1950 SKS with spike bayonet

[jstin2]

Here is a picture of the stock differences between the spike and blade where they fit into the stock ferrule.

https://ibb.co/gJYOew

[Justin Hell]

Here is a picture of the stock differences between the spike and blade where they fit into the stock ferrule.

https://ibb.co/gJYOew

Nice comparison photos...that angle shows how drastically different they are. A similar photo showing a Chinese spike stock next to those would be cool to see as well...as they are closer to the blade variety than the Russian spike in the girth.

[jstin2]

I added a picture showing the pin position for a stock ferrule with a spike bayonet. It also shows that the bayonet does not touch the stock ferrule.

https://ibb.co/album/kP3zJv

[pcke2000]

I added a picture showing the pin position for a stock ferrule with a spike bayonet. It also shows that the bayonet does not touch the stock ferrule.

https://ibb.co/album/kP3zJv

That is correct ferrule for russian spike bayonet,  same as the one on my 1949.

[jstin2]

On reply #80, it was discussed about the lightening holes in the receiver cover and the fact that it was probably done at refurb. There has been some questions about the cover on another forum. On closer inspection of my 50, I noticed that it has a lightening hole in the receiver. Same location as later years but it is twice as deep. Will post some pictures in the next couple weeks. It is my opinion that when refurb. drilled the holes in receiver cover they also did the receiver.

[jstin2]

I added some pictures of the lightening hole in the receiver. Hole in receiver is the same diameter as the cover, but is smaller than later carbines.

https://ibb.co/album/kP3zJv

[Loose}{Cannon]

FYI.....  thats not a lightening hole.  Thats simply the bored through hole that houses the trigger tang latch.  How much hole depth you see to the top of that tang latch from the inside of the receiver just depends on the length of the tang latch itself.

Look under the receiver at the same location.... you will see a cross pin that retains it in place.  Drive out that pin and it slides right out. 

[jstin2]

Live and learn. Checked it out and I see what you mean. I have a 49 with a spike and there is no hole.

[jstin2]

Added additional pictures of the receiver and cover S/Ns. Questions about E on receiver not matching other S/Ns.
 https://ibb.co/album/kP3zJv

[Loose}{Cannon]

[jstin2]

To me it appears that the stamp was not struck properly and the top is lacking depth. It was hit bottom heavy causing a larger bottom and narrow top. You can see how it narrows as it goes to top and does not have the depth.

[Loose}{Cannon]

And how would this change the huge distance/gap between the top line and middle line? 

Also, how do you explain the fact the receiver E is as you say 'shallow', but yet is somehow wider then the other?  I would think the deeper.... the wider. 

[newchi]

 Now i need to see a Б serial stamp up close

[Loose}{Cannon]

Now i need to see a Б serial stamp up close

Thats exactly what I was thinking. 

You have some pics RM?

[jstin2]

I added 7 more pictures to album. They are as close as I could get without it getting fuzzy. Should help in recognizing font. I will do anything to help provide a solution.

https://ibb.co/album/kP3zJv

[Justin Hell]

Those pics make me question whether that is actually an E on the receiver at all, and certain that it is on the cover.  I think perhaps it was a worn 'b' stamp that easily could explain the use of an E on a replacement 50 cover.  They probably thought it was an E too.

I just checked both of the sets of Es on my 49/50 mine are quite distinct, and don't have that 'b' look. Either on the EO parts or the Ey parts.  The numbers on mine appear to be struck harder, perhaps at a different time as the prefix, like yours.

Is your piston serialed? Seeing it in actual handwriting might help confirm...unless the confusion carried on to a replacement piston when the cover was replaced.  The trigger is a little hard to tell from the pic....but doesn't appear to be scrubbed.

[jstin2]

Piston is serialized and there is a picture of it in album.

[running-man]

Now i need to see a Б serial stamp up close

Thats exactly what I was thinking. 

You have some pics RM?

Б's don't come up that often.  Mostly 1954 Izhevsk guns, but there are a smattering of other years in the survey with a second character Б.  Here's a set from guns with a E prefix.  I would consider these to have likely been produced somewhat close chronologically to the OP's EM gun.  Likely after because of the blade modified ferules, though the ferrule weld could easily be a refurb modification and not done at production.  Too bad we can't see the pin hole on any of these stock ferrules, I suspect they are all top pinned as all the other transitional '50 E's with blades are top pinned ferrules.  Still, a very interesting set of features on these:












Here's a second in the series that clearly has a replacement in place of the transitional '50 cover but the rest of the hardware looks ok:







And a third with similar features, and again a transitional '50 cover





Not a smoking gun, but it's certainly plausible that the OP's gun is a '50 like these above are thought to be.  It's also plausible that the OP's gun is a '49 with that bottom pinned ferrule too.  The ferrule and spike are certainly 'off' when it comes to the other examples of transitional 50's that I have.  I will add that all other EM prefix guns I have show blade bayos and appear to all have top pinned ferrules. 

[Loose}{Cannon]

Geez....  The cover serials on the two showing them are suspect aswell.  Typical refurb conundrum.

[Loose}{Cannon]

#2 definitely has a replacement cover....  That makes it a 50 also based on other features. 

All three are 50s....  With blades.  The OP has a dif prefix entirely and the serial stamps are suspect.   Likely a 49 with a 50 cover. 

Gotta love refurbs.