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1949 Tula Redux
« on: March 26, 2021, 10:01:18 PM »
Well, you've seen it before, but here are some more pictures. A trade was established and now it resides in Washington and my 1951 resides in Chevy Boy's neck of the woods.

Not much more to say except I'm happy  :)  dance2 Just a lot of detailed pictures for reference. Remarkable how many 1949 features survived a heavy refurbishment at Arsenal No. 1, Balakleya.


















































































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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2021, 10:58:28 PM »
Big congratulations again !!

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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2021, 11:45:45 PM »
Interesting to see bayonet has full serial e-penciled.

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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2021, 10:43:19 AM »
Interesting to see bayonet has full serial e-penciled.

Yeah, that is a new location for a serial number to me.

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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2021, 02:59:40 PM »
Interestingly, my 49 firing pin has a matching e-penciled serial number too.

The safety level is a real 49 level.

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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2021, 03:37:49 PM »
Did a lot of 1949 parts typically get “scrubbed” and replaced during the refurbishment process?
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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2021, 03:39:03 PM »
beautiful , i need a rusky for my stable again
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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2021, 05:17:35 PM »
Did a lot of 1949 parts typically get “scrubbed” and replaced during the refurbishment process?

It's more likely case by case. However, you can generally tell if parts are period correct.

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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2021, 09:43:50 PM »
Very nice rifle boss.
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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2021, 09:50:24 PM »
Did a lot of 1949 parts typically get “scrubbed” and replaced during the refurbishment process?

It's more likely case by case. However, you can generally tell if parts are period correct.

Right, scrubbing and restamping parts was just a common procedure during refurbishment within the Soviet arms (and equipment) refurbishment arsenal system, regardless of the year of the SKS. So many parts on 1949 Tulas are unique to that year, as pcke points out, such that you can look for those period correct features: spike bayonet, proper stock, proper ferrule, bayonet lug, receiver cover latch with loop, magazine without a pin (lost on this one), general bolt shape, spring loaded firing pin...

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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2021, 10:30:07 PM »
Did a lot of 1949 parts typically get “scrubbed” and replaced during the refurbishment process?

It's more likely case by case. However, you can generally tell if parts are period correct.

Right, scrubbing and restamping parts was just a common procedure during refurbishment within the Soviet arms (and equipment) refurbishment arsenal system, regardless of the year of the SKS. So many parts on 1949 Tulas are unique to that year, as pcke points out, such that you can look for those period correct features: spike bayonet, proper stock, proper ferrule, bayonet lug, receiver cover latch with loop, magazine without a pin (lost on this one), general bolt shape, spring loaded firing pin...

I would like to add 'safety lever'. I still believe 1949 to early 1950 (?) has different type of safety lever.

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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2021, 11:23:04 PM »
Did a lot of 1949 parts typically get “scrubbed” and replaced during the refurbishment process?

It's more likely case by case. However, you can generally tell if parts are period correct.

Right, scrubbing and restamping parts was just a common procedure during refurbishment within the Soviet arms (and equipment) refurbishment arsenal system, regardless of the year of the SKS. So many parts on 1949 Tulas are unique to that year, as pcke points out, such that you can look for those period correct features: spike bayonet, proper stock, proper ferrule, bayonet lug, receiver cover latch with loop, magazine without a pin (lost on this one), general bolt shape, spring loaded firing pin...

I would like to add 'safety lever'. I still believe 1949 to early 1950 (?) has different type of safety lever.

The lever is pretty much the same but it is friction based as opposed to the spring 'over center' based safety levers which, without the spring, just flop around.
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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2021, 11:51:05 PM »
Did a lot of 1949 parts typically get “scrubbed” and replaced during the refurbishment process?

It's more likely case by case. However, you can generally tell if parts are period correct.

Right, scrubbing and restamping parts was just a common procedure during refurbishment within the Soviet arms (and equipment) refurbishment arsenal system, regardless of the year of the SKS. So many parts on 1949 Tulas are unique to that year, as pcke points out, such that you can look for those period correct features: spike bayonet, proper stock, proper ferrule, bayonet lug, receiver cover latch with loop, magazine without a pin (lost on this one), general bolt shape, spring loaded firing pin...

I would like to add 'safety lever'. I still believe 1949 to early 1950 (?) has different type of safety lever.

The lever is pretty much the same but it is friction based as opposed to the spring 'over center' based safety levers which, without the spring, just flop around.

Sorry, that's not what I was talking about. The difference was regarding the direction of serrations on the lever.

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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2021, 07:32:28 AM »
I compared my early 50 and 54 safety levers. Never noticed difference until it was mentioned. I added 2 pictures from a early 49(no knurls).

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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2021, 10:15:13 AM »
Did a lot of 1949 parts typically get “scrubbed” and replaced during the refurbishment process?

It's more likely case by case. However, you can generally tell if parts are period correct.

Right, scrubbing and restamping parts was just a common procedure during refurbishment within the Soviet arms (and equipment) refurbishment arsenal system, regardless of the year of the SKS. So many parts on 1949 Tulas are unique to that year, as pcke points out, such that you can look for those period correct features: spike bayonet, proper stock, proper ferrule, bayonet lug, receiver cover latch with loop, magazine without a pin (lost on this one), general bolt shape, spring loaded firing pin...

I would like to add 'safety lever'. I still believe 1949 to early 1950 (?) has different type of safety lever.

The lever is pretty much the same but it is friction based as opposed to the spring 'over center' based safety levers which, without the spring, just flop around.

Sorry, that's not what I was talking about. The difference was regarding the direction of serrations on the lever.

Huh, never paid attention to the aesthetics of them. I'll have to compare next time I get them out.
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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2021, 11:09:46 AM »
It looks, that the gas tube and piston were replaced. The font on the first letter is different from the rest.

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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2021, 11:47:57 AM »
It looks, that the gas tube and piston were replaced. The font on the first letter is different from the rest.

You’re referring to the font of free hand electropenciled parts? I definitely look at fonts on stamped parts but I never thought to assume that all parts that are EPd have to be done by the same person in the same way on each part. That seems like a big set of assumptions to me.

I’ve never seen a gas piston quite like this one before. It’s subtle but different.

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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2021, 12:12:57 PM »
Yes. Different hand did the first letter.

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Re: 1949 Tula Redux
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2021, 12:26:57 PM »
Yes. Different hand did the first letter.

Yeah, I’m sticking to that’s impossible to determine, given that an electropencil is not a precision writing tool, the different radii of the two parts, and it’s a human doing the writing (no two letters will be exactly the same). You can see how wavy every part of the Ж is on the tighter radius gas piston.