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Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« on: October 25, 2016, 07:51:09 PM »
So, I have never seen a NK Type 63 in Canada.  And this pops up for sale for the low Cdn price of $675....

"first is an extremely rare North Korean SKS.......yes its missing lots of parts, its rusty, its pitted. The barreled receiver comes with the original bolt and the # matched top cover.  Your not buying this as a shooter, your buying it as a collector piece...this is the only North Korean I ever seen in Canada. ASKING 675 Shipped"

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RUSSIA SKS45: Tula 49, 50, 51 x2, 53 x2, 54, 57(И); Izhevsk 53, 54
POLAND SKS45: "W.P." Marked Tula 52
CHINA TYPE 56 CARBINE: /26\ 60 "S", 61, 64, 65, 66, 79; /UK5?\ 69; /256\ 70; /316\ 70; [0138] Stamped Receiver 70 x2; /306\ 71; /416\ 公安 73; /0412\ 78
CHINA Civilian: SKS-D (XZ), "SKS-D", Cdn Para x2
N. KOREA: T63
YUGO PAP M59: 66 C-Series x2; PAP M59/66a1: 73 J, 83 T
ALBANIA 561: 78

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Re: Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2016, 09:02:48 PM »
Omg...  Fresh bubba cuts on the fsb!!!!!!

I dunno man...  Is the bolt AND carrier matching?
      
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Re: Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2016, 09:05:49 PM »
If its the ONLY ONE you ever seen in Canada.....  I think you have to buy it, and save it.
      
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Re: Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2016, 10:04:10 PM »
The barreled receiver is the real deal based in the S/N prefix.  Not having a stock is a pretty big ding in my opinion. Impossible to find a side swivel laminate stock in the wild. Still, it's a neat collectors piece, likely ine of a kind. $650 would be a fair to high price in the states for it.

If you do get it, please let me know the full S/N with suffix. I'm interested to know what series it is.
      

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Re: Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2016, 10:27:00 PM »
650 is like 400 in the US.    :))
      
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Re: Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2016, 11:46:55 PM »
Laugh, I forgot about the CAD to USD exchange rate. CAD$650.00 = USD$485.01 using today's exchange rate.  I'd pull the trigger at that price, and I'm a bigtime cheapskate!!
      

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Re: Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2016, 08:04:25 AM »
That is slicker than snot, and I know that given the opportunity...I would pull the trigger also, too bad there isn't one.

Someone had to say it.  chuckles1

I would be torn on how to display it...which, you would have to right?  Would you do a mock up restore? Just the barreled action under glass?

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Re: Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2016, 11:25:07 AM »
I've messaged the seller an offer. Will see what he says. As for displaying... I've thought of a couple of different routes. Perhaps un numbered parts either Chinese or Russian. The stock would be the difficult part to find/replicate accurately. Perhaps a jungle stock haha.
RUSSIA SKS45: Tula 49, 50, 51 x2, 53 x2, 54, 57(И); Izhevsk 53, 54
POLAND SKS45: "W.P." Marked Tula 52
CHINA TYPE 56 CARBINE: /26\ 60 "S", 61, 64, 65, 66, 79; /UK5?\ 69; /256\ 70; /316\ 70; [0138] Stamped Receiver 70 x2; /306\ 71; /416\ 公安 73; /0412\ 78
CHINA Civilian: SKS-D (XZ), "SKS-D", Cdn Para x2
N. KOREA: T63
YUGO PAP M59: 66 C-Series x2; PAP M59/66a1: 73 J, 83 T
ALBANIA 561: 78

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Re: Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2016, 11:41:46 AM »
Chunk it in a Russian laminate stock. That would be about as close as your gonna get I would think.


You finda a NK.... but no Romanian yet  :)  Sorry..don't hit me.. :o rofl2
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Re: Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2016, 12:25:04 PM »
Polish parade stock?  :o

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Re: Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2016, 01:18:45 PM »
Polish parade stock?  :o

Have one. Would look less right than a Russian laminate.
RUSSIA SKS45: Tula 49, 50, 51 x2, 53 x2, 54, 57(И); Izhevsk 53, 54
POLAND SKS45: "W.P." Marked Tula 52
CHINA TYPE 56 CARBINE: /26\ 60 "S", 61, 64, 65, 66, 79; /UK5?\ 69; /256\ 70; /316\ 70; [0138] Stamped Receiver 70 x2; /306\ 71; /416\ 公安 73; /0412\ 78
CHINA Civilian: SKS-D (XZ), "SKS-D", Cdn Para x2
N. KOREA: T63
YUGO PAP M59: 66 C-Series x2; PAP M59/66a1: 73 J, 83 T
ALBANIA 561: 78

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Re: Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2016, 01:20:17 PM »
Chunk it in a Russian laminate stock. That would be about as close as your gonna get I would think.


You finda a NK.... but no Romanian yet  :)  Sorry..don't hit me.. :o rofl2

No Romanian yet. Was surprised I found an Albanian first. I do know there are very few Romanians up here but never seen one for sale. Super rare.
RUSSIA SKS45: Tula 49, 50, 51 x2, 53 x2, 54, 57(И); Izhevsk 53, 54
POLAND SKS45: "W.P." Marked Tula 52
CHINA TYPE 56 CARBINE: /26\ 60 "S", 61, 64, 65, 66, 79; /UK5?\ 69; /256\ 70; /316\ 70; [0138] Stamped Receiver 70 x2; /306\ 71; /416\ 公安 73; /0412\ 78
CHINA Civilian: SKS-D (XZ), "SKS-D", Cdn Para x2
N. KOREA: T63
YUGO PAP M59: 66 C-Series x2; PAP M59/66a1: 73 J, 83 T
ALBANIA 561: 78

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Re: Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2016, 01:40:47 PM »
Wanna buy my extra NK sks sling?
      
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Re: Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2016, 01:42:20 PM »
Great thread. After some deliberation, I've concluded that it must be bought.

But just to play devil's advocate here...
There are four major problems with this gun: Bubbaed, incomplete, mismatching, poor condition. I can see how a "collectors' piece" could be forgiven of one of those problems in the name of capturing a rarity, but not all four. This is neither collectors' piece nor shooter, and with those problems I feel it contributes little to historical interest beyond serial studies.

I know that if I bought this gun, which I definitely would for the money involved, it would not stay with me for long, but that's just the way I am. Correct and matching are what do it for me. And dumping money to make an already incorrect gun complete is not fulfilling to me. I've tried. There are too many problems here. Too many excuses.

With all that said, I still think it must be owned. I've never even touched an NK and would be thrilled with the opportunity to own one, no matter how fleeting I knew the thrill would be.
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Re: Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2016, 02:08:01 PM »
While the front sight has damage, I'm not sure it is from bubba. While I'm not about to suggest it is battle damage, the damage itself is not uniform in nature. Even bubba tries to be uniform in his modifications. 

I'm looking at this as a placeholder in my collection. Pokemon sks. Gotta get them all.
RUSSIA SKS45: Tula 49, 50, 51 x2, 53 x2, 54, 57(И); Izhevsk 53, 54
POLAND SKS45: "W.P." Marked Tula 52
CHINA TYPE 56 CARBINE: /26\ 60 "S", 61, 64, 65, 66, 79; /UK5?\ 69; /256\ 70; /316\ 70; [0138] Stamped Receiver 70 x2; /306\ 71; /416\ 公安 73; /0412\ 78
CHINA Civilian: SKS-D (XZ), "SKS-D", Cdn Para x2
N. KOREA: T63
YUGO PAP M59: 66 C-Series x2; PAP M59/66a1: 73 J, 83 T
ALBANIA 561: 78

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Re: Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2016, 10:17:59 AM »
While the front sight has damage, I'm not sure it is from bubba. While I'm not about to suggest it is battle damage, the damage itself is not uniform in nature. Even bubba tries to be uniform in his modifications. 

I'm looking at this as a placeholder in my collection. Pokemon sks. Gotta get them all.

I kind of thought possible battle damage, certainly not bubba...I hope.  What else could do that other than a bullet? It is some strange damage that seems improbable in so many ways...and due to it's incomplete nature, I think kind of adds to what allure still it has to offer.   If any of it looks fresh, it is possible someone did the unthinkable,and tried to file it up to look nice.

What is the likelihood you will ever have the chance again? I was kind of kidding about the Polish stock, but those did come un serialed right?

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Re: Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2016, 10:57:58 AM »
Funny thing.  I was zooming into the visible S/N's to try and get an inkling of what this gun and I believe it's likely ㄹㅊ0223_ㄷ.  I've got a ㄹㅊ0223_? in my records with a bit of a question mark with the suffix either being a ㄷ or a ㅁ.  Coincidences of having found 0223s with both suffixes are unlikely so I dug deeper.  I believe that I've got photos of this one already:






Got them from CGN: http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/535215-North-Korean-SKS

Also a thread on SKS Boards where it's briefly (very briefly) discussed: http://www.SKSboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=79277.0

This gun was around back in 2010!  thumb1
      

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Re: Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2016, 11:00:46 AM »
Looks like fresh in the white cuts with a pair of dykes with a side order of didn't work out so great to me....  I could be wrong.


      
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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2016, 11:02:06 AM »
One thing that bothers me is what happened to the line of corrosion/bluing wear going across the top of the receiver cover.  I hope someone didn't try to cold blue that line away to make it look better.  Might be an area to examine a bit more closely if/when you look at it in person fencline.  Maybe it was just some dried grease or other gunk that came off easily? 

I think you could set this gun up with a bunch of Chinese replacement hardware and it would still be 'correct' in many eyes.  Many VN bringbacks had Chinese type 56 replacement hardware on them, from stocks to magazines to gas tubes.  Not a stretch to see an NK frankengun and have it still be period correct. thumb1
      

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Re: Do I do it? (NK63 for Sale...)
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2016, 12:19:17 PM »

I kind of thought possible battle damage, certainly not bubba...I hope.  What else could do that other than a bullet? It is some strange damage that seems improbable in so many ways...and due to it's incomplete nature, I think kind of adds to what allure still it has to offer.

One thing, it's not just the bullets.. it can be worse than actual bullets, it could be possible shrapnel damage, it rips and tears through everything and does weird unconventional things to both man and metal. All it takes in one chunk moving the right way and it cuts and clears it's own path.

I found this damage under one of my Mosin hand guards.





Can you get a clearer shot of the damage, if it were side cutters or something of the nature the metal should have like a v formation in the cut and be fairly even, if it is shrapnel or maybe even a bullet, the metal should look ripped torn away and jagged.
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