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General Milsurp Weapons => Milsurp Rifles & Carbines => Japanese Milsurps & Militaria => Topic started by: Blicero on September 18, 2014, 11:18:27 PM

Title: The Type 30, an odd duck
Post by: Blicero on September 18, 2014, 11:18:27 PM
  Here's a neat old Arisaka for you- the type 30 Arisaka in 6.5Japanese, aka the hook safety rifle.
   
  This was the precursor to the Type 38. The difference on these guns is the crazy bolt, something simplified by Gen. Nambu on the T38 once he started overseeing rifle production. It consists of something like 9 pieces in total, with both the extractor and ejector built onto the bolt head.

  Based on total production, I think this Arisaka was made in 1902 at the Tokyo Koishikawa plant. You can see where the mum was voided, this gun was removed from Japanese service and, based on the gizmo on the trigger guard that blocks the mag release, was sold to Russia as aid around the start of ww1. That piece was not originally on Japanese guns, but was added by the Russians to prevent gloved hands from accidentally dumping the mag.

  The Type 30 did not last long in Japanese service, only about 9 years and was obsolete once the T38 was introduced. But these guns served in multiple conflicts like the Russo-Jap war and WW1, and in multiple nations including England, Hungary, Russia, Austria and of course Japan. They're stout rifles with a rich history, quite fun to shoot, and still inexpensive in today's market. Go get ya some!

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Title: Re: The Type 30, an odd duck
Post by: running-man on September 18, 2014, 11:35:52 PM
What's one of these run these days Kevin?  Hard to find ammo?  Doesn't matter, I need to get me a jap gun to oogle with the rest of the firearms I don't shoot!
Title: Re: The Type 30, an odd duck
Post by: Dannyboy53 on September 18, 2014, 11:43:16 PM
That's a good looking rifle Blicero, fascinating features.
Title: Re: The Type 30, an odd duck
Post by: Adam7 on September 19, 2014, 12:07:30 AM
I really like this rifle.  I have been thinking about branching out I to the bolt action surplus world(all I have are mosins..) and japs are high on my list.
Title: Re: The Type 30, an odd duck
Post by: Worm on September 19, 2014, 08:36:45 AM
Is that a horizontal serial number?!?!?! IT MUST BE A DERP DERP AR!
Title: Re: The Type 30, an odd duck
Post by: Greasemonkey on September 19, 2014, 09:39:20 AM
Nice,  thumb1 

Here is the bolt from my Type 38 to show the difference.


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Title: Re: The Type 30, an odd duck
Post by: Blicero on September 19, 2014, 05:09:16 PM
What's one of these run these days Kevin?  Hard to find ammo?  Doesn't matter, I need to get me a jap gun to oogle with the rest of the firearms I don't shoot!

'Bout 3fiddy is the top of the line on these guns. Japanese stuff gets no love, nobody wants it, so that keeps the prices down. But ammo is a bear. PCI is the cheapest I've found, right on a buck a round, and it's available at Graf's on a limited basis. When they get it, it goes fast.

I really like this rifle.  I have been thinking about branching out I to the bolt action surplus world(all I have are mosins..) and japs are high on my list.

I think I may have found something for you in the bolt gun department...PM incoming.
Title: Re: The Type 30, an odd duck
Post by: shemhamforash on February 22, 2015, 05:39:30 PM
wow.........i've never seen one o' them not sportsterized

excellent find there in a decade or so who knows what the value will be.......