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Title: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: firstchoice on October 17, 2016, 05:23:59 AM
I hadn't realized there were a couple different styles of the Chinese RPK-style rifles.

The Type 81S and the Type 81MGS, imported by China Sports: (based on the Chinese Type 81 Rifle)
Very few Type 81's got in by '89. I had the chance to buy one, complete with the bayonet and scabbard, (which I would've bought the rifle just to get that cool bayonet!  chuckles1 ) I still kick myself regularly for passing that one up!  cry1

(http://chicom47.com/Pics/Norinco81.JPG)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Machine_gun_Type81.jpg)

And the Norinco Type 86-S7, also imported by China Sports Inc.

(http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/26022Norinco_87s.jpg)

A PolyTech .223 RPK: (Polytech may have designated their .223 model as a Type 84-S7, not sure on that?)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e224/mkm33/223PolytechRPK.jpg)

Same PolyTech .223 fitted with Russian RPK wood:

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e224/mkm33/Polytech223RPK.jpg)

Note that the Chinese Club Foot Stock is about 2" longer than the Russian RPK laminated stock (and a bit taller):

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e224/mkm33/RPKButts.jpg)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e224/mkm33/RPKButts2.jpg)

Notice how the original Type 86-S7's had the bipod mounted in front of the FSB and the NHM-91's are mounted behind the FSB. If I remember correctly, this is because the 86-S7's had a 24" barrel and the NHM-91's had a 20" barrel. But I don't have access to a 86-S7 to confirm that.

And a pic of that cool looking Chinese Type 81 bayonet. (Not applicable for RPK-style rifles, but still cool. 8) )

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Bayonets/ChineseType81AKBayonet.jpg)

firstchoice
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: fenceline on October 17, 2016, 09:20:38 AM
Type 81 has a different operating system than the RPK. Visually similar but internally different.
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Greasemonkey on October 17, 2016, 10:51:44 AM
The Type 81 has a gas system very much like a Vz58, it's not by all accounts....a true Ak, maybe more of a hybrid or crossbred with the Vz or SKS. Also, it like the Ak is built on a 1.5mm stamped receiver. They even figured in an adjustable gas system in to it. Now, as I understand they also had an experimental rifle, the 66-136 they built and designed the Type-81 around and modified to suit. It's spanned the whole spectrum, from RPK to bullpup design.

I had this article kicking around, so I converted it to photo and posted it. Lots if interesting stuff, from back when they actually wrote. :)

(http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af283/C13mechanic/Chinese%20stuff/Type81/type81a_zpsf1iiu2et.jpg) (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/C13mechanic/media/Chinese%20stuff/Type81/type81a_zpsf1iiu2et.jpg.html) (http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af283/C13mechanic/Chinese%20stuff/Type81/type81b_zpssa2q2gze.jpg) (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/C13mechanic/media/Chinese%20stuff/Type81/type81b_zpssa2q2gze.jpg.html)
(http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af283/C13mechanic/Chinese%20stuff/Type81/type81c_zps5biiyjts.jpg) (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/C13mechanic/media/Chinese%20stuff/Type81/type81c_zps5biiyjts.jpg.html)
(http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af283/C13mechanic/Chinese%20stuff/Type81/type81_zpsnav0ke6m.jpg) (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/C13mechanic/media/Chinese%20stuff/Type81/type81_zpsnav0ke6m.jpg.html)
(http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af283/C13mechanic/Chinese%20stuff/Type81/type81d_zpspomiffqf.jpg) (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/C13mechanic/media/Chinese%20stuff/Type81/type81d_zpspomiffqf.jpg.html)
(http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af283/C13mechanic/Chinese%20stuff/Type81/type81e_zpsgjlcdpji.jpg) (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/C13mechanic/media/Chinese%20stuff/Type81/type81e_zpsgjlcdpji.jpg.html)
(http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af283/C13mechanic/Chinese%20stuff/Type81/type81f_zpsjhdlfnm6.jpg) (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/C13mechanic/media/Chinese%20stuff/Type81/type81f_zpsjhdlfnm6.jpg.html)
(http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af283/C13mechanic/Chinese%20stuff/Type81/type81g_zpsfcnnfojn.jpg) (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/C13mechanic/media/Chinese%20stuff/Type81/type81g_zpsfcnnfojn.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Phosphorus32 on October 18, 2016, 11:42:13 AM
Great info!  I gather that the Type 81s are very rare in the US  ???  There must be some with talk of the aftermarket rail and foregrip etc.

It's interesting how the Chinese firearm industry evolved from inventing gunpowder, to strictly imported firearms by the late 19th to early 20th century, to licensed copies under the new Communist regime, to new designs with borrowed elements (which honestly, is true of most firearms).

Maybe we can put together a group buy for a bunch from Sri Lanka or Bangladesh that have been in the country for at least 10 years.  I mean they got them for $175 a pop, we could give them a decent profit and still get a nice deal.  Anyone have the time and import licenses...and connections in Sri Lanka?  chuckles1
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: gregsthe1 on October 20, 2016, 12:12:13 PM
Don't forget about the milled Polytech Legend National Match 20" RPK!
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: scottyB on July 14, 2018, 08:52:35 PM
I love me sum RPKs

Looked for a Chinese one for long time and ended up with a NHM91.  A compromise but it is a nice shooter.
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: firstchoice on July 14, 2018, 11:21:37 PM
I love me sum RPKs

Looked for a Chinese one for long time and ended up with a NHM91.  A compromise but it is a nice shooter.

Did you leave the thumbhole stock on the NHM-91 or were you able to find the clubfoot stock set for it? The NHM-91's are excellent rifles. Post up some pics of yours anytime!

firstchoice
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: scottyB on July 15, 2018, 09:56:48 PM
I actually trimmed the thumb hole stock to resemble the Chinese clubfoot version but lacking the reinforcement pins it seemed not up to the task and I put a Russian RPK stock on it.
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Greasemonkey on July 16, 2018, 01:02:38 AM
Mine still has the thumbhole stock.. Haven't shot it much, I kinda have more fun with the other one in the photo chuckles1

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/t3xjwgqzaj2z89z/SAM_2165_zpsr7niuiop.jpg?dl=0)
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: sksmcrossvilletn on July 16, 2018, 05:09:21 AM
I've always wanted one of the type 81's.
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: firstchoice on July 16, 2018, 04:35:42 PM
I actually trimmed the thumb hole stock to resemble the Chinese clubfoot version but lacking the reinforcement pins it seemed not up to the task and I put a Russian RPK stock on it.

Did it take much time to trim the Russian RPK stock to fit the NHM-91 receiver? I have the same dilemma with my NHM-91. I can't find the original Chinese RPK furniture for less than the cost of another RPK,  nea1 , but I did find a set of nice Russian RPK furniture. I haven't taken the plunge, yet, into permanently altering that set of wood to fit it.   

Mine still has the thumbhole stock.. Haven't shot it much, I kinda have more fun with the other one in the photo chuckles1

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/t3xjwgqzaj2z89z/SAM_2165_zpsr7niuiop.jpg?dl=0)

Well, yah!   drool2 drool2 drool2   I see pics of that and my mind goes to the Gollum and "my precious". 

I've always wanted one of the type 81's.

Same here! All I can find now are the Type 81 bayonets. And I "had" to buy one of those. I suppose I could tape it onto something and make believe.  dntknw1  I remember passing up one of the few semi-auto Type 81's that made it into the country because it "was too much money".  banghead1  I can't imagine that I would have stayed sorry about money spent for too long. 

firstchoice
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: scottyB on July 18, 2018, 07:14:36 PM
Not hard, just sand a bit and fit, sand a bit and fit.  Eventually it goes on.

Here are my Russian and Serb cousins.

(https://i.imgur.com/5p59hCZl.jpg)
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: scottyB on July 18, 2018, 07:21:36 PM

(https://preview.ibb.co/nctERy/96_9u_SG4o_Z.jpg) (https://ibb.co/idgOKJ)


(https://preview.ibb.co/mi7r6y/93_6_Sc_S0_LE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g5LB6y)


(https://preview.ibb.co/jJmUtd/95_p_Ghat_Gr.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j2LYKJ)
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: firstchoice on July 21, 2018, 07:04:19 PM

(https://preview.ibb.co/nctERy/96_9u_SG4o_Z.jpg) (https://ibb.co/idgOKJ)


(https://preview.ibb.co/mi7r6y/93_6_Sc_S0_LE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g5LB6y)


(https://preview.ibb.co/jJmUtd/95_p_Ghat_Gr.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j2LYKJ)

  Is this the stock that you reworked from the original NHM-91 Thumbhole stock?  Looks good!  I can see what you were concerned about for reinforcement pins. You could probably fit your own pins or just use it for display and looking good!

firstchoice
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: firstchoice on July 21, 2018, 07:08:34 PM
Not hard, just sand a bit and fit, sand a bit and fit.  Eventually it goes on.

Here are my Russian and Serb cousins.

(https://i.imgur.com/5p59hCZl.jpg)

Nice cousins to have!  Is that an actual Russian RPK kit?

firstchoice
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: scottyB on July 22, 2018, 04:04:44 PM
It is Russian, Molot Arsenal  1978.  Not 100% matching and it was apparently a training rifle that would only fire blanks.  At least that was the story the guy who I got it from said was feasible.  Its built with an AKBuilder barrel on a Nodak receiver and side rail.  It shoots ok and I like to break it out every so often for range time. 
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: scottyB on July 22, 2018, 04:08:43 PM

(https://preview.ibb.co/nctERy/96_9u_SG4o_Z.jpg) (https://ibb.co/idgOKJ)


(https://preview.ibb.co/mi7r6y/93_6_Sc_S0_LE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g5LB6y)


(https://preview.ibb.co/jJmUtd/95_p_Ghat_Gr.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j2LYKJ)

  Is this the stock that you reworked from the original NHM-91 Thumbhole stock?  Looks good!  I can see what you were concerned about for reinforcement pins. You could probably fit your own pins or just use it for display and looking good!

firstchoice

Yes it is, it would probably be alright but I had a spare RPK stock so I fitted it on.  I was pleased how it turned out.  Sort of redeems it from the thumbhole stock it was.
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: firstchoice on July 24, 2018, 05:03:32 AM
Did your NHM-91 still have the piece of pipe, or whatever it was, tacked onto the muzzle?  I'm wanting to take the plunge and de-ban my NHM-91 but I've always been hesitant, not knowing how much of a job it is to remove that faux compensator.  I can't tell if the threads are still underneath, or not.

Whoever made the thumbhole stock set for the NHM's did a fair job. The color of the finish on mine is a light shade of Walnut.

firstchoice
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: scottyB on July 24, 2018, 09:18:18 AM
Did your NHM-91 still have the piece of pipe, or whatever it was, tacked onto the muzzle?  I'm wanting to take the plunge and de-ban my NHM-91 but I've always been hesitant, not knowing how much of a job it is to remove that faux compensator.  I can't tell if the threads are still underneath, or not.

Whoever made the thumbhole stock set for the NHM's did a fair job. The color of the finish on mine is a light shade of Walnut.

firstchoice

Mine came with a muzzle nut, it was not welded on.  I found a reasonable muzzle device on GB that was nearly identical to pictures I have seen online of the originals and after some filing to fit it timed in nicely.
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: firstchoice on July 25, 2018, 04:49:05 AM
Did your NHM-91 still have the piece of pipe, or whatever it was, tacked onto the muzzle?  I'm wanting to take the plunge and de-ban my NHM-91 but I've always been hesitant, not knowing how much of a job it is to remove that faux compensator.  I can't tell if the threads are still underneath, or not.

Whoever made the thumbhole stock set for the NHM's did a fair job. The color of the finish on mine is a light shade of Walnut.

firstchoice

Mine came with a muzzle nut, it was not welded on.  I found a reasonable muzzle device on GB that was nearly identical to pictures I have seen online of the originals and after some filing to fit it timed in nicely.

Well, after thinking about it, I should have said that it was my Chinese NHM-90 .223 that has the "piece of pipe" tacked onto the muzzle. My NHM-90 came built on the pre-ban underfolder receiver and used a spacer rivit and caps to cover the UF mounting holes. It must have been brought in and got caught in customs when the AWB went into effect.  It was sold with the thumbhole stock, of course. I may have just picked up a stock set for use in de-banning it. I think I have all the 922r parts for it now.

The Chinese NHM-91 7.62 has the muzzle nut, probably the same as yours. I can't seem to break it loose to take the muzzle nut off and replace it with whatever muzzle device that I decide to use. I do know about the detent spring and pin and also that it's left hand threads. thumb1 14x1LH threads? Are there any members here with the NHM-91's that had any trouble removing the origianl muzzle nut? Has anyone had to pull the detent spring retaining pin, in order to release pressure or ?? I carefully dabbed some PB Blaster into the threaded area on the barrel and behind the muzzle nut.


(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20NHM-91%20762x39mm/2018-07-24%20NHM_91%20005_zpsbisw9bcg.jpg)

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20NHM-91%20762x39mm/2018-07-24%20NHM_91%20007_zpsytiitocd.jpg)

Some day I'll get some good daylight, outdoor pics to show the color of the wood. Using flash indoors sucks, for me, anyway. It washes out the color and detail.

I put my /416\ Chinese 公安 PS Rifle next to the NHM-91 for color comparison.


(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20NHM-91%20762x39mm/8ff4f339-f0e6-4a35-8a1e-8c22856a4eee_zpsz6jnuqiq.jpg)

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20NHM-91%20762x39mm/81070d57-fb67-4ec2-89be-ec0b98564711_zpswd1ubevw.jpg)


firstchoice
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Cupid on September 17, 2020, 09:23:39 PM
A load of there things have recently been imported into Canada. $1500 Canadian

(https://i.imgur.com/nt0QHEP.jpg)
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Larry D. on September 17, 2020, 11:15:13 PM
Did I ever mention the need for an exchange program?
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Justin Hell on September 18, 2020, 12:48:32 AM
I think I might live closest to Cupid.
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Larry D. on September 18, 2020, 01:16:14 PM
I think I might live closest to Cupid.

Good.
You can handle the shipping for the rest of us... 
I'll take 2 Russians, a Norkie 1911, and......wait....make that 2 Norkie 1911's....
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Greatguns on September 18, 2020, 01:24:13 PM
I think I might live closest to Cupid.

Good.
You can handle the shipping for the rest of us... 
I'll take 2 Russians, a Norkie 1911, and......wait....make that 2 Norkie 1911's....

Do you want ammo with those weapons??? And we're all out of 1911s, would you like some Tokarevs instead?
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Justin Hell on September 18, 2020, 01:28:58 PM
I think I might live closest to Cupid.

Good.
You can handle the shipping for the rest of us... 
I'll take 2 Russians, a Norkie 1911, and......wait....make that 2 Norkie 1911's....

Unfortunately I am not allowed in Canada. Although I did jump off a cruise ship to locate some relief, and met a couple guys in the process that I swear must have been the inspiration for the two lacky guys on Trailer Park Boys.
Actually, I don't even like going too far north in Montana....that 100 mile constitution free zone from the border inward kind of irks me.
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Phosphorus32 on September 18, 2020, 02:58:02 PM
PSA for the ATF: we are all just joking. If any transfer of firearms from Canada to the USA were to occur they would proceed exclusively for firearms eligible for importation into the USA and would be fully compliant with all cfr mandated requirements as overseen by BATFE and other federal and state agencies.


(https://i.ibb.co/X5GGBPF/ATF-meme.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Larry D. on September 18, 2020, 07:52:27 PM
I think I might live closest to Cupid.

Good.
You can handle the shipping for the rest of us... 
I'll take 2 Russians, a Norkie 1911, and......wait....make that 2 Norkie 1911's....

Do you want ammo with those weapons??? And we're all out of 1911s, would you like some Tokarevs instead?

I'm good on ammo, unless I get a side order of Tok's......
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Justin Hell on September 18, 2020, 08:27:40 PM
Yes, seriously joking.
If I got one of these I would likely put an eye out trying to unpin a five round drum.
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Phosphorus32 on September 18, 2020, 08:33:32 PM
Yes, seriously joking.
If I got one of these I would likely put an eye out trying to unpin a five round drum.

rofl

Five round drum magazine is definitely a non-sequitir  ???
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Cupid on September 18, 2020, 11:32:21 PM
I would prefer a basic type 81 over that... It would be good for mounting on my sidecar but that's about all, too big and cumbersome for much else, I already have a gun mount. Replica guns are illegal here and I could be prosecuted for having one, but a working gun is 100% legal.

(https://i.imgur.com/jiLjaSF.jpg)
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Larry D. on September 18, 2020, 11:43:59 PM
Ural?
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Cupid on September 18, 2020, 11:46:25 PM
Ural?

Chang Jiang M1M   It's a flat head. 
(https://i.imgur.com/9q6jSJN.jpg)

This batch is sold out now anyway.

http://www.tacticalimports.ca/type-81-lmg-limited-edition-phosphate-p-641.html
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Larry D. on September 18, 2020, 11:53:14 PM
That's funny.

The Russian stole an entire BMW factory and made the Ural.
The Chicoms revers engineered the Zundapp. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang_Jiang_(motorcycle)

Both are classic German WWII motorcycles.

Bet it's more dependable than a Ural.
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Cupid on September 19, 2020, 12:26:47 AM
That's funny.

The Russian stole an entire BMW factory and made the Ural.
The Chicoms revers engineered the Zundapp. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang_Jiang_(motorcycle)

Both are classic German WWII motorcycles.

Bet it's more dependable than a Ural.

It's essentially a BMW R71, many parts are interchangeable with the original. It's a 1930's design that is high maintenance . The Chinese were given the tooling by the Russians, they were built until the early 80's.
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Bob_The_Student on September 19, 2020, 04:56:30 PM
I would prefer a basic type 81 over that... It would be good for mounting on my sidecar but that's about all, too big and cumbersome for much else, I already have a gun mount. Replica guns are illegal here and I could be prosecuted for having one, but a working gun is 100% legal.

(https://i.imgur.com/jiLjaSF.jpg)

I'm not a motorcycle guy but that's just freak'n cool.  thumb1
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Phosphorus32 on September 19, 2020, 05:26:48 PM
Very cool! A good buddy back in Minnesota had a Ural for quite a few years. Good old communist reverse engineering of capitalist technology  :))
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Cupid on September 21, 2020, 12:27:52 AM
They have sold all the ones they imported but they expect another shipment before Christmas, I might get one.

There are no optic mounts available for this rifle, but I have a good idea what will work perfectly. LOL
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Cupid on September 21, 2020, 12:52:28 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/CkeaCUu.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VUjFJNY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Ql9V5jU.jpg)
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: firstchoice on September 26, 2020, 05:48:23 AM
I know the Type 81 and the Kalashnikov are two very different animals, but I wonder if the furniture is interchangeable at all? I've been looking for a set of Chinese Type 84/RPK-style furniture since, forever, with no luck. I don't know if stock sets could be legally imported from Canada?  I'd do it in a heartbeat, if so.  thumb1  It would return my NHM-91 to it's original glory.

firstchoice
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Greatguns on September 26, 2020, 10:07:49 AM
I know the Type 81 and the Kalashnikov are two very different animals, but I wonder if the furniture is interchangeable at all? I've been looking for a set of Chinese Type 84/RPK-style furniture since, forever, with no luck. I don't know if stock sets could be legally imported from Canada?  I'd do it in a heartbeat, if so.  thumb1  It would return my NHM-91 to it's original glory.

firstchoice


I just bought a scrubbed Laminated Russian SKS stock off of Ebay from Canada so for furniture, it may be possible.
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Bob_The_Student on September 26, 2020, 01:51:50 PM
Was that the 3 figure one that was posted?
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Greatguns on September 26, 2020, 05:22:23 PM
Was that the 3 figure one that was posted?

Yeah, IIRC it was $103 and change USD complete with hardware and matching laminate HG. He had hardwood SKS stocks for $60 + shipping as well, but they may be all gone by now. Point on this thread, of course, is that it came from Canada so RPK furniture from Canada may be a possibility.
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Cupid on September 26, 2020, 06:08:38 PM
I know the Type 81 and the Kalashnikov are two very different animals, but I wonder if the furniture is interchangeable at all? I've been looking for a set of Chinese Type 84/RPK-style furniture since, forever, with no luck. I don't know if stock sets could be legally imported from Canada?  I'd do it in a heartbeat, if so.  thumb1  It would return my NHM-91 to it's original glory.

firstchoice


Not yet, but maybe soon.
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Cupid on September 26, 2020, 06:48:56 PM
There has been some quality issues with the type 81 folder, but a friend should soon have his type 81 LMG.  I'm on the fence until I know if the issues have been sorted.

(https://i.imgur.com/TpIDjdJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: firstchoice on September 30, 2020, 04:19:52 AM
I know the Type 81 and the Kalashnikov are two very different animals, but I wonder if the furniture is interchangeable at all? I've been looking for a set of Chinese Type 84/RPK-style furniture since, forever, with no luck. I don't know if stock sets could be legally imported from Canada?  I'd do it in a heartbeat, if so.  thumb1  It would return my NHM-91 to it's original glory.

firstchoice


Not yet, but maybe soon.

You members from Canada... thumb1... In the recent past, have your importers been bringing in parts and accessories for the Kalashnikov rifles? Specifically, replacement NOS or BFPU stock sets for the Chinese AKM's and/or the Type 81? I'm needing a NOS Chinese (full) stock set for the AKM and the Type 84/RPK-style "clubfoot" stock set.

I want to stay with the original Chinese manufactured stock sets rather than "something that would fit".

Thanks in advance for inquiring about it , if you will.

firstchoice
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Cupid on September 30, 2020, 01:04:30 PM
This is madness. Sold for $ 37,375 USD   :o

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/77/1817/very-rare-norinco-model-313-semiautomatic-rifle
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Justin Hell on September 30, 2020, 02:00:19 PM
This is madness. Sold for $ 37,375 USD   :o

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/77/1817/very-rare-norinco-model-313-semiautomatic-rifle
:o
I think by the time I got to that kind of gun collecting...I would already have more tanks in my yard than parking spots in the driveway. My daily driver would be a Sherman.
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Bacarnal on October 04, 2020, 11:04:34 AM
Agree with Justin, though mine would be a Stuart (M3 or M5) or a Hellcat.  Gotta worry about the fuel thumb1.
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Larry D. on October 04, 2020, 04:28:53 PM
No love for the King Tiger?
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Phosphorus32 on October 07, 2020, 12:50:33 PM
No love for the King Tiger?

It's a gas hog, as the Germans found out. I'm waiting for the hybrid version  :o rofl
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Larry D. on October 07, 2020, 04:22:43 PM
No love for the King Tiger?

It's a gas hog, as the Germans found out. I'm waiting for the hybrid version  :o rofl

King Prius?

You might  have something there..... clap1
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: firstchoice on October 09, 2020, 01:36:21 AM
The armored museum at Ft. Knox was really great to go through. About every tank on the list there. There was a huge German behemoth that dwarfed the King Tiger. Don't remember its name.

firstchoice
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Phosphorus32 on October 09, 2020, 05:04:25 AM
The armored museum at Ft. Knox was really great to go through. About every tank on the list there. There was a huge German behemoth that dwarfed the King Tiger. Don't remember its name.

firstchoice

Elefant?
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: firstchoice on October 10, 2020, 02:16:58 AM
The armored museum at Ft. Knox was really great to go through. About every tank on the list there. There was a huge German behemoth that dwarfed the King Tiger. Don't remember its name.

firstchoice

Elefant?

I don't remember for sure P32. I went there twice when my son was going through basic training at the fort. That's been about 25 years ago. The thing that stuck in my mind was not only the overall size of the tank but the width of the tracks. They must have been at least 4.5-5 feet wide! Little wonder the tank never caught on. I need to check and see if there's any online site for that museum. I remember looking at the vehicle that General Patton crashed in and later died from the injuries incured. They had everything from field artillery to jeeps and lots of tanks. Really an interesting place.

firstchoice
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Greatguns on October 10, 2020, 02:46:30 PM
Was this the tank of which you speak? Panzer VIII Maus https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Metro-maus1.jpg
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Phosphorus32 on October 10, 2020, 05:03:24 PM
The armored museum at Ft. Knox was really great to go through. About every tank on the list there. There was a huge German behemoth that dwarfed the King Tiger. Don't remember its name.

firstchoice

Elefant?

I don't remember for sure P32. I went there twice when my son was going through basic training at the fort. That's been about 25 years ago. The thing that stuck in my mind was not only the overall size of the tank but the width of the tracks. They must have been at least 4.5-5 feet wide! Little wonder the tank never caught on. I need to check and see if there's any online site for that museum. I remember looking at the vehicle that General Patton crashed in and later died from the injuries incured. They had everything from field artillery to jeeps and lots of tanks. Really an interesting place.

firstchoice

Nice, I'd like to get there someday. When I lived in MD, doing a one year postdoctoral fellowship at the Army lab that was literally downrange from Aberdeen Proving Ground in the Edgewood Area, I went to the museum at APG. A lot of cool stuff but it sounds like Ft. Knox may have even more cool things.
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: firstchoice on October 11, 2020, 02:59:26 AM
Was this the tank of which you speak? Panzer VIII Maus https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Metro-maus1.jpg

No GG, the one I saw was a LOT wider with exposed tracks. Huge. I see that's the "Elefant" that P32 was talking about. Definitely not the one I was referring to, though. The memory of those tracks will always stay with me! If I recall correctly, less than a half-dozen were ever built. I wish I could remember if it was a working model or not. Seems like many, if not most all the vehicles there were in operable condition. That could be a tall order on a bunch of those old vehicles, though.

The armored museum at Ft. Knox was really great to go through. About every tank on the list there. There was a huge German behemoth that dwarfed the King Tiger. Don't remember its name.

firstchoice

Elefant?

I don't remember for sure P32. I went there twice when my son was going through basic training at the fort. That's been about 25 years ago. The thing that stuck in my mind was not only the overall size of the tank but the width of the tracks. They must have been at least 4.5-5 feet wide! Little wonder the tank never caught on. I need to check and see if there's any online site for that museum. I remember looking at the vehicle that General Patton crashed in and later died from the injuries incured. They had everything from field artillery to jeeps and lots of tanks. Really an interesting place.

firstchoice

Nice, I'd like to get there someday. When I lived in MD, doing a one year postdoctoral fellowship at the Army lab that was literally downrange from Aberdeen Proving Ground in the Edgewood Area, I went to the museum at APG. A lot of cool stuff but it sounds like Ft. Knox may have even more cool things.

Wow, I've been looking through the internet, trying to find info about the museum at Ft. Knox, (which was called the Patton Museum of Cavalry and Armour), and discovered that the museum was dismantled and 80+% of the tanks were moved to the National Armor and Cavalry Museum near Ft. Benning, Georgia during the 2010-2013 years. From what I've gathered from feedback of people that had been to the Patton Museum at Ft. Knox, it's a sad shell of what it was. The US Army's Armor School was apparently moved from Ft. Knox to Ft. Benning around 2012.

I've looked for pictures of the tanks either at the old museum or the new facility but only found a few of the US tanks. One source says "The main collection is still housed at a restoration and storage facility and is not opened to the public." about the remainder of the vehicles taken from Ft. Knox to Ft. Benning. I'll keep looking though.

Ya don't watch for a few years and look what they do!  bat1  I do want to find out what the name of that tank was, though!

firstchoice
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Cupid on October 12, 2020, 12:04:28 PM
I just bought a type 81 LMG, hopefully the postie will bring it at the end of the week.
Title: Re: Speaking of Chinese RPK-style rifles...
Post by: Phosphorus32 on October 12, 2020, 04:37:57 PM
I just bought a type 81 LMG, hopefully the postie will bring it at the end of the week.

Very cool. Looking forward to seeing it  :o 8)