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SKS Carbines => Altered SKS Rifles => Projects => Topic started by: Greatguns on September 15, 2020, 08:13:21 PM
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I REALLLLY wanted to save this one for last, but I am a) on a roll, and b) still waiting for the 4th one to show up from USPS limbo. SO, here ya go, a GB purchase 1950 Tula heavy refurb(all the BBQ, but better than most) set in a, yep you got it, Combat Exchange Ultra-lite folding stock. Fortunately for me the previous owner left the laminated HG on the gas tube and I was able to find a scrubbed laminated stock from our northern neighbors that matches pretty well. Numbers matching except stock, but you can't see a number on the stock so we have that at least. Otherwise, just missing mag pouches and a cleaning kit.(I have a CCCP oiler bottle). To put it to my liking I have purchased an early Russian blued blade bayonet to give this the "dark-side" effect that I will replace the current one with. Oh, and yes it does have the correct spring loaded firing pin.
Before and After(to date) pics for your viewing pleasure;
(https://i.ibb.co/xCkchWj/92-ADD9-CF-6-C39-4-B7-E-A385-CCADE7322-A7-F-1-201-a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r7jLkY6)
(https://i.ibb.co/GVBpLp8/C8-BCA20-A-8-CE3-40-B9-A134-175-C56-CFF508.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CnN8Z8Y)
(https://i.ibb.co/qRqcC05/E8283-F0-A-3-A3-E-43-F2-BFB8-F921-BD389142.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HrwbCNd)
(https://i.ibb.co/NVmJ1pG/9-B16-C04-A-5-F59-4054-813-B-D22649-D7-F6-AB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xCfBmGr)
(https://i.ibb.co/BN8qVSp/F9-FB125-E-1965-4943-A22-F-8-FA06-E378-CFF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wsDMNxk)
(https://i.ibb.co/T0CJL5y/A480-A19-A-7941-4245-A119-7257-C4433880.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qgZh5w6)
(https://i.ibb.co/cXmJPXJ/9-C3-FF0-C0-F6-A6-4-E28-9-F84-0-BF6447-ADEAB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/93MnJ3n)
(https://i.ibb.co/8gTf9gp/B1594-BF8-2089-46-BE-9-EF9-336503-B70-A18.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HT1bqTs)
(https://i.ibb.co/zR49WZn/7-A8563-E6-C299-48-F2-8-BF9-75-CACF5-F410-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vPjyCkw)
(https://i.ibb.co/16XbYw6/5-C5-A70-FD-DC01-4885-842-F-6-B8053-F37965.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ry67GVy)
(https://i.ibb.co/ByhtjyF/A6850923-C6-C2-4-BBF-B560-F07-C6-E52-C1-AE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LxT86xH)
(https://i.ibb.co/B3X6fsF/8113-D9-F8-AD68-4-B62-9187-002-BF9-FAC279.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dMdpfKx)
The ammo pouch is my daughter's I found for her a long time ago. If anyone has a line on 2 of these let me know please. Also, you may notice the HG is glossy and the main body is matte. Opinions on whether I should steel wool the finish on the HG to match the stock or put a gloss finish on the stock. I do kind of like the matte finish, but realize refurb norm was more towards the gloss finish.
(https://i.ibb.co/YLNcy3P/1-AE1060-C-9996-484-B-97-AF-6-BC02-CBB0-D0-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MCgcGsZ)
(https://i.ibb.co/CJ9jbhJ/BD999-FB4-160-F-42-DA-B3-BE-48-CC8-A17-CAB1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KNst2FN)
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ФН is a known 1950 prefix. That's consistent with the 45 degree gas block, spring loaded firing pin, bolt and rear sight base among the early features that are visible in your photos.
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ФН is a known 1950 prefix. That's consistent with the 45 degree gas block, spring loaded firing pin, bolt and rear sight base among the early features that are visible in your photos.
Thanks for the info Phos. I think I'm going to come out alright on all three of these after I get all the aftermarket stuff I took off of them sold.
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Sweet! drool2
Aside from the brake, that is almost identical to a 50 I saw on FB today...and you did almost precisely what I told the poster he should do.
I gotta get one of these someday.
Can't wait to see it with the new bayonet...did you check to see if this one is staked though?
While you are searching for the ammo pouches, keep an eye peeled for an early Russian sling too, they aren't very common to find, but they are out there. The leather is stitched in rather than riveted, and aside from being period correct, are a bit easier on the blueing and shellac. Wish I could help on the pouches, but I have the two I need for mine only. Is your daughter's one of the naval ones?
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Sweet! drool2
Aside from the brake, that is almost identical to a 50 I saw on FB today...and you did almost precisely what I told the poster he should do.
I gotta get one of these someday.
Can't wait to see it with the new bayonet...did you check to see if this one is staked though?
While you are searching for the ammo pouches, keep an eye peeled for an early Russian sling too, they aren't very common to find, but they are out there. The leather is stitched in rather than riveted, and aside from being period correct, are a bit easier on the blueing and shellac. Wish I could help on the pouches, but I have the two I need for mine only. Is your daughter's one of the naval ones?
Yeah, I looked and couldn't find an earlier sling, but this was a good price so grabbed it. And yes, my daughter's pouch is a Navy pouch. Could have bought 10 when I got that one. Hindsight, it's always perfect, LOL.
On the Bayonet, I did see stake marks on the FSB, but haven't checked closely to see if someone else had already popped them or not.
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I had one of those folding stocks on a D, it was great and perfect for a truck gun but too long for me.
Interesting info about the 1950 model, there is much I have to learn.
I don't have an SKS with a ply stock, I will have to get one.
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I had one of those folding stocks on a D, it was great and perfect for a truck gun but too long for me.
Interesting info about the 1950 model, there is much I have to learn.
I don't have an SKS with a ply stock, I will have to get one.
I picked this stock up on gunbroker from a guy in BC, and yeah, you have to be on the larger side for the LOP to work with those Ultra-lite stocks.
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The best for last. PAX
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The best for last. PAX
I knew you'd like this one. Was trying to catch up to your posts to say "wait til you see the Russian" LOL. I have 1 more coming in, but that one is going synthetic.(I think)
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The facepalm bayonet came in today so I got it swapped out. And Justin, just so you know, yes the bayonet screw was staked, but as it turns out someone had already backed it out. Came out with little effort.
And, thanks to Justin, I now have an early Russian Black Navy SKS sling coming for it.
(https://i.ibb.co/9yrtf1w/F017-F7-EC-1825-4512-B847-8-D3-EFB24-F146-1-201-a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7r14TZg)
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Ahhhh, but it looks so very perfect. Love it!! clap1
I am glad you were able to fit a paratrooper bayonet on so nicely. I will now start looking for a black parachute for you. rofl
Did it also have a straight collar handle? Were you able to tuck the stake marks back into place with adequate tightness?
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GG, if you ever sell that blued bayonet, I'm your man! Looks great!
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That really looks good.
I put a black bayo on a black T6 rifle for a bit, then changed it out for a long Yugo, and put the black Russian on an Izzy. PAX
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Ahhhh, but it looks so very perfect. Love it!! clap1
I am glad you were able to fit a paratrooper bayonet on so nicely. I will now start looking for a black parachute for you. rofl
Did it also have a straight collar handle? Were you able to tuck the stake marks back into place with adequate tightness?
Yes, everything was all present and correct on the incoming bayonet for my 1950 Russian. Didn't look at the staking to see if I got it lined back up correctly. Making note to do that in the AM.
As for the black parachute, YES. My wife can make a mourning/funeral dress out of it for when she kills me after finding out how much money I've been spending on SKSs this month. rofl rofl rofl chuckles1 chuckles1
On a more serious note, thanks guys. I'll post another pic up when the black Navy sling arrives.
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Alas, all I could find are parachute bags, all green....and buttloads of 'jump pins' commemorating number of jump goals.
Also it appears as the the SKS wasn't used by the paratroopers at all. You got rooked! chuckles1
They apparently used AK-74Ms, AK-12s, RPKs, PKMs, Dragunovs, among other things that must have been as much for ballast as the soldier was. :P
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Alas, all I could find are parachute bags, all green....and buttloads of 'jump pins' commemorating number of jump goals.
Also it appears as the the SKS wasn't used by the paratroopers at all. You got rooked! chuckles1
They apparently used AK-74Ms, AK-12s, RPKs, PKMs, Dragunovs, among other things that must have been as much for ballast as the soldier was. :P
And here I was waiting for the "couldn't find a Black Parachute because the Navy didn't use them, but here's a black life preserver" joke!! rofl rofl
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Alas, all I could find are parachute bags, all green....and buttloads of 'jump pins' commemorating number of jump goals.
Also it appears as the the SKS wasn't used by the paratroopers at all. You got rooked! chuckles1
They apparently used AK-74Ms, AK-12s, RPKs, PKMs, Dragunovs, among other things that must have been as much for ballast as the soldier was. :P
And here I was waiting for the "couldn't find a Black Parachute because the Navy didn't use them, but here's a black life preserver" joke!! rofl rofl
Better than the wife finding out and throwing you off the nearest cliff to see if it worked. chuckles1
If she get's grumpy, and when you are done if there is any Russian Navy SKS stuff left........... rofl
I will perhaps go Navy for mine too.
Have you found a proper 1950 cleaning kit yet? They are different from 49 kits, and subsequent kits... I swear, I am not joshing you. :)
It's very slight...but my Russian friend Vadim sent me a 49 when the best he had was a 50 at the time...along with a spare pin, minus the spring though unfortunately.
Actually, it was his daughter Polina who sent it...which I found odd, and never heard back from either of them again when thanking her/them. Seriously...not kidding.
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Got my Black Navy SKS sling from the Ukraine today. took less than 2 weeks to get here. Also came with a free Russian rubber band(see 2nd pic) chuckles1 chuckles1
(https://i.ibb.co/Qj5g1kK/9599-AC09-1-F4-C-47-F5-A203-5-C514-A078-D8-A-1-201-a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YTrCqXL)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZWZ3vJL/45-DAC62-E-A8-F6-4615-9-E57-A76-BD3629-F0-D-1-201-a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Bq1mvPz)
One step closer to, as Justin put it, my Naval Commisar SKS! Sling is 1952 stamped, but it's a lot closer than the green one was.
(https://i.ibb.co/brW6rCD/4829-E7-E5-D78-C-4470-B681-D4-A5-E21-C2613-1-201-a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8jKmjft)
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Der Justin approves.
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That looks really nice!
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Der Justin approves.
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That looks really nice!
Yep, that's a heck of a rubber band ain't it? all the way from Ukraine. rofl rofl
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I am actually surprised it is dated that late considering how it is made...perhaps the naval surplus gives a better timeline of how long that style was made, possibly more of them were left unused. Then again, that recent CIA thing kind of makes it seem like a lot of what was going on may have been a few years later than we suspected. For that report to be so incorrect/incomplete four years after main production started....it seems like Russia must have been stockpiling for awhile before even issuing these, I mean...it was technically peacetime.
The photo I have of cadets marching exclusively with SKS spikers in 1958 makes me wonder just how long it was before the SKS was even put to use. Perhaps the BBQ paint was just easier to DUST than bluing? rofl
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Okay, finally got my accessories in from Ukraine and Russia and made a swap with my daughter to secure the black ammo pouch. I made time today to get some pics of my finished product. So, without further delay, I give you;
The 1950 Russian Type-45 SKS Naval Commissar Edition
(https://i.ibb.co/5FY7DsR/24-EDFAFC-FFA2-48-A5-8-E0-A-004-AE1034159-1-201-a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fv8cRrx)
(https://i.ibb.co/cQtrwNy/5063-BCC8-FF28-4521-9-CCE-09-A2-A238-BA32-1-201-a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rHMw3ZQ)
(https://i.ibb.co/Bnd3NmY/99623-B9-C-D8-B8-40-C8-B566-678909-F1-D184-1-201-a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LNbR5Ms)
(https://i.ibb.co/HDdr2Rt/7-B3-A1-C29-ED77-4-B47-AB4-F-DBF9303827-D4-1-201-a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wNsKL8S)
(https://i.ibb.co/TBKmGFt/6055-C732-AE1-C-42-E5-A9-A9-5578-B20-A205-A-1-201-a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ns3zy5j)
(https://i.ibb.co/M2bQMSd/B8160-BF6-86-A3-4-D17-BDFD-142647-A65-A37-1-201-a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2nwHghJ)
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Awesome! The whole package really looks great!
I trust that is hull piercing ammo right? :P
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Nice looking rig! thumb1
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Wow.
What a set up! Well done, GG.
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Awesome! The whole package really looks great!
I trust that is hull piercing ammo right? :P
I do have a bit of that yes, LOL.
And, for public record, Justin gets credit for the "Naval Commisar" title. thumb1
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Thanks everybody for the nice comments. Couldn't have pulled it off without the ENABLERS!! rofl rofl
On a side note, if I threw this up on GB as an "official Naval rifle" 1)how many slams, and 2)how much $$$, do you think it would bring.
(Not that I'm selling it, because my daughter already claimed it in her inheritance.) Maybe that's why she was so willing to give up the pouch; she knew she'd get it back. rofl rofl
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Looooking Goooood, GG! thumb1
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Would look good with one of these ushankas to go with it...
(https://canary.contestimg.wish.com/api/webimage/5b2b3f4a839ed20e9607b7b9-2-large.jpg)
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Would look good with one of these ushankas to go with it...
(https://canary.contestimg.wish.com/api/webimage/5b2b3f4a839ed20e9607b7b9-2-large.jpg)
Da Comrade, dat whould make goot addityion. rofl rofl
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A proper enabler would include a link. rofl
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A proper enabler would include a link. rofl
rofl clap1 rofl
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A proper enabler would include a link. rofl
I know, right?!
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ok,here;https://www.ebay.com/itm/Russian-Soviet-black-winter-soldier-Army-Hat-Ushanka-/254502467532 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Russian-Soviet-black-winter-soldier-Army-Hat-Ushanka-/254502467532) You are now enabled... thankyou1 chuckles1
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Added to watchlist...so I know when caving happens. rofl2
I am gonna start looking for unused inflatable life rafts next.
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ok,here;https://www.ebay.com/itm/Russian-Soviet-black-winter-soldier-Army-Hat-Ushanka-/254502467532 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Russian-Soviet-black-winter-soldier-Army-Hat-Ushanka-/254502467532) You are now enabled... thankyou1 chuckles1
You are now officially in the Enablers Club BZ, welcome aboard, LOL.
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I was looking at them and realized the pin is wrong, it is Army. This is the one I need(with correct Soviet Navy pin)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/USHANKA-Russian-Winter-Hat-Military-Style-Soviet-Navy-Badge-size-L-BLACK/352177547199?hash=item51ff6ae7bf:g:36IAAOxyLNpSHRwm
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Nice,even better.I also have a genuine Ukrainian ushanka given to me by a friend from there who immigrated here a long time ago.
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Some interesting stuff here: https://www.sovietmilitarystuff.com/soviet-hats/soviet-army-russian-naval-officer-fur-winter-black-hat-ushanka-earflaps.html
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Some interesting stuff here: https://www.sovietmilitarystuff.com/soviet-hats/soviet-army-russian-naval-officer-fur-winter-black-hat-ushanka-earflaps.html
For a minute there I thought you were going to send me to AliExpress. rofl rofl rofl
Nice,even better.I also have a genuine Ukrainian ushanka given to me by a friend from there who immigrated here a long time ago.
That's cool, In reality though, I doubt I'll buy one. Not like I'm going to make a display and not really cold enough to wear one here in south Kansas City. Buuuut, you never know I might change my mind, LOL.
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Some interesting stuff here: https://www.sovietmilitarystuff.com/soviet-hats/soviet-army-russian-naval-officer-fur-winter-black-hat-ushanka-earflaps.html
For a minute there I thought you were going to send me to AliExpress. rofl rofl rofl
Nice,even better.I also have a genuine Ukrainian ushanka given to me by a friend from there who immigrated here a long time ago.
That's cool, In reality though, I doubt I'll buy one. Not like I'm going to make a display and not really cold enough to wear one here in south Kansas City. Buuuut, you never know I might change my mind, LOL.
I never really put it together before, but I spent about a half a year not terribly far from you on the other side of the river in Pleasanton, KS. Awesome fishing in that part of the country.
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I never really put it together before, but I spent about a half a year not terribly far from you on the other side of the river in Pleasanton, KS. Awesome fishing in that part of the country.
Yeah, been through Pleasanton a few times. Got a step-brother that owns a fish bait and tackle shop in El Dorado Lake. He is always near the water, if not on it.
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I never really put it together before, but I spent about a half a year not terribly far from you on the other side of the river in Pleasanton, KS. Awesome fishing in that part of the country.
Yeah, been through Pleasanton a few times. Got a step-brother that owns a fish bait and tackle shop in El Dorado Lake. He is always near the water, if not on it.
Your step-brother is a lucky man.
I learned 3 things while fishing there:
1. Some of the best tasting sunnies are there.
b. Quicksand is nothing like the movies if you're careful.
3. Turtles....$%*#$@&$*@&% TURTLES!! They'll leave you a stringer full of heads.....
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You should try catching a turtle sometime, chuckles1
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You should try catching a turtle sometime, chuckles1
I've caught a few.
Not on purpose.