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Miscellaneous => Care, Cleaning, and Restoration => Cleaning/Chemicals/Methods => Topic started by: gregsthe1 on October 18, 2016, 02:55:12 PM

Title: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: gregsthe1 on October 18, 2016, 02:55:12 PM
Been at it for a few months and am up to 30 now. Probably a good dozen or so to go, but it's a good start. Just wanted to share, if anyone would like to see pics of any specific one that can be accomplished relatively easily.

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Even found a couple canvas oil bottle pouches during my searches.
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Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: carls sks on October 18, 2016, 04:46:27 PM
very cool, thanks for sharing.  thumb1
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on October 18, 2016, 10:01:34 PM
Wow....   Are these 'all' for the sks?  How would one even know? 

Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: Phosphorus32 on October 19, 2016, 01:56:39 AM
30...and a dozen to go! Man, I had no idea there were so many variations. I like the one that looks like an American 1 gallon gas can, miniaturized.

油 = oil

碱 = alkali

I see the canvas pouch on the left says Type 56 and the one on the right says Type 53. I guess you'll need a Chinese Mosin carbine to go with that one  rofl Don't tell Running Man that I said that

Great stuff  thumb1
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: running-man on October 19, 2016, 08:25:22 AM
I see the canvas pouch on the left says Type 56 and the one on the right says Type 53. I guess you'll need a Chinese Mosin carbine to go with that one  rofl Don't tell Running Man that I said that

Why I outta!  bat1

chuckles1  Very neat collection Greg!  How many of the bottles have triangle arsenal stamps on them? 
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: gregsthe1 on October 19, 2016, 09:22:42 AM
Most are for Type 53, Type 56 semiautomatic (SKS), and Type 56 assault rifle (AK47). A couple of the big ones were represented as being for "squad level weapons", so I'm guessing something maybe larger or a mounted weapon of some kind.

Of the 5 green star bottles, the one on the lower left has /316\ on the cap. None of the other bottles has a factory logo on them.

Here is a link to a page with good pictures of many of the ones I have here. From that I see there is about another 10 or so that I need, though I have a few that are not pictured here so who knows... maybe there is like 60 or 100 different ones out there!
http://www.browningmgs.com/OilBottles/OB.htm
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on October 19, 2016, 11:29:24 AM
Thats a great link I have not seen before!

Think you can get me a front and back group pics of all chinese sks bottles for me to put up on the guide?
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: gregsthe1 on October 19, 2016, 12:36:34 PM
Would be happy to, but I'm not sure which ones would have been issued with an SKS and which ones would have been issued with an AK. The metal ones are obviously Mosin because they are the earliest, though I'm sure early on both the AK47 and SKS may have been handed out with a few metal bottles included to use up stock. The round plastic (green and white) with characters on them would be the next in line say 60's into the 70's at least, and all of the unmarked would be late model 80's and up. The progression over time is easy to see, however trying to figure out which one would have been issued with what rifle at what time is a crap shoot. As we all know slings, pouches, oilers (probably), parts, and even furniture got swapped all the time depending on production region and contract needs/shortages.

If you know of any that you believe were SKS issued just let me know and I can take better pics of whichever ones you'd like...
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on October 19, 2016, 03:41:53 PM
I don't know...  :-\

Maybe just the ones you think are 1956 and newer?

Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: gregsthe1 on October 19, 2016, 03:52:52 PM
That would be the plastic ones I suppose. I can get you some pictures of front and back of each one, it'll just take me a bit.

I'll reach out to you once I get a collection of pics and we can go from there!
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on October 19, 2016, 07:09:38 PM
That would be the plastic ones I suppose. I can get you some pictures of front and back of each one, it'll just take me a bit.

I'll reach out to you once I get a collection of pics and we can go from there!

Nah....  Too many pics.  Just do a front and back group shot.   thumb1
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: gregsthe1 on October 19, 2016, 08:31:28 PM
Roger that.

I'll take the time to get a few good pictures of all the plastic ones and get them to you as soon as time allows.
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: Justin Hell on October 22, 2016, 10:56:44 PM
Referencing that page's numbers.  I have a #1 China I was always curious about. It has the two spouts, but there is no divider to separate the liquids inside.

Is that normal?
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: gregsthe1 on October 31, 2016, 12:19:31 PM
Referencing that page's numbers.  I have a #1 China I was always curious about. It has the two spouts, but there is no divider to separate the liquids inside.

Is that normal?

Never seen one with it's divider removed, though I'm sure desperate times call for desperate measures. Wouldn't surprise me if it was a field modification as I'm sure things like that were done a lot.

Here is a pic I found of a square one where one spout was removed and capped for some reason and I'm confident the divider was removed from it also or it wouldn't make sense to have done it:
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L}{C- Sorry for the delay on the oil bottle group pic. I actually found 9 more different plastic ones, three arrived over the weekend and the other six just showed up! Once I get some good pics I'll get them to you asap!!
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: Justin Hell on October 31, 2016, 05:49:12 PM
Referencing that page's numbers.  I have a #1 China I was always curious about. It has the two spouts, but there is no divider to separate the liquids inside.

Is that normal?

Never seen one with it's divider removed, though I'm sure desperate times call for desperate measures. Wouldn't surprise me if it was a field modification as I'm sure things like that were done a lot.

Here is a pic I found of a square one where one spout was removed and capped for some reason and I'm confident the divider was removed from it also or it wouldn't make sense to have done it:
(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah148/gregfinton/123456_zps4p467foq.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/gregfinton/media/123456_zps4p467foq.jpg.html)


I don't see how it could have possibly been removed, it appears as if it was just made that way. Whether it was a mistake or by design is my question now I suppose.  think1

Perhaps they just skipped one vital fluid at some point?

It would be interesting if anyone else has one like that, or bothered to check...it was my first one, so I just thought for the longest time that was how they were. It seems like a pretty common marking on it.
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on October 31, 2016, 08:16:13 PM
Excellent!   
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: gregsthe1 on November 10, 2016, 10:32:35 AM
Think you can get me a front and back group pics of all chinese sks bottles for me to put up on the guide?

Will these work? I tried taking a few pics in the shade but they were even more difficult to see, especially the white ones. Only way to get clear views of their markings is to go up close. Anyway, if these suck too much let me know and I'll try setting up some lights indoors to see if I can get some better ones for you...

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Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on November 10, 2016, 09:58:34 PM
Hey now..   thumb1

Looks great.  Ill try and get them on the guide soon.  Thanks a bunch.   :)
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: newchi on February 23, 2017, 07:40:25 PM
Heres one you dont have
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Surplus-Russia-Soviet-Military-Army-AK-Oiler-Bottle-Box-L1076-/172527847198?hash=item282b76071e:g:bRcAAOSwAuZX4s3e
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: gregsthe1 on February 23, 2017, 08:29:34 PM
That's because it's Russian. Or Polish or Bulgarian or Romanian or some other country, but it's not Chinese so that's why I don't have it.

I've been busy and have almost doubled my collection since the last pics were taken. Up to 53 different Chinese oilers. I plan to update this thread with some new pics in the next few weeks...
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on February 23, 2017, 08:46:24 PM
Any of thes new ones for the sks that you know of?
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: gregsthe1 on February 23, 2017, 08:56:05 PM
Any of thes new ones for the sks that you know of?

For sure! The updated pics will please you too :)
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on February 23, 2017, 09:17:59 PM
 :))

Ok
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: newchi on February 23, 2017, 09:47:40 PM
oh, duh.  I was thinking 3 as in factory 3 or something as it was being sold from china.  But probably Z.  doh. ::)
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: gregsthe1 on March 01, 2017, 04:23:11 PM
I am in the process of getting another dozen or so that I currently do not have from a contact in China dance2  Really neat ones too, but it'll be a month at least before I see them arrive so my update pics will be put back a little more.

Sorry for the delay, they are worth the wait...
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: gregsthe1 on April 03, 2017, 10:01:28 AM
Here is a teaser pic:

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah148/gregfinton/20170329_054009_zpspzpvuyvt.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/gregfinton/media/20170329_054009_zpspzpvuyvt.jpg.html)

I have found so many Chinese oilers my head is spinning. Pictured is 77 different examples, and I'm still waiting on another 25 from China. My most recent purchase of 7 took place this morning, so it'll be another month before they arrive...  Once they show up I'll get some good detailed pics of each to share thumb1
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: Power Surge on April 03, 2017, 10:36:24 PM
Hey I have one of those..... just one, lmao.
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: Phosphorus32 on April 04, 2017, 01:08:31 AM
102 is a lot  :o But then you consider that's only 1 different type of oil bottle for every 10,000,000 Chinese (ca. 1980)  :))
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on April 04, 2017, 01:29:57 AM
 drool2

Your an animal!!!     The dedication you put into this collection is remarkable.    thumb1
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: newchi on April 16, 2017, 04:35:11 PM
Well that makes my little collection (<10) of soviet ones look silly.
I hope when the others arrive there will be explanations of the differences for the rest of us.
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: gregsthe1 on April 17, 2017, 09:36:27 AM
I hope when the others arrive there will be explanations of the differences for the rest of us.

A majority of the differences will be obvious (caps, colors, and markings), but a few are only slightly different so I will do my best to point those out. My Chinese source has been nice enough to translate most of them for me so I will be happy to describe some of the characters on them too if someone is curious.

Got a few more in over the weekend but still a couple weeks out on the rest whistle12
Title: Re: Chinese oil bottle collection
Post by: gregsthe1 on June 29, 2017, 09:50:49 AM
I still plan on photographing all of these, but there are so damn many it will be quite an undertaking. Plus I'd like to find one or two more from my list before I start. Hopefully soon, but as of now TBD.

Think I'm up to 130 or 140, lost count...