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The B's Knees!
« on: October 21, 2023, 11:21:07 PM »
Glad to have gotten this one a few months back after looking for a long time. And here it is:
















































































































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Re: The B's Knees!
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2023, 12:50:00 AM »
OH... that "B" real nice right thar.. thumb1 drool2  so uhm.. like you just got it a bit ago, the attachment level isn't there yet.. can I have it?   rofl2 chuckles1
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Re: The B's Knees!
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2023, 01:02:30 AM »
Nah, hey Greasemonkey I wouldn't do that to you...this hunkajunk looks WAY worse in real life!  :)
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Re: The B's Knees!
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2023, 09:00:52 AM »
Most EXCELLENT unicorn, looks like it missed any combat  thumb1 PAX
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Re: The B's Knees!
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2023, 11:00:00 AM »
A real beauty for certain!  Pretty high S/N too...in fact the highest I have recorded for the B block  :o

This one first surfaced in 2015:






Looks like she was in really good shape then as well.  thumb1
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Re: The B's Knees!
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2023, 09:10:16 PM »
Very cool, Running Man! I was unaware that this one had surfaced before, and it's a definite privilege to be able to share it here now.
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Re: The B's Knees!
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2023, 03:24:44 PM »
You'd be surprised how many firearms recycle through the market over the course of 5-8 years or so. 

It's nice having the old photos since when a suspect gun comes up that a member posts up wanting other members to scrutinize, sometime the old photos can tell us what was done to hump the gun.  I can think of several Russian SKSs that have had work to them done that we might never have known but for old photos.  thumb1
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Re: The B's Knees!
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2023, 10:26:09 PM »
I reckon that's true enough. I followed 50456 for a LONG time and never thought I'd have the opportunity to acquire it, but persistence (and continual reference and queries about previous posts, photos, and info from other venues) finally brought it home. And thanks for the kind remarks.

So this one is a bookend for the upper range of the B series? Is there any additional info at this time from primary sources regarding the startup of serial production of the M59? And as far as you know, is SKSDude's 15001 the low end?
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Re: The B's Knees!
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2023, 11:30:19 PM »
Nothing I've seen has been in-between the long barreled M59s , they go to 100 or so... and the B series that seems to picked up around 15k serial...  Ive often wondered is there an.... I guess an A series..  so from ~100 to ~15000 is a void thus far.  Especially since the long barrel rifles are usually deemed "prototype".  Maybe.. just maybe they exist... But who really knows, short of the people in the factories back in the day.
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Re: The B's Knees!
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2023, 11:43:49 PM »
Same thoughts and questions. If there were about 100 long barrels and roughly 100 regular-length barreled rifles in the pre-production trial series (if I remember correctly from B. Bogdanovic), were the 100 regular-length rifles the "A" rifles? Or were the trial rifles of both lengths considered by the JNA/Yugoslavian government as the "A" rifles? Would the B series starting at about B-15000 just be a means to obscure true production numbers from "evil" capitalist nations?
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Re: The B's Knees!
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2023, 01:50:30 AM »
Them age old communist nation questions.. the world may never know..   :)  when I see it, I'll believe it, till then.. it's like the myths.. and mysteries of the unknown.
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Re: The B's Knees!
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2023, 03:24:47 PM »
Condition being equal, wonderin' how does the value of the M59 line up compared to a 59/66, Tula, M-21, PS or...? 🤔
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Re: The B's Knees!
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2023, 11:35:21 PM »
Ah, the old cliche' comes to mind: "It's worth what someone will pay for it!" I used to really not like that statement from a supervisor of mine from the distant past. But to work towards an answer to your question by asking questions, how many B prefix rifles are out there? Has the site only come across 5 or 10 of these (documented, undeniable specimens)? Is this rifle truly the upper end of production, with B-15001 the first? Does anyone know of a former Zastava employee who might be willing to shed light on SKS manufacture in the former Yugoslavia?
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Re: The B's Knees!
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2023, 03:38:49 AM »
Great find! M59s are uncommon and the B block is definitely scarce!

Ah, the mysterious missing A block. Mysteries are part of the fun with these old milsurps, and the hope that you might be the one to uncover some good information.



Can’t believe it’s already been 8 years since I found mine.
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Re: The B's Knees!
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2023, 10:51:26 PM »
One other question is why did they transition from the darker fine grain stocks to the different cut course lighter grain stocks.




Guess...uhm....teak was to expensive rofl2 rofl2 chuckles1 ::) bat1
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Re: The B's Knees!
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2023, 01:02:14 PM »
Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 31, 2023, 10:51:26 PM
One other question is why did they transition from the darker fine grain stocks to the different cut course lighter grain stocks.




Guess...uhm....teak was to expensive rofl2 rofl2 chuckles1 ::) bat1

The Macedonian Navy used up the global teak supply in their massive tall ship building program in the 60’s  ;)
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