Hansen Cartridge Company 123gr Posi-feed SP aka YUGO brass case

[armedhippie]

It pays to get to know your LGS's...Owner told me to hang around 1 day cuz he had a fella bringing in some ammo I would be interested in. It didn't even land on his shelves...snagged it for $5 a box. 6 boxes of Hansen Cartridge Company 123gr Posi-Feed sp brass cased, boxer primed and made in Yugo with the IK headstamp. Igman Kronjic. Looks to be some good hunting ammo to stash back. Imported in the '80s.

Any1 have any experience with this? Good/bad?













Here it is compared to years '77-'82. '77-'79 has the purple/reddish sealant then '80-'82 has the same orange sealant. Compare the IK Hansen/YUGO primer with the NK YUGO...The Hansen has the Flat boxer primer and the Regular YUGO has the rounded Berdan corrosive primer. Now if I ever get around to shooting this...I'm still gonna treat it as corrosive just to be on the safe side. Their both sealed orange....so... If any 1 has any info on this as always it will be appreciated.

[Loose}{Cannon]

Never seen it...  But if its boxer, go shoot it because I need the casings.   

[Phosphorus32]

I have no experience with it. I have some Igman M67 but I haven't shot any yet     Regardless, boxer primed, brass case ammo for $0.25 per round sounds great! 

I think it's hilarious that they call it Russian ammo on the cover and then on the side say Made in Yugoslavia. I guess if the original package/crate had any Cyrillic letters, then it's Russian 

[armedhippie]

LC since I don't reload ( as of now and....not planning on it...Yet) Your on man, I'll keep you in mind. 

Phos, I ran across a fella at a flea market selling all kinds of old ammo and every box of 7.62x39 I found ( USA made or surplus) was marked as 7.62x39 Russian. Wish I could remember the name, It was yellow/black boxes mostly and looked to be from the '50s-'60s.

[running-man]

I'm pretty sure the Russian part is a holdover of the 7.62x39 "Russian" nomenclature, designating that the design of the round originated in Russia.  My older reloading books all have this nomenclature on the round too and a set of old Lee dies I've got also have the "Russian" portion in the title block.

Back in the 60's - 80's 7.62x39 wasn't a very popular round, there were very few arms in the civilian market (if any, bringbacks are all I can think of at the moment) to shoot it.  I'd imagine the companies wanted to more easily differentiate it from a much more common 7.62 x 51 NATO round by adding a very distinct descriptor in case the numbers were glossed over by the customer.

Neat ammo Hippie!   I't would be interesting if we could pinpoint exactly when this stuff was imported into the states.  Couldn't have been before Tito died in '80 I'd think, and then the whole Balkan wars of the early 90's would have put a serious hurt on arms exports out of former Yugoslavian states too. 

[Phosphorus32]

I'm pretty sure the Russian part is a holdover of the 7.62x39 "Russian" nomenclature, designating that the design of the round originated in Russia. 

Interesting, I never knew that   

[running-man]

Laugh Jon. I don't know if you're being facetious or sincere with the

I'll snap a few photos of my dies and my Lee book! 

[Greasemonkey]

The term "Russian" after the caliber may kind of be a misnomer, alot of people incorrectly call and label the 7.62x54mmR as in 7.62x54mm Russian, when it's 7.62x54mm "RIMMED".    Rimmed like a 7.7×56mmR or a .303 British or a 7.62x51mmR or just call it what it is, a .30-30 WCF, it's rimmed, not Russian.  I guess one could say, it's a 7.62x54mmRR, rimmed Russian, it's technically a Russian cartridge, thats rimmed. Then lets throw in a .44 S&W Russian for a little extra confusion. 

Hansen was a fairly common ammo around '84-'88 or somewhere in that time frame, my old man still has a mess of it kicking around, stuff like .30-06, .308 and 7mm Mauser, even a box or two of .22lr, some of the boxes also say posifeed. Like Sampson branded ammo from somewhere in about the same time frame, if my feeble memory is right, some of that was reboxed I.M.I. stuff.

[Phosphorus32]

Laugh Jon. I don't know if you're being facetious or sincere with the

I'll snap a few photos of my dies and my Lee book! 

I was actually being sincere, for a change.  I truly didn't know that.  I'm still a relative noob with a bit less than 3 years of firearms experience, so gaps in my knowledge crop up with regularity   

[Loose}{Cannon]

Yeah..  I think my reloading data states 'russian' after the caliber aswell. 

[Greasemonkey]

Yeah..  I think my reloading data states 'russian' after the caliber aswell.

Well it ain't 7.62x39 Springfield, Mauser, Ackley Improved, Winchester Magnum, WCF, Long Rifle, Swede, Swiss, French, Sharps, Tokarev, Luger, Rimmed, Carcano, Kurtz, T-Rex, Weatherby, Long Colt, Smith and Wesson, Colt, Krag, NATO, Government, British, Jap, Parabellum, Marlin..........

So why not call it Russian?     It's Mother Russia's baby..

[running-man]

My Lee book says 'Russian'


Hornady likes 'M43'


And Lyman likes 'Russian' as well

[armedhippie]

Cool reading RM  The Hornady book states the 7.62x39 is/was the current military round of China and Finland. Didn't know that about Finland.

I was actually being sincere, for a change.  I truly didn't know that.  I'm still a relative noob with a bit less than 3 years of firearms experience, so gaps in my knowledge crop up with regularity   

Could have fooled me Phos....You must be a quick learner 

Along with what GM was saying, I've seen the 7.62x38r simply referred to as the 7.62 Nagant.

[Phosphorus32]

Cool reading RM  The Hornady book states the 7.62x39 is/was the current military round of China and Finland. Didn't know that about Finland.

Thanks AH.

I guess that would be due to the Valmet family of AK clones. The Finns have a history of adopting the cartridge and firearms of their most likely adversary.

[Greasemonkey]

The Valmet M76    , one of the holy grails to an AK collector. There were two caliber choices, 5.56 and x39.  And if you see Laupa x39 ammo, grab it, it's become collectable as well, toted as about as good as you can get for mass production ammo.

I think Finland has started to phase out the x39 as of recently, they have been very slow to adopt the 5.56Nato.

[Dannyboy53]

I had some Hansen in .30-'06 several years ago but I haven't seen any lately. I had forgotten about it until yall brought it up here.