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SKS Carbines => Unaltered SKS Rifles => Yugoslavian SKS => Topic started by: running-man on August 09, 2015, 07:55:54 PM
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I got this email the other day. Not sure if anyone is looking for a Yugo of this flavor, but they are intriguing at least. I hate the price, but I know of no other Yugos that are currently at retail anymore.
Unissued SKS Rifle Yugo 7.62X39 Cal. - Southern Ohio Gun (http://www.southernohiogun.com/sks-rifles-7-62x39-cal.html)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Brochures/sog_mail_SKS-M5966SC_2015.jpg~original)
Anyone pull the trigger on one of these? I'm interested to see who the importer of these are! thumb1
-RM
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Unissued my ass. bat1
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Unissued my ass. bat1
LOL...we were just talking about this.
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Samco is still peddling them....for less :o
https://www.samcoglobal.com/1-sks.html
opps :-[, those are cracked, possibly.
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Logbooks, yay ! Could be a great opportunity to collect info, I hope buyers find their way to the Files.
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If they would guarantee all matching numbers, a log book that matches the SN...and maybe an original sling...I'd probably bite ;)
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If they would guarantee all matching numbers, a log book that matches the SN...and maybe an original sling...I'd probably bite ;)
But what's the point of a log book if the rifle is "unissued" rofl rofl2 chuckles1
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If they would guarantee all matching numbers, a log book that matches the SN...and maybe an original sling...I'd probably bite ;)
Well they do claim "unissued"...so why wouldn't it's numbers match.....unless, it's unissued....since it was last refurbed....but wait, that would mean the book is boring and empty, other than a stamp of it's reborn on date. Didn't the book contain info of it's prior life, before refurb, once refurbed, it gets a new "blank" book for current tracking.
And for that price, I don't need one or a blank book that bad..
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Id pull the trigger on one of these in a heartbeat if they would ship to Ca, Thats one I don't have yet and would love to. Ill bet if a simple phone called was made they would inform about the all matching.
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While I hate the price, it is only $29 more than I paid for my Cherry's....I would have sprung the $29 for the missing log book and cleaning kit....just to have them. I doubt though that these are the quality of a Cherry's....and after shipping and not having a C&R....there isn't enough to get me to bite on one of these...even if it is the going rate for a Yugo bubba around here.
I so want a Yugo shooter though...so I can launch....things. cry1
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I asked them if the s/n's matched for book and rifle and they said most of them do. That means some do not, something I would want to avoid.
I told them there was a certain something I was looking for and asked if I could come in there to see what I would be getting, I live about 30 miles from there. Although I think they have a dealer pick-up counter, they said no, couldn't let me in but if I could send a pic of what I'm looking for, they would check 1 crate for it, for 10$ handpick fee.
If I were looking to buy, my first choice would be a rifle/book match, with the book having a build date and Zastava stamps, and I would send them this pic for comparison.
http://web.archive.org/web/20040613113454/http://www.asbrand.com/pics/guns/yugo_m59-66_logbook/02_m59-66_logbook_pg1.png.html (http://web.archive.org/web/20040613113454/http://www.asbrand.com/pics/guns/yugo_m59-66_logbook/02_m59-66_logbook_pg1.png.html)
The reason I would ask for that is because I think when you get that, especially if it's a later one, there's a good chance you're getting a rifle that was never issued by JNA after it was built, and also not broken out for the Bosnian War because it was under the control of Serbia, which unlike Bosnia and Croatia, didn't need them.
I would really like it if I knew the crate they were checking was full, I suppose if they didn't find what I want then I would just take the best looking one they found. Still okay especially if book/rifle match, as it seems even the refurbs had not been heavily used or abused by 2nd and 3rd line troops, and often looked in top shape and unused.
It looks to me like they went on building them for some time even though they were probably issuing far fewer, and then most likely from older inventory. The latest YSKS builds I can think of are from '89. I would have thought AK would have trickled all the way down through the ranks by then so to me it's not much of a stretch that there's a block of unissued rifles.
Anyway, there's the pic if someone wants to have a go at one that's what I would shoot for.
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The plot thickens. Classic released a video showing the uncrating of a bunch of these bad boys.
https://youtu.be/I1mfe8P65HE
Albeit we don't have much data yet, but some things I've picked up:- These rifles are from Slovenia.
- All the ones they showed in the video were M59/66A1s
- Most seem to have the proper log books, slings, oilers, pouches, etc..
- Highest number on the side of a crate I saw was '265'. If there are 265 crates, each with 10 guns, there are 2600+ Yugos out there waiting to be sold.
- I saw a "Pal 27" tag. So at least 27 pallets, with 10 crates per pallet gives us 2700+ guns
- Classic guy said they got a bunch of them, he thinks maybe all of them in this shipment.
Anywhoo, Pretty interesting stuff. It's obvious we will be seeing a large influx of Yugos sold at retail soon. I wonder if Classic will try $400+ for these like SOG or if they will be in the $350 range? If they could guarantee the logbook and accessories, that would be a steal, some of those guns are gorgeous.
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Same price as SOG +20 for hand select + $20.42 shipped to NE.
https://www.classicfirearms.com/yugo-sks-semi-auto-excellent# (https://www.classicfirearms.com/yugo-sks-semi-auto-excellent#)
SOG is +$10 for hand select and +10 for numbers matching. I don't see a shipping calculator on their site.
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Not "unissued", but seemingly very nice guns.
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Took a few screengrabs of stuff I found interesting:
1st crate tag:
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Yugo/classic_crate_tag1.jpg~original)
I translate the lines as being (with 'the Google's' help):
CONSERVATION
Models and CAL.
QUANTITY OR.
TYPE PRESERVATIVES.
PRESERVATIVES. Z.
AGE PRESERVATIVES.
PRESERVATIVES. OF
WORKSHOP
SIGNATURE OF AUTHORISED PERSON
I can't really make out the handwritten entries though. It would be nice to know the preservative used or the workshop name!
Here's another crate tag
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Yugo/classic_crate_tag2.jpg~original)
and Mr Google says:
ZAP. NO (probably item number)
TYPE WEAPONS
MODEL
NO. TOV (looks like serial number)
NAJED. PIPE (I would suspect pipe stands for barrel, and this is some kind of barrel wear, or throat erosion percentage)
CALIBER MM (they must slug them as they are measuring down to the hundreth millimeter.)
I got frustrated trying to translate the right side stuff, image isn't good enough to make out all the words. Check out two of the numbers on the S/N list though: consecutive J367988 & J367989. Very interesting! thumb1
S/Ns span the H, I, & J blocks. Date looks to read March 20, 2007.
The final crate tag:
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Yugo/classic_crate_tag3.jpg~original)
with Mr Google saying:
THE FACTORY NUMBER
ONE TUBE IN % (again, barrel use percentage maybe?)
CALIBER MM
WEAPONS TYPE
MODEL
NUMBER OF PIECES
PROTECTION
ASSET PROTECTION (not sure what this really is)
DATE PROTECTION
THE DURATION OF PROTECTION (I assume 'let' is short for 'letnik' which would be '5 years')
These S/N's span F, G, I, and M blocks. Date looks to read May 8, 2002.
Here's a late V series block log book:
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Yugo/classic_book1.jpg~original)
and the insides (sorry for the poor quality, not much to work with here):
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Yugo/classic_book2.jpg~original)
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I smell Century.
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Interesting how one of the crates had no dividers.
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Import stamps on these ones aren't in the usual IO, TGI, or CAI places on the barrel.
These stamps are on the left side of the receiver, towards the back. When I blow it up, it looks like a long single line of text:
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Yugo/Classic_M59_66.jpg~original)
I'm going to guess KBI, though it could be a PW Arms, Mitchell stamp, or someone we've never even seen before. It could still be one of the ones that typically stamp on the barrel too, there's no reason they couldn't move it for this batch.
I will say this, there's quite a few collectors that will be turned off by the import mark being billboarded on the receiver itself so close to the S/N. a less conspicuous barrel stamp would have been so much more preferable on guns this nice. Given the same quality gun with two different import marks, the less intrusive the import mark, the easier it is to sell.
Also, that handguard ain't original to the rifle. These guns are refurbs. Very nice refurbs, but refurbs nonetheless. I wonder if that will play into how quickly / slowly these move?
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$0.04 more at Classic :))
I hope we see some of these popping up here, so we can get an in depth look, but I'm satisfied with the 59/66 I have for now :)
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$0.04 more at Classic :))
I hope we see some of these popping up here, so we can get an in depth look, but I'm satisfied with the 59/66 I have for now :)
You got me there Phos, I over looked the .99 and .95. pissing1 What can you buy with $0.04 cents anyway?
On another note can some one explain the differece between 59/66 and 59/66A1? :-\
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$0.04 more at Classic :))
I hope we see some of these popping up here, so we can get an in depth look, but I'm satisfied with the 59/66 I have for now :)
You got me there Phos, I over looked the .99 and .95. pissing1 What can you buy with $0.04 cents anyway?
rofl
On another note can some one explain the differece between 59/66 and 59/66A1? :-\
Night sights on the latter model. Not sure if there are any other differences
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I think vrsta konz. is the place where they were stored. Neat to have a peek at this stuff, great find RM. So it's new shipments...I actually thought it was crates that someone had been sitting on for about 15 yrs.
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On another note can some one explain the differece between 59/66 and 59/66A1? :-\
Night sights on the latter model. Not sure if there are any other differences
Thanks Phos, I want a M59 just because, but the M59/66 and M59/66A1 with Grenade launcher and sights just doesn't do it for me.
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Could easily be SKhiSm. The abbreviations really mess with the translator. If I have an idea of what the translation is I can go backwards, but I was at a loss for that one. I assumed that Konz. stood for "konzervans" as that's what's shown in the main title line of that tag. I didn't explicitly mention it, but obviously I'm not fluent in Slovenian and my Google translations should be taken with a healthy amount of skepticism! whistle12
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Brian, you *need* an M59! I agree with you on the 59/66. Too much going on there. I had one, pawned it off on an unsuspecting Mauser licker and didn't really feel too bad about letting her go surprisingly enough. I got another, better condition one in an armslist 'didn't need it but bought it anyhow' deal and it hasn't really grown on me to this day. I haven't even fired it yet actually. :-\
I most certainly don't need another unless I can upgrade to a really nice one with matching book and accessories! thumb1
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Yugo%20M59/IMG_1652_zpsdab29a08.jpg~original)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Yugo%20M59/IMG_1654_zps69e396a1.jpg~original)
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Brian, you *need* an M59! I agree with you on the 59/66. Too much going on there. I had one, pawned it off on an unsuspecting Mauser licker and didn't really feel too bad about letting her go surprisingly enough. I got another, better condition one in an armslist 'didn't need it but bought it anyhow' deal and it hasn't really grown on me to this day. I haven't even fired it yet actually. :-\
I most certainly don't need another unless I can upgrade to a really nice one with matching book and accessories! thumb1
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Yugo%20M59/IMG_1652_zpsdab29a08.jpg~original)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Yugo%20M59/IMG_1654_zps69e396a1.jpg~original)
RM is the above yours? drool2 Yes, I do NEED one, but I didn't want to sound desperate. chuckles1
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Yeah, I got it from Samco in October, 2004. Wasn't more than $250 as I remember. They had a small shipment in and I got lucky in that I had the $$ at the time. Grain in the wood is just awesome. It's a refurb so the metal is worn in places and the bayo has a scratch or two out of the protective coating to go along with the likely non-original handguard, but it's good enough for my purposes.
I need to get some decent outdoor photos of my collection one of these days. The fuzzy indoor on the wood floor ones in poor lighting I have are pretty bad (though when you have as many trashy looking guns as I do, maybe the fuzzier the photo the better?!) chuckles1
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Looks like they are PW arms imports:
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/survey/yugo/import_stamps/PW_ARMS_REDMOND_WA4.jpg~original)
Man I'm not a big fan of that particular import stamp. Deep and bright and large and distracting. cry1
Oh well, what can you do eh? :)
The cleaning video Classic has is interesting. Nice to see them warn people about taking a screwdriver to the crossbolt as well as warning about the flying op rod dangers!
https://youtu.be/rvB6vTHRUlw
They keep mentioning unissued. :-\ I'm seeing lots of rear sight leafs in the white though. There's a reason these look so nice, but it's not 'unissued-ness'! thumb1
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Nice guns. Makes Cannon want
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Neat but I'm with Brian. If it's a Yugo and it isn't a M59 or practically free I'm not interested. No offense to Yugo fans, nothing wrong with Yugos, just my personal taste, I don't care for the grenade launcher and sights.
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Considering what rifles (59/66) of this condition have been going for on GB, I think its a fair deal with all the accessories etc. If I had not sealed the deal on a russian recently, I wouldn't mind pulling the trigger on one hand picked.
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$0.04 more at Classic :))
I hope we see some of these popping up here, so we can get an in depth look, but I'm satisfied with the 59/66 I have for now :)
Same here. I have a buttstock and a trigger group. rofl
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Lets see if they don't move and the prices drop.
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At least most you guys have the option of buying one or ten. These California laws just saved me a bundle rofl
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Lets see if they don't move and the prices drop.
With an election panic right around the corner.... I wouldn't count on it.
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I suspect these will move just fine considering the gunbroker data we've seen over the past few months.
Avg. Very Good yugo is $452.49 since I started collecting data in March. A 24 gun sample makes me pretty comfortable about the number. Notice how there's only one 1 rated at Excellent. Some of the guns they randomly pulled out of the crates could easily rate Ex, and all rated VG IMO. thumb1
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Auction_images/2015/2015_Yugoslavian.jpg~original)
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Dang it. I already blew my cash wad on a purchase a couple months ago. Love the looks of the Yugos. Best of luck to anyone who gets one.
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It took quite a while for the "Smithsonian grade" Samco had to sell out at a price compairable to SOG. And they had them in stock through an election and big gun ban threat over the Conn. shooting. Even the Chinese rifles are still available in certain retail outlets, the market as a whole is saturated.
I can understand the happy joy joy feeling in getting a "new" surplus gun also. But, realistically I've seen just as nice examples on the private market, for less. I've even seen the less common M59 for less money. An M59/66 is not like it's an overly rare or uncommon variant, they are almost as easy to find as a Type 56 Chinese stamped Norinco.
It's hard to justify a retail fixed stone & mortar store price based on auction prices, also it's not a fair comparison, like judging Ebay vs. Target or Amazon. From a buyers stand point, 430+ all the bla bla for a common SKS, when one could buy privatly cheaper or cough up another 100-125 or so and get an Ak or maybe a cheapy entry level AR doesn't make much sense. Again, especially, when some retailers still have the Chinese still available, for less money. Put the price, say 375-395, then the market would light up.
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Good points Carl, but the Yugo M59/66 has always been the undesirable red headed stepchild of the collecting world. Heck in this one thread, we have three collectors (Brian, Carl in CT, and myself) all saying they don't really like the M59/66 at all. These will generate excitement for a brief while and then will be relegated to the back seat when the next import pops up. The $64000 question is: when, if ever, will the next big import show up? I've heard rumors of another batch of Sino-Banians recently (though maybe that is these guns). Samco had to deal with their Yugos competing against an 18000+ Sino-Banian flood from 2012 onwards. These have almost no other SKS competition at the retail market. Yes there are still Sino-Banians out there, but they are few and far between and they are in pretty poor condition compared to these. The cheaper C&R holders will go after the $300 Chinese guns while many new/young collectors with C&Rs who missed out on the Yugo surge in the early 2000s might be the ones who jump on at least one of these to get a nice gun, log book, and accessories.
I don't think comparing eBay to Amazon or Classic to Gunbroker is a stretch at all. Amazon and eBay are *very* comparable in pricing on many things when you look at the BIN auctions. Even the regular auctions don't typically exceed the Amazon price all that often on common run-of-the-mill things that can be easily bought at retail. Now Target to eBay is a totally different story I'll agree, that would be like comparing Classic to your local gun store. You just can't do it.
These guns are not going to be a big hit with guys who just want a rifle to plink with. They will not sell well to Bubbas who want to chop the GL and stick it in a bullpup. They will not sell well to cheapskates (like me). They will not sell well to 'real' collectors who already have 15 Yugos and logbooks and leather slings coming out their ears.
They will sell to collectors who either want to upgrade their collections or want to get a complete set of a gun with log books and other accessories that 90% of the current private sales don't include.
Time will tell how things really play out. I don't think Yugos will become anyone's darling gun anytime soon because of this import. Just something new in the supply chain to shake things up a little bit and keep it interesting! You're right about us tempering expectations a bit. No need to cheerlead this import, it will stand or fall based on the market. thumb1
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∆∆∆∆∆ this
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Find me a consistent source with yugos of this condition including matching book and all accessories for under $430. I'm not talking about 'right place at right time' single guns on some trader from untrusted Joe Schmo that likely wont ship.
I have better things to do with my time. At least someone brought these guns in and gave the community an option etc. Maybe we need more mosins to hit the shelf so GM can be interested in something again. rofl
No comparison to $410 cracked stock yugos from samco with no book or accessories.
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So, forgive my lack on knowledge on these. Are they "newer" built rifles and not original military issue>
Or; are they the real deal? Did it show year of manufacure?
Thanks
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I think its great they are importing any sks, but am I going to pull the trigger on one of these m59/66 mmmm...........no, a M59 hell yeah I would! Don't get me wrong I love putting any new gun from an importer in the ol' shopping cart and waiting by the door, but the grenade launcher is a huge turn off. Its like a chick with hairy armpits......some guys like em, some guys don't! chuckles1
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So, forgive my lack on knowledge on these. Are they "newer" built rifles and not original military issue>
Or; are they the real deal? Did it show year of manufacure?
Thanks
These are the real deal. They were likely: used lightly by all appearances, refurbished to the extent needed, put in Cosmoline for storage and stacked away in a warehouse until warehouse.
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While I get the turn off to some with all the extra junk on a 59/66...I cannot understand not wanting one as an SKS fan. I got lucky, but still would love a shooter grade one since mine is a princess that deserves a cushion to sit upon. The few times I have defiled her bore, I was kind of impressed with the way she shot, that extra weight seemed to help...and she was quite accurate...for a virgin prom queen I was trying to be ever so gentle with...
If the price was more reasonable...I might bite and piss the wife off to no end when she sees her Cabela's Visa bill...but I would be more content to see if some bottom of the barrel c grades show up so I can have one I feel comfortable shooting. My Cherry's just got transplanted to camp...just in time to make me feel less need to bite on this opportunity...I have to go now, and install a rack for her...she doesn't like to be affiliated with the Chinese Types. rofl
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You guys really make GREAT interesting reads here. I agree IMO that the M 59/66 is the least preferred sks. Ive owned one of the Ca modified 59/66 for about a year and sold it to fund something else. Being a somewhat a semi collector, I would love to own just one of these nice hand select crate warriors in original configuration just because all sks's are cool. The funny thing is that if you were showing your sks's to a stranger, The 59/66 would be the choice of the coolest looking :o
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Since they are truly so unique to the SKS world everybody who truly cares should have one (or have had one)... They have a pretty high neato factor. Practicality-wise maybe not so much...but when you have a grenade launcher suddenly you feel as if something is a little longer...and it is...but it is just your barrel length....and it is harder to find a place to put your...barrel. rofl2
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Find me a consistent source with yugos of this condition including matching book and all accessories for under $430. I'm not talking about 'right place at right time' single guns on some trader from untrusted Joe Schmo that likely wont ship.
I have better things to do with my time. At least someone brought these guns in and gave the community an option etc. Maybe we need more mosins to hit the shelf so GM can be interested in something again. rofl
No comparison to $410 cracked stock yugos from samco with no book or accessories.
I guess I need more than a possible blank book with a stamp or a "free" leather sling to excite me for 430. The book while a somewhat cool, doesn't generate movement, what would I do with it, fill it with green stamps, add it to my many boxes of bayonets, slings and other toys, I cant shoot it. The sling, depending on condition, it may look ok and hold up. Sorry if my opinion offends the, but I just cant get excited over a "possible" new refurb, when others more rare like a Romanian or Albanian, even an M59 could be found for the same $$$$.
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For those who dislike the m59/66, how about a straight up m59? $425. A 'few' crates could mean only 30 guns or so, I suspect they won't last long.
http://www.dansammo.com/firearms.asp
http://www.dansammo.com/images/inv/gunpic.asp?ITEM=F1022
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For those who dislike the m59/66, how about a straight up m59? $425. A 'few' crates could mean only 30 guns or so, I suspect they won't last long.
http://www.dansammo.com/firearms.asp
http://www.dansammo.com/images/inv/gunpic.asp?ITEM=F1022
Oh, keep talking, my Cintas pants are starting to move....M59 :P. rofl2. Just need some $$$ to fullfill the urdge... cry1
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For those who dislike the m59/66, how about a straight up m59? $425. A 'few' crates could mean only 30 guns or so, I suspect they won't last long.
http://www.dansammo.com/firearms.asp
http://www.dansammo.com/images/inv/gunpic.asp?ITEM=F1022
Thanks! $425?? :o
I have been looking for a nice M59 for a long time!
I will let you know how it looks when it arrives. I am hoping for matching numbers.
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Damn you RM!!!!! Those are pretty nice.......even spotted some artwork on one of them.......sigh........... cry1
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Wow these are some exciting times for Yugo collectors. If they have money.
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I'm not quite the 'enabler' that GM is, but I try my best! thumb1
Good luck with them guys. I've never dealt with this particular shop before, caveat emptor and all that.
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One Yugo M59 Inbound for Carbine!! Now the wait begins whistle12
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Its raining yugos!!!
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For those who dislike the m59/66, how about a straight up m59? $425. A 'few' crates could mean only 30 guns or so, I suspect they won't last long.
http://www.dansammo.com/firearms.asp
http://www.dansammo.com/images/inv/gunpic.asp?ITEM=F1022
Very Nice! If I had a little more in my gun fund, I would order one up. $425 + $15 Shipping to NE. I would drop that any day over a M59/66
Can't wait to see what shows up for the guys that ordered.
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Are the grenade launchers easily removeable, if not, how do the war-fighters using these critters "fix bayonets"?
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Maybe it's just me but, Yugos are the one SKS I really don't have any desire to own. I think the grenade launcher is fugly.
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Are the grenade launchers easily removeable, if not, how do the war-fighters using these critters "fix bayonets"?
No they are pinned in place. They are bear to get off w/o the proper tools. The bayo locks in place via a hook that latches into a separate collar around the barrel just aft of the grenade launcher. I don't have a great photo of one with the bayo extended, but here are a couple of mine that show the collar and hook on the bayo:
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Yugo%20M59-66/IMG_2376_mod_zpsaeb9f908.jpg~original)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Yugo%20M59-66/IMG_3378_zps174205b0.jpg~original)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Yugo%20M59-66/100_1094.jpg~original)
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I'm not quite the 'enabler' that GM is, but I try my best! thumb1
Good luck with them guys. I've never dealt with this particular shop before, caveat emptor and all that.
Enabler, uh, really, you too bat1 chuckles1....
Seriously, imagine, you drop 425, you order the M59, boom, a "B" series serial shows up...Now you sit there basking in your joy, you would be like a 15yr old boy on a nude beach, then you realize, hey, I coulda got me an unissued refurb M59/66 w/a S&H green stamp book and free sling..
The odds of it happening, while slim, are far more interesting and even if it is a "C" so what, whats the ratio of M59s to M59/66s, maybe something like one M59 for every 1000 M59/66 produced.
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I gave them a call and they said these came in with the 59/66s and are in the same condition. He did say there were very few. There's no real handpick but he says they go from best to worst and adjust price if need be. I told him I'd prefer an A or B serial so who knows. I ordered a '43 M44 from them a while ago and was quite happy. He said it will ship Monday.
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Maybe it's just me but, Yugos are the one SKS I really don't have any desire to own. I think the grenade launcher is fugly.
I used to think that way, until I got my hands on one. Hard to explain it. Like Mosinitis. I never caught Mosinitis, but I did get the SKS bug.
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Did anyone notice the M59 in the middle with what appears to be a chrome gas tube?
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/bbush44/F1022d.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/bbush44/media/F1022d.jpg.html)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/bbush44/F1022e.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/bbush44/media/F1022e.jpg.html)
What is with that? Doesn't look like the blue is wore, just looks like it never had any? That will probably be the one I get... Dang it RM I couldn't pass it up.
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Looks like worn bluing to me... Likely was on another gun prior. Obviously not "unissued". Lol
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Is this old? Or did this place get some 59/66 also?
http://www.dansammo.com/images/inv/yugo.asp (http://www.dansammo.com/images/inv/yugo.asp)
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Dunno if its old but it shows sold out. Someone did mention the m59s came in with some 59/66 guns.
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Is this old? Or did this place get some 59/66 also?
http://www.dansammo.com/images/inv/yugo.asp (http://www.dansammo.com/images/inv/yugo.asp)
Yes these were from a while back. The M59s he has came in with this Slovenia batch but he didn't say if they had some of those too and I didn't think to ask.
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Did anyone notice the M59 in the middle with what appears to be a chrome gas tube?
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/bbush44/F1022d.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/bbush44/media/F1022d.jpg.html)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/bbush44/F1022e.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/bbush44/media/F1022e.jpg.html)
What is with that? Doesn't look like the blue is wore, just looks like it never had any? That will probably be the one I get... Dang it RM I couldn't pass it up.
I think it is just worn.
I wouldn't care if I got it as long as it is a numbers matching M59. They seem to hold value better with numbers matching. It will be interesting to see how these turn out.
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The 59/66s I was able to resist, since I'm happy with the one I have, but I couldn't pass on one of these M59s Besplode
I guess I bought the lottery ticket and we'll see what I get ??? Wait...that's a lot of scratch just to get my Cosmoline fix chuckles1
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Maybe them chrome ones are the Pink Panthers rifles, a.k.a. Serbian Mafia... them dudes were into everything, especially diamonds.
Mafia rifle or Honor Guard...mafia sounds oh so much cooler rofl
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Split crate L/N
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah226/SKhiSm59-66/IMG_0903_zpsnoqd0bg4.jpg)
Rollover B's - the late buid B
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah226/SKhiSm59-66/IMG_0906_zpsehy5eds9.jpg)
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:) ;)
One M59 inbound
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Hey I got one of those too. An M59 from Dan's Ammo in route to NE. banana time
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/bbush44/Capture.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/bbush44/media/Capture.jpg.html)
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Hey I got one of those too. An M59 from Dan's Ammo in route to NE. banana time
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/bbush44/Capture.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/bbush44/media/Capture.jpg.html)
banana time banana time banana time banana time
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I couldn't resist the M59s either. It should be here tomorrow.
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bouncecool1
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I couldn't resist the M59s either. It should be here tomorrow.
(http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t618/toeknee221/ddd_zpsunlljnan.jpg) (http://s1316.photobucket.com/user/toeknee221/media/ddd_zpsunlljnan.jpg.html)
Disturbed-Down with the Sickness - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq3QmtV8vT0)
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Mine came in. Serial starts with C44. Stock shows another serial sanded but the receiver serial matches the stock. VERY amazing bluing. Stock has some dings, but beautiful anyway. EPd everything else except no serial on receiver cover or magazine.
I paid less for a matching Russian SKS with EP magazine. This M59 is nice, but I have a all-stamped matching 59/66 that cost a lot less. I have Chinese SKSs that are just as nice and cost me a lot less.
I am not really very impressed and I don't think it was worth it. I will leave it in cosmo and shoot my other stuff.
I hope you guys get something nice.
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Sorry to hear you're not too happy with it K9. My advice would be to give it a bit of time and see if it grows on you. The first Sino-Banian I got back in 2012 was a bit of mixmaster with almost zero bluing and a replacement stock. I was really disappointed; so much so that I was ready to flip it at a loss if I had to. Over time it really grew on me and it soon became my favorite SKS.
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All I wanted was a matching numbers M59. This one goes in the safe in cosmo. I have a few really nice and also stamped all-matching beauties that have better resale value and cost me less than this. I have zero reason to shoot this and bring its resale value down further.
Live and learn.
What information do you need for your list before I put it up?
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K9 you do realize the m59's are in a category of their own when it comes to matching numbers. I believe an all matching m59 consists of the stock, bolt, bolt carrier and receiver. Many of these fellers were put together with with leftover parts. And Like RM said, Give it time Bro.. These M59's imo are much more collectible then any 59/66. If your BBL isnt frosted out from corrosive ammo and not being cleaned,, Dude you did good ! I swear there the most accurate SkS alive ! Post up some pics ! thumb1
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K-9..
Yugos dont have numbers on several parts as DC stated. Sometimes they were added during the furb process, but I would consider not having them on said parts is perfectly normal. thumb1
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I was a little turned off by the stock on mine at first. It shows old numbers like yours. Part of it I think is because I kept thinking about "unissued" 59/66s. Once I started looking over the metal I forgot about the stock. It is strange that they were so light with the sander though. That makes three numbered like that.
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K9- I too would like to see some pictures. Mine is suppose to be here tomorrow. Fingers crossed.
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All I wanted was a matching numbers M59. This one goes in the safe in cosmo. I have a few really nice and also stamped all-matching beauties that have better resale value and cost me less than this. I have zero reason to shoot this and bring its resale value down further.
Live and learn.
What information do you need for your list before I put it up?
We know so little about Yugos in general that I'd be hard pressed to tell you that a 'matching' numbers M59 even exists in the way that you might find matching Chinese, Russian, Alby, or Romanian SKSs. The receiver S/N and the stock S/N seem to be the only two that were consistently marked. Bolts often have stenciled numbers, but I've seen EP'd and blank bolts before. Bolt carriers could have no numbers, EP'd numbers, stenciled numbers on the top, or stenciled numbers on the side. Magazines could have no numbers, stenciled numbers on the side, or stenciled numbers on the bottom. Receiver covers and trigger groups were all hit or miss too it seems, many simply do not have numbers beyond the assigned part numbers.
With such a hodgepodge of consistency when it comes to numbers on subcomponents, it really seems to me that they were an afterthought (i.e. not originally present on new guns) and only marked when needed to keep tabs on things during a refurb. Considering that each gun had a logbook associated with it, you'd think the opposite should be true and the Yugos would be the ones with the most consistent set of markings of any of the big five, but it's simply not the case. Seen in this light, I really don't think much if any premium should be given for an 'all-matching' M59 vs. one where only the receiver, stock, and bolt/bolt carrier match, but the others are blank. I'd probably consider the latter to be a less refurbished example.
For the list, I'd like the information requested in Official 2015 Yugo Imports (PW Arms, SOG/Classic/Dan's) Tracking Thread in Yugoslavian SKS - Page 1 of 1 (http://sks-files.com/yugoslavian-sks/21/official-2015-yugo-imports-pw-arms-sogclassicdans-tracking-thread/1504/) (for an M59: the S/N minus the last one or two digits, whether the RSL is white/blued and whether the crossbolt is flat/round)
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Could be the "main" components on orginial rifles were serialed when each rifle was build. The reciever and stock get numbered for tracking, the bolt and carrier, well at least the bolt. The bolt being pretty much custom fitted, due to headspace, sure others would interchange and fit, but that particular bolt fit perfect. Considering the bore variances on the crate placards, there may have been just as many variances in the machining of the reciever requiring numbered bolts. Im pretty sure, they didn't whip these out on a C-N-C machine. All it takes is a few thousanths of an inch to seperate a good head space rifle from a bad one.
The trigger, gas tube, piston, box mag may have been penciled at refurb, maybe at some point they opt'ed to start numbering all pieces, which is why some are blank. There is no practical reason for these pieces to need numbers, other than maybe tracking, these pieces are pretty much interchangable, not techincally fitted to the respective rifle, more like just "installed". And, you don't know how many trips to a refurb facility an individual rifle has been, was it just once, 5 or maybe 10 times.
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K9- I too would like to see some pictures. Mine is suppose to be here tomorrow. Fingers crossed.
It seriously looks EXACTLY like MEBears M59. The only difference is the serial number. It was really weird to see those pictures. I won't have time to take pictures until the weekend.