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SKS Carbines => Unaltered SKS Rifles => Romanian SKS => Topic started by: Phosphorus32 on January 29, 2022, 08:13:53 PM

Title: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Phosphorus32 on January 29, 2022, 08:13:53 PM
From the year that the WWII-era occupation of Romania ended by the Soviets, a nice little Romanian SKS in a dark red stock reminiscent of a Soviet SKS-45 stock, but it's clearly the original numbered Romanian beech stock.

This is an online auction score from a couple of weeks ago that arrived Thursday. Alas it has the often observed mismatched gas tube and gas piston. Nice that the handguard color is also dark to match the stock.

I took pictures yesterday and had to use the flash for the closeups of the serial numbers, even though it was 1.5 hours before sunset. The cloud layer gets very thick here in the winter sometimes  :o

(https://i.ibb.co/vw2XLCJ/01-right-full.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dWnmksQ)

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(https://i.ibb.co/K5bskH4/03-right.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7Sjp5FM)

(https://i.ibb.co/L63srMk/04-right.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XpqGD92)

(https://i.ibb.co/jGyvGzx/05-right.jpg) (https://ibb.co/92b92hf)

(https://i.ibb.co/WVx4C0j/06-left-full.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dmWwZtx)

(https://i.ibb.co/Qr8cvQ0/07-left.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zG85Vxd)

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(https://i.ibb.co/YL7Zwsg/09-left.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1mf6jWc)

(https://i.ibb.co/mqXSHSd/10-left.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3NMk0kV)

(https://i.ibb.co/wdX0w2f/11-top-rear.jpg) (https://ibb.co/K5k0L8J)

(https://i.ibb.co/42pHTfg/12-top-mid.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RNcq0S4)

(https://i.ibb.co/xSdnMNf/13-top-forward.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VW5FvsQ)

(https://i.ibb.co/mtVv9BK/14-SN-receiver.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0ZRBCXL)

(https://i.ibb.co/PxGWKdD/15-SN-rec-cover.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XXx51qY)

(https://i.ibb.co/N3cym1Z/16-SN-mag.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1nFmds8)

(https://i.ibb.co/L82qmwV/17-SN-tg.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9NCf6XQ)

(https://i.ibb.co/LYLC2Yy/18-SN-bolt-carrier.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TYVHFYG)

(https://i.ibb.co/cYzTLkW/19-SN-bolt.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dmnKgjN)

(https://i.ibb.co/64k0LF7/20-SNs-gas-piston-and-tube.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tb9pFDT)

(https://i.ibb.co/Dwnv3fg/21-SN-stock.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kqFwY26)

(https://i.ibb.co/fn9TtYH/22-SN-rear-sight.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cCwstcQ)

Yum, grease!  :)
(https://i.ibb.co/jVKSQY5/23-piston-grease.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TKXs7GT)
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: BMont on January 29, 2022, 09:19:39 PM
Nice snag man.... sweet little Romey.  I really like mine and your snagged a good one.
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Phosphorus32 on January 29, 2022, 10:17:19 PM
Nice snag man.... sweet little Romey.  I really like mine and your snagged a good one.

Thanks man! I just need a 1959, and I'll have all 4 years. This is definitely my nicest looking one, although my first (1957) is a favorite shooter and like this one just has the mismatched gas piston and tube.
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Greasemonkey on January 30, 2022, 01:06:21 AM
 rockon I'm just gonna say it.. it's a breath of fresh air to see something other than a Russian or a Chinese..   I thought all the Romanians we're gone.  :)  So, it's mismatched, that's socially acceptable in these ranks, can't see them numbers looking thru the sights anyway. And it still has the full shellac finish, one of mine has absolutely none remaining.

So.. uhm Phos, ol buddy... ol pal.. how's about sending that wonderous sexy hunk of Romanian goodness my way, no sense in letting it or any Romanian suffer and languish in such a cloudy dank environment.  thumb1

You knowed I was gonna ask..  :) 
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Bob_The_Student on January 30, 2022, 04:57:11 AM
That's a one of the nicer '58's I have seen. Congrats! And you should send it to me I hear that my 2nd cousin on my Mom's side used to carry that rifle. To prove it, I can tell you that it's the "rare knife model" not many Romanian SKS's had the "rare/scarce knife" attached. My Mom's cousin did that, Thanks for understanding I will PM my address.  :)
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: echo1 on January 30, 2022, 08:22:34 AM
That's a really nice one. Good going Phos clap1 PAX
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Phosphorus32 on January 30, 2022, 05:24:20 PM
rockon I'm just gonna say it.. it's a breath of fresh air to see something other than a Russian or a Chinese..   I thought all the Romanians we're gone.  :)  So, it's mismatched, that's socially acceptable in these ranks, can't see them numbers looking thru the sights anyway. And it still has the full shellac finish, one of mine has absolutely none remaining.

So.. uhm Phos, ol buddy... ol pal.. how's about sending that wonderous sexy hunk of Romanian goodness my way, no sense in letting it or any Romanian suffer and languish in such a cloudy dank environment.  thumb1

You knowed I was gonna ask..  :)

Definitely a nice firearm produced by the people of Romania back in the not so good old days

(https://i.ibb.co/H40GhBf/Flag-of-Romania-1952-1965-svg.png) (https://ibb.co/B3mTnc5)

Have no fear, it's supposed to be sunny the next couple of days, so it'll be okay here after all, but thanks for caring  :) chuckles1
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Phosphorus32 on January 30, 2022, 05:26:44 PM
That's a one of the nicer '58's I have seen. Congrats! And you should send it to me I hear that my 2nd cousin on my Mom's side used to carry that rifle. To prove it, I can tell you that it's the "rare knife model" not many Romanian SKS's had the "rare/scarce knife" attached. My Mom's cousin did that, Thanks for understanding I will PM my address.  :)

Thanks a bunch Bob!  thumb1 It's definitely the nicest of my Romanian trio.

"Rare knife model" Yeah, that's a classic  chuckles1

It's great to hear about the family connection. I'll be sure to honor it by keeping it safe and warm in my gun room  :) 8)
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Phosphorus32 on January 30, 2022, 05:27:12 PM
That's a really nice one. Good going Phos clap1 PAX

Thanks PAX!  thumb1 8)
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Greasemonkey on January 30, 2022, 09:34:49 PM
Not so good old days..  rofl  oh come on.. it's hard to top a rifle from the country of 'ol Vlad Țepeș.

If there's one country I have to visit before I leave this hunk a rock, it's Romania.  Maybe a side trip to Czechoslovakia..   but, Romania is in my bucket list.
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Boris Badinov on January 30, 2022, 11:52:02 PM
That's just gorgeous, phos.

Nice catch!

IMHO, the ep serials on the piston and tube are anon-issue. I've got a 1960 beauty queen in a similar matching state.

I really like the even dark finish too.

Is there an EP on the butt plat
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: echo1 on January 31, 2022, 12:16:10 AM
Not so good old days..  rofl  oh come on.. it's hard to top a rifle from the country of 'ol Vlad Țepeș.

If there's one country I have to visit before I leave this hunk a rock, it's Romania.  Maybe a side trip to Czechoslovakia..   but, Romania is in my bucket list.

When I was in dairy, the VP took a group of engineers to Romania and built 2 pasteurizing facilities somewhere remote. 3 weeks and they were out of there. PAX
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Phosphorus32 on January 31, 2022, 09:45:15 AM
That's just gorgeous, phos.

Nice catch!

IMHO, the ep serials on the piston and tube are anon-issue. I've got a 1960 beauty queen in a similar matching state.

I really like the even dark finish too.

Is there an EP on the butt plate

Thanks Boris! I do like the looks of this one. I'm definitely not crying over the mismatched gas tube and piston  :))  I've come to expect that with the Romanians. My 1957 is in the same situation. My 1960 is a mixmaster rescue.

No EP on the buttplate but it does have a cleaning kit tucked inside.
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Boris Badinov on January 31, 2022, 11:15:15 AM
I am not familiar with the minutiae of cleaning kit variations. Do you have any idea if the kit is uniquely Romanian? 
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: running-man on January 31, 2022, 05:14:57 PM
Bah horsetrash gun because of that mismatch.  I'll take it off your hands for a couple hundred bucks out of the goodness of my heart.  GM doesn't need yet another Romy, he has too many as it is!  rofl

That's a very nice one P32!  Did you just happen upon it on the broker, or how did it catch your eye?
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Phosphorus32 on January 31, 2022, 05:52:47 PM
I am not familiar with the minutiae of cleaning kit variations. Do you have any idea if the kit is uniquely Romanian?

I'm not an expert on cleaning kits either. There are three small to tiny markings. One looks like it could be an incomplete Cugir triangle, but if it is, it was struck extremely offset on the curved surface, I'm about 10% certain it's a Cugir marking. The other two are no help at all but don't appear to be Cyrillic, so that suggests they aren't Russian.
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Phosphorus32 on January 31, 2022, 06:01:35 PM
Bah horsetrash gun because of that mismatch.  I'll take it off your hands for a couple hundred bucks out of the goodness of my heart.  GM doesn't need yet another Romy, he has too many as it is!  rofl

That's a very nice one P32!  Did you just happen upon it on the broker, or how did it catch your eye?

Quite a generous offer RM, though it may be quite a bit less than I paid for it  ;) rofl

Thanks! I got it off of Proxibid (Montrose Auctions). It was quite a bit less than I'd expect to pay on GunBroker for one in this condition. It's hard to find really serious bargains these days, but I'm very happy with this one for a couple of movie tickets shy of six Benjamins.
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Greasemonkey on January 31, 2022, 10:25:55 PM
Too many Romanians...  nea1 that's like too many Mosins, too many bullets, too many Acuras..it just ain't possible...

I'll see RM's offer and up it a Benjamin, a 1/2 a mason jar of uhm.. err... well, jet fuel and 16 freshly emptied 45-70 cases..  they still have that black powder smell.  :)

Proxibid bla bla.. bahhh who needs that, we got the Files.  rofl rofl2
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Direct Connection on March 26, 2022, 05:27:58 PM
Thats all candy right there Phos.  Those were my favorites in that group with that darker color. Many sold from AIM back 2010 11 somewhere in there and im sure you remember. But not in that condition!! Must not have seen the trench !!  Nice addition and a tint of added aroma to the surplus room  :) thumb1  I missed that one. Looks like you posted awhile ago. Im missing the 57.
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: firstchoice on March 26, 2022, 07:52:05 PM
Like DC, I somehow missed this post back in January. Nice catch Phos!  thumb1

I'm not seeing many of the Romy's offered anymore. Great to see a member here finding one of the nicer ones. That stock color is awesome!

firstchoice
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Phosphorus32 on March 26, 2022, 08:16:20 PM
Thanks DC and FC.

Had it out to the range yesterday. Windage was spot on but holy cow it was shooting high. I didn’t have a sight tool with me so I’ll have to adjust it another day.
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Direct Connection on March 26, 2022, 09:04:50 PM
Like DC, I somehow missed this post back in January. Nice catch Phos!  thumb1

I'm not seeing many of the Romy's offered anymore. Great to see a member here finding one of the nicer ones. That stock color is awesome!

firstchoice

I think this calls for a second round of pictures since these are old now : ) Yeah not many Romy's offered these days and even them days they were grabbed up fast.

I always wonder how they made that dark stock color so dark. Almost like a pine tar base with shellac finish. IDK but they sure are cool and very easy to identify  :)
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Phosphorus32 on March 26, 2022, 09:14:59 PM
Looks like the wood was stained reddish brown on this one and then coated with garnet shellac, I would guess, for a deep reddish brown finish. There was quite a bit of variation in Romanian stock colors. Always beech wood, but different colors.
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Direct Connection on March 26, 2022, 10:25:45 PM
Here's a couple 1960's I picked up from AIM back in 2010. No cleaning rods,  metal parts don't match and stocks were rough. 299.00 back then and they went fast. But the dark finish is present as yours. Just not half as nice. Warriors ! They look good with the shinny metal and they smell even better rofl2. Later I found their slings. Use to shoot them all the time.

I have a question. When storing, does it matter if the trigger is released or meaning should they be dry fired before storing ? Always wondered. especially with a Murrays firing pin.
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Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Phosphorus32 on March 27, 2022, 08:13:07 AM
DC those are two very nice looking Romanians  thumb

I tend to dry fire, then store my SKSs. Same with my Mausers, Mosins, Enfields etc. I won’t swear that it’s the right way but it seems like good practice to me from a safety perspective and secondarily due to the release of spring compression.
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: running-man on March 27, 2022, 09:38:06 AM
Nice Romys KK!  I got one from AIM, but it was back in 2004 when they got a tiny shipment in and I didn’t want to miss out as it was one of the nationalities I hadn’t obtained yet.  I think it was $200 which was a bit pricey considering the Yugos that were flooding the market were $139.00.  rofl

I always keep my SKS stored with the hammer down too. I also flip the safety on, but that’s just a quirk of mine. I’ve heard the arguments about relieving the tension in the springs too but IMO they don’t hold much water.  A well engineered and fabricated coil spring doesn’t fatigue like a flat spring (like those used in magazines) is wont to do.
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Direct Connection on March 27, 2022, 10:26:41 AM
Good info to know and thanks you guys.  thumb1.. Yeah RM you been at it a lot longer then I have because those prices are ridiculous rofl Only if we knew then what we know now we could all be kings with crates :) I love AIM ! They are hall of fame material in my book : )

Phos, next time you take the Romanian family out for coffee and photos it never hurts to take a few family pics.

Long Live the Romanian SkS
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Greatguns on March 27, 2022, 10:57:41 AM
If dry firing is a concern you can always buy some dummy rounds to protect your bolt/firing pin. I saw some on GB in 7.62x39 for around $15.99 w/free shipping.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/927153162
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Direct Connection on March 27, 2022, 11:19:58 AM
If dry firing is a concern you can always buy some dummy rounds to protect your bolt/firing pin. I saw some on GB in 7.62x39 for around $15.99 w/free shipping.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/927153162

Thanks GG. Good to know..  I need a sight adjust tool that will fit through the circle for high and low adjustments. Every time I buy one the base is to fat and cant fit through the circle to hook the top sight or the tool isnt long enough. If you have one and it works for you send the link for that same one. I know you got everything : ) rofl thumb1
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Worm on March 27, 2022, 11:53:07 AM
That’s gorgeous
Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Greatguns on March 27, 2022, 01:00:29 PM
If dry firing is a concern you can always buy some dummy rounds to protect your bolt/firing pin. I saw some on GB in 7.62x39 for around $15.99 w/free shipping.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/927153162

Thanks GG. Good to know..  I need a sight adjust tool that will fit through the circle for high and low adjustments. Every time I buy one the base is to fat and cant fit through the circle to hook the top sight or the tool isnt long enough. If you have one and it works for you send the link for that same one. I know you got everything : ) rofl thumb1

Wonder if you are getting one specific to AK-47s??? Anyway, one I have that works well I can't find any like it. The other is an old Polytech tool that can be found either on GB via Keng's or on the poly store site. This is the cheapest. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/927037198

This one is pretty much the same https://www.gunbroker.com/item/925844146

AIM Sports tool https://www.gunbroker.com/item/926787645

Then there are these, f you only need something for elevation;

Russian tool(not the real expensive one) https://www.gunbroker.com/item/923871522

Tapco tool https://www.gunbroker.com/item/925976321

Title: Re: 1958 Romanian
Post by: Direct Connection on March 29, 2022, 09:00:25 PM
GreatGuns thank you for the links. I bought the factory Russian adjuster you posted since they've been taking a beating letely by little brother : ) rofl2

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/923871522