroker or similar, do like the dealers do. List the letter blocks available(not the complete SN) and offer a premium for hand select to get the letter they want.
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: owenj492 on October 22, 2020, 03:11:20 PM
There is a Lebanon (TN) Gun Show coming up in Nov. 7 and 8....

https://gunshowtrader.com/gun-shows/lebanon-tn-gun-show/
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Greatguns on October 22, 2020, 03:11:54 PM
Another thing you could do BM is buy cheap double rifle plastic cases(Plano or the like) in the box. Add the cost to the sale price and ship the pairs of rifles in the cases with the cases inside the boxes they came in. Just a thought.

Or then again there's this;

There is a Lebanon (TN) Gun Show coming up in Nov. 7 and 8....

https://gunshowtrader.com/gun-shows/lebanon-tn-gun-show/
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on October 22, 2020, 03:18:40 PM
There is a Lebanon (TN) Gun Show coming up in Nov. 7 and 8....

https://gunshowtrader.com/gun-shows/lebanon-tn-gun-show/

Is that at the AG extension building?
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on October 22, 2020, 03:19:31 PM
What letter block are these? I would try and sell a 2,3 or 4 block or all in blocks of 2. Not individually if they were mine. And when you decide I may be interested.  thumb1

I would tend toward this line. If they are all the same letter block then sell in pairs or above, collectors will like this. And if someone wants three then it is at a premium price because that means someone else will possibly NOT get a sequential pair.
If these are truely pristine, as they appear, Starting at no less than $1600 a pair and if they want a third then $2500 for 3, 4 at $3200.

As Bob mentioned, if more than 1 letter block then separate by letters and sell accordingly.

As for shipping, you are in a good area for people to travel and do a local FFL near you to eliminate all that. Otherwise, find a dealer or carton/box company where you can get or buy on the cheap good boxes(heavy duty) to ship in. If shipping in pairs it's going to run at least $75 insured I imagine. Keep n mind, M59/66A1s are longer than other SKSs and will need a longer box. This adds to cost. over 48" they hit you with a $15 surcharge with FedEx. I know USPS and UPS do the same but not sure how much. USPS has a shorter length cutoff than UPS and FedEx. Can you tell I've done this a time or two before? :))

Good info and thoughts.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on October 22, 2020, 03:21:49 PM
What letter block are these? I would try and sell a 2,3 or 4 block or all in blocks of 2. Not individually if they were mine. And when you decide I may be interested.  thumb1

Lol... or maybe I just offer them to you guys. 
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: astronut on October 22, 2020, 03:28:04 PM
What letter block are these? I would try and sell a 2,3 or 4 block or all in blocks of 2. Not individually if they were mine. And when you decide I may be interested.  thumb1

Lol... or maybe I just offer them to you guys.

That is another option that is open to some thought.  And you would not have to pay a fee for listing them up on the broker. 
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: owenj492 on October 22, 2020, 03:28:56 PM
There is a Lebanon (TN) Gun Show coming up in Nov. 7 and 8....

https://gunshowtrader.com/gun-shows/lebanon-tn-gun-show/

Is that at the AG extension building?

https://rkshows.com/event/lebanon-tn-gun-show-4/

Copied from website https://rkshows.com/event/lebanon-tn-gun-show-4/

Wilson County Exposition Center
945 East Baddour Parkway
Lebanon, TN 37087 United States

OR other cities in TN

https://rkshows.com/events/category/tennessee/

I found this auction site on a TN Gun Owner website:

https://www.tngunowners.com/forums/
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Greatguns on October 22, 2020, 03:29:40 PM
What letter block are these? I would try and sell a 2,3 or 4 block or all in blocks of 2. Not individually if they were mine. And when you decide I may be interested.  thumb1

Lol... or maybe I just offer them to you guys.

I'm sure a few of us here would grab some. You already have Owen on the hook, LOL. I should get a free one just for all the quality information I have imparted. chuckles1 chuckles1
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on October 22, 2020, 03:30:46 PM
There is a Lebanon (TN) Gun Show coming up in Nov. 7 and 8....

https://gunshowtrader.com/gun-shows/lebanon-tn-gun-show/

Is that at the AG extension building?

https://rkshows.com/event/lebanon-tn-gun-show-4/

Copied from website https://rkshows.com/event/lebanon-tn-gun-show-4/

Wilson County Exposition Center
945 East Baddour Parkway
Lebanon, TN 37087 United States

OR other cities in TN

https://rkshows.com/events/category/tennessee/

I found this auction site on a TN Gun Owner website:

https://www.tngunowners.com/forums/

Yep I gotcha... That kinda where we get our duck blind drawing done for old hickory lake upper and lower. 
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on October 22, 2020, 03:35:46 PM
What letter block are these? I would try and sell a 2,3 or 4 block or all in blocks of 2. Not individually if they were mine. And when you decide I may be interested.  thumb1

Lol... or maybe I just offer them to you guys.

I'm sure a few of us here would grab some. You already have Owen on the hook, LOL. I should get a free one just for all the quality information I have imparted. chuckles1 chuckles1

Or maybe you get first dibs.  lol.
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Greatguns on October 22, 2020, 03:42:11 PM
What letter block are these? I would try and sell a 2,3 or 4 block or all in blocks of 2. Not individually if they were mine. And when you decide I may be interested.  thumb1

Lol... or maybe I just offer them to you guys.

I'm sure a few of us here would grab some. You already have Owen on the hook, LOL. I should get a free one just for all the quality information I have imparted. chuckles1 chuckles1

Or maybe you get first dibs.  lol.

Truthfully, I am not really into M59/66A1s that much. If I got one I would want a cheap parts gun that I could customize. They make excellent shooters when the gas block is shut off. Great for hunting when you want to salvage the casing.

That's why I quit looking at them, I was always too tempted to "play" with it and didn't want to destroy a nice complete one. I may be crazy, but I'm not THAT crazy. rofl
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: owenj492 on October 22, 2020, 03:46:34 PM
Greatguns, I have two each M59/66 barreled receivers that I would sale, one has a bent hood on the front sight, let me know via PM if interested.
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on October 22, 2020, 03:49:02 PM
What letter block are these? I would try and sell a 2,3 or 4 block or all in blocks of 2. Not individually if they were mine. And when you decide I may be interested.  thumb1

Lol... or maybe I just offer them to you guys.

I'm sure a few of us here would grab some. You already have Owen on the hook, LOL. I should get a free one just for all the quality information I have imparted. chuckles1 chuckles1

Or maybe you get first dibs.  lol.

Truthfully, I am not really into M59/66A1s that much. If I got one I would want a cheap parts gun that I could customize. They make excellent shooters when the gas block is shut off. Great for hunting when you want to salvage the casing.

That's why I quit looking at them, I was always too tempted to "play" with it and didn't want to destroy a nice complete one. I may be crazy, but I'm not THAT crazy. rofl

I gotcha... well I was called crazy when I purchased these some time back but we shall see who is really crazy.
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: owenj492 on October 22, 2020, 03:52:45 PM
I find it AWESOME that yo have crates of Yugo SKS rifles, in fact I'm jealous!



(https://i.ibb.co/t8fz31w/love-cosmoline.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D5XYLjP)
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on October 22, 2020, 03:56:24 PM
I find it AWESOME that yo have crates of Yugo SKS rifles, in fact I'm jealous!



(https://i.ibb.co/t8fz31w/love-cosmoline.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D5XYLjP)

Thank you... now tell that to my wife. 
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Greatguns on October 22, 2020, 04:05:01 PM
It ain't crazy, it's an investment. If you bought those back in the day at, let's say $200 per just for argument sake, that's $4000 for 2 full crates. That is about 5 rifles right now so you are getting about a 400% return on your investment.
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on October 22, 2020, 04:11:16 PM
It ain't crazy, it's an investment. If you bought those back in the day at, let's say $200 per just for argument sake, that's $4000 for 2 full crates. That is about 5 rifles right now so you are getting about a 400% return on your investment.

That sounds about right.  Milsurps have regularly beaten my regular stock portfolio pretty consistently through the years.
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Greatguns on October 22, 2020, 04:28:06 PM
It ain't crazy, it's an investment. If you bought those back in the day at, let's say $200 per just for argument sake, that's $4000 for 2 full crates. That is about 5 rifles right now so you are getting about a 400% return on your investment.

That sounds about right.  Milsurps have regularly beaten my regular stock portfolio pretty consistently through the years.

If you bought those 20 years ago that would be, without really doing the math, about a 12-14% APY
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: echo1 on October 22, 2020, 04:30:39 PM
I would sell them in pairs at whatever you think one is worth times two. PAX
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Phosphorus32 on October 22, 2020, 06:08:07 PM
I'll basically echo what echo1 said  ;) ...If they were mine, and I wanted/needed to sell, I'd probably sell in pairs with a modest premium for the consecutive pair.
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Cz315 on November 19, 2020, 10:37:55 AM
What do you guys think is a fair price for a minty Yugo from a crate these days? I never got one and I'm thinking it might be time before all these crates become nonexistent...
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Greatguns on November 19, 2020, 11:32:58 AM
What do you guys think is a fair price for a minty Yugo from a crate these days? I never got one and I'm thinking it might be time before all these crates become nonexistent...

A guy on Gunbroker has had a crate up for auction with a starting price of $9,999.99 and nobody has touched it yet. That's $1000 each + freight and possible tax. :o
I'm thinking $6,999.99 to start might get a bid. Individually you are probably looking at $700 minimum in this market and probably up to $1000.
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: 1mlt on November 19, 2020, 11:41:28 AM
I'll buy one of the empty boxes from you. How much?Marcus
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Tbone13 on November 19, 2020, 03:05:58 PM
Take some really good pictures of some of the rifles then offer up the crate for $10k.
The worst thing that could happen is nothing.  No loss there.
If they don't sell then trickle them out one at a time. Take each one down for pics of matching serials and so forth.  Use the empty crate for a rabbit hutch.
A buyer might just take you up on the case and save you a lot of trouble. You won't know unless you try.
They're going nuts out there.
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Matchka on November 19, 2020, 03:32:20 PM
Jimminy cripes! Bummer that the GL's will prohibit sales in CA, other states - unless some outfit purchases and gets busy with a hacksaw (gawd forbid!).
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Cz315 on November 19, 2020, 03:56:56 PM
I see a crate for 8K on Gunbroker, that's probably closer to the current going rate... Will be interested to see if they will be takers.
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Greatguns on November 19, 2020, 08:11:01 PM
I see a crate for 8K on Gunbroker, that's probably closer to the current going rate... Will be interested to see if they will be takers.

More than likely the same guy I saw, but he finally lowered his starting price.
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on November 22, 2020, 11:27:42 PM
Well guys I decided to list the first pair on GB tonight.  We shall see how the chips fall. 
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: Greatguns on November 22, 2020, 11:32:54 PM
Well guys I decided to list the first pair on GB tonight.  We shall see how the chips fall.

Post a link up in Auctions
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on November 22, 2020, 11:51:42 PM
I just posted the item number.
Title: Re: Box of guns
Post by: BMont on November 27, 2020, 03:26:49 PM
Hey owenj492... and any one else on this thread I just posted a single out of this crate on GB.  See auction section for more info.  Cheers