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SKS Carbines => Unaltered SKS Rifles => Russian SKS => Topic started by: theSKSguy45 on December 13, 2023, 08:53:04 PM

Title: 1951 Tula with golden bayonet
Post by: theSKSguy45 on December 13, 2023, 08:53:04 PM
My 1951 Tula. This guy came to me in a tapco stock and missing its bayonet (so technically it?s altered idk if it needs to be in the altered category or if it?s ok to be here). I bought the gold bayonet from the same guy I got my first 1949 from and the stock I sourced from a local store. Bolt and carrier are obviously scrubbed but everything else looks legit. I?ve heard that golden bayonets are original but personally I?m skeptical, any thoughts?



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(https://i.ibb.co/ftQpkv3/IMG-3188.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J2C7vQY)

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(https://i.ibb.co/mFYq5N4/IMG-3201.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XkdsxYt)

(https://i.ibb.co/vj4TkFx/IMG-3202.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6W0TFMR)

(https://i.ibb.co/DfW98KB/IMG-3200.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TM24bhQ)

(https://i.ibb.co/K6CtB2v/IMG-3199.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Y2v5Jcs)

(https://i.ibb.co/W0xgK1L/IMG-3197.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PMmwC8d)

(https://i.ibb.co/rFYyxbV/IMG-3196.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Cmg0bJf)

(https://i.ibb.co/F3jCWvN/IMG-3198.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xLRdsvP)

(https://i.ibb.co/LpCyKk2/IMG-3191.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BsgJkzS)

(https://i.ibb.co/XxMyyRw/IMG-3193.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m5gvvWx)

(https://i.ibb.co/vvYqbZ8/IMG-3194.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PzQjRw8)

(https://i.ibb.co/tc6Vzv3/IMG-3195.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xGbxYB3)
Title: Re: 1951 Tula with golden bayonet
Post by: echo1 on January 07, 2024, 09:03:55 PM
Very nice rifle and photo layout. I've got my 3rd Russian inbound and thought I see what's been currently posted. The other 2 I got within months of each other 10 years ago. PAX
Title: Re: 1951 Tula with golden bayonet
Post by: Boris Badinov on January 08, 2024, 10:21:12 PM
Nice catch.

Looks possibly unissued, straight to long term storage. Does it have crossbolt stamps on both sides of the stock?

From the evidence I've seen, the gold bayonet is not an original trait. It is likely a, quick drying, yellow chromate conversion coating (dip) applied during long term storage as corrosion prevention.

Early Chinese production was a defacto third soviet production line-- soviet made machinery and under the direct supervision of soviet technical advisors.  For all intents and purposes the early chinese sks is an exact copy of the  final soviet sks design-- and there is no evidence of the golden bayonets anywhere among the contemporaneous Chinese guns. Nor for that matter is it seen on the contemporaneous Romanian guns.
Title: Re: 1951 Tula with golden bayonet
Post by: theSKSguy45 on January 14, 2024, 04:48:26 PM
Stock maybe but the rifle I have no idea. No stamps on the other side. I’m thinking of sending one to a lab to get the substance on it identified. Nobody knows for sure what it is to my knowledge.
Title: Re: 1951 Tula with golden bayonet
Post by: Worm on January 14, 2024, 05:00:46 PM
Nice rifle & nice work getting her back to original form. I like it  thumb1
Title: Re: 1951 Tula with golden bayonet
Post by: Boris Badinov on January 14, 2024, 10:06:15 PM
Stock maybe but the rifle I have no idea. No stamps on the other side. I’m thinking of sending one to a lab to get the substance on it identified. Nobody knows for sure what it is to my knowledge.

Yellow/Zinc chromate conversion is a pretty common and easily found on many tools an parts at any hardware story. I would be surprised if the gold coating weren't yellow chromate.

Conversion coating is easy enough to do in your own garage workshop.