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General Milsurp Weapons => Milsurp Hand Guns & Sub Guns => Topic started by: Phosphorus32 on December 10, 2019, 03:47:20 PM
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Picked this up at an auction just before my birthday in September. Just arrived a couple of weeks ago :o Auction houses can be really slow sometimes.
It's a 1944 Remington Rand that has been through the Rock Island Arsenal refurbishment facility where it acquired the RIA and FK (Frank Krack) inspector markings. Fortunately, it must have still been in good shape, since the original phosphate finish remains intact. The barrel may even be original, although that's not certain. RR did use Flannery (F marked) barrels, though the commonly accepted serial number range is 1.7-1.8 million for most of those F marked barrels.
(https://i.ibb.co/85Vx3DQ/00-Remington-Rand.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YkGd97V)
(https://i.ibb.co/tDYDhSr/01-left-full.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CQVQtqG)
(https://i.ibb.co/bHX1mdm/02-right-full.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZHxdXTX)
(https://i.ibb.co/wJwC8Cv/03-holster-front.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7gRVBV9)
(https://i.ibb.co/yVK0GZb/04-holster-rear.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PtJx3Pf)
(https://i.ibb.co/3NN3MbB/05-FJA-P.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4TTqYLP)
(https://i.ibb.co/XtNb99V/06-crossed-cannons.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tDk4SS3)
Rock Island Arsenal
(https://i.ibb.co/stmmfBB/08-flaming-bomb-RIA-FK.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vDwwFtt)
(https://i.ibb.co/6WhVBz0/09-rear-perspective.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gR1HVNZ)
P = Proof
(https://i.ibb.co/K6QgtLN/slide-P-proof.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7vTD3Rg)
(https://i.ibb.co/pP6pPrZ/barrel-P-proof.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yRmJRB5)
(https://i.ibb.co/th7wJF3/frame-left-P-FJA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8BWn7tX)
(https://i.ibb.co/W3RcRv4/frame-left-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TTNHNMx)
Flannery Barrel
(https://i.ibb.co/k5qVfZ0/barrel-F-Flannery.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jb392tG)
(https://i.ibb.co/MDh1Ym4/hammer.jpg) (https://ibb.co/d0cpdRq)
(https://i.ibb.co/vsPt53K/frame-right-markings.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cbFm567)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZGgmY2X/frame-crossed-cannons.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DzMp8rW)
(https://i.ibb.co/QHHCzc7/barrel-right.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vddQgBC)
(https://i.ibb.co/mCj6sZB/barrel-left.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7Jf2cMz)
(https://i.ibb.co/njz3yfM/barrel-installed.jpg) (https://ibb.co/w4MJqCh)
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P32 with another beauty. Stop it! You make me want one! bat1 chuckles1
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P32 with another beauty. Stop it! You make me want one! bat1 chuckles1
Thanks :)
Who me didnt do
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neat, luv the wear. thumb1
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neat, luv the wear. thumb1
Thanks Carl! I agree, that's what I'd call "honest wear" :)
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think1.. well ok, I like it thumb1 send it east please. Ya need the matching typewriter now... :)
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I guess its a 9mm Phos ? Nice pick up : ) I wonder if Ron Paul named his son after that thing : ) Did the holster come with it too ? Is is matching ? Mag also ? If you send it to Va you'll probably get thrown in jail these days chuckles1 chuckles1 Misery loves company.
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think1.. well ok, I like it thumb1 send it east please. Ya need the matching typewriter now... :)
:)) yes, I do need the typewriter or something...but it belongs out west :)
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I guess its a 9mm Phos ? Nice pick up : ) I wonder if Ron Paul named his son after that thing : ) Did the holster come with it too ? Is is matching ? Mag also ? If you send it to Va you'll probably get thrown in jail these days chuckles1 chuckles1 Misery loves company.
It’s a US Property M1911A1 so .45 ACP as Uncle Sam and JMB intended :))
Like most US military firearms it only has one serial number, but the proof marks on the frame slide and barrel are the same size and font, the finish on the slide and frame have the same color of phosphate and similar wear, and the barrel is the proper blued finish with a bare metal feed ramp, so likely original :)
I picked up the holster separately, but its WWII era also.
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Good lord!
What a beauty!
Original leather to boot.
Here's a gift: http://www.coolgunsite.com/pistols/Frame%20and%20Slide%20Markings.htm
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...but it belongs out west :)
:P Dont pay any attention to Correct Direction..
Just curious.. are the grip panels plastic..dang if they don't look like a carbon copy of my AO 1911 GI version.
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Good lord!
What a beauty!
Original leather to boot.
Here's a gift: http://www.coolgunsite.com/pistols/Frame%20and%20Slide%20Markings.htm
Thanks much Larry!
Yeah, that site is decent. The Clawson "Colt 45 Service Pistols" book would be great to have but it's cost is prohibitive.
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Just curious.. are the grip panels plastic..dang if they don't look like a carbon copy of my AO 1911 GI version.
Yup, they're the correct M1911A1 plastic grips. "Star K" marked, Keyes Fiber Co. (pics below) second variation grips with the reinforcing rings around the screw holes (seen in original set of pics).
(https://i.ibb.co/LRSBZ6X/IMG-1413.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4tWCVMn)
(https://i.ibb.co/qs9KKRg/IMG-1414.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R0PffC6)
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That thing is beginning to affect me emotionally........
I may be in love......
1911's are truly my first love. The first gun I ever bought new was a Colt Government model. I've owned probably 15 different ones in my lifetime, including 2 that were made in the teens.
Along with the love of 1911's, for me at least, is the love of the equipment that goes with it. Holsters, mag pouches, etc. I just bought 2 mag pouches this past weekend. 1 is a Mills pattern with markings too faded to read. The other is a pretty nice leather pouch dated either 1952 or 1962. The stamp is a little wonky. It's in great shape though, not creased and crushed as I usually see. It matches my holster pretty well. I also have a couple of the canvas jobs floating around here with 50's and 60's dates.
I also have some USGI issue manuals in storage.
All that to say that, in my opinion, you did just as well with the holster as you did with the pistol.
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That thing is beginning to affect me emotionally........
I may be in love......
1911's are truly my first love. The first gun I ever bought new was a Colt Government model. I've owned probably 15 different ones in my lifetime, including 2 that were made in the teens.
Along with the love of 1911's, for me at least, is the love of the equipment that goes with it. Holsters, mag pouches, etc. I just bought 2 mag pouches this past weekend. 1 is a Mills pattern with markings too faded to read. The other is a pretty nice leather pouch dated either 1952 or 1962. The stamp is a little wonky. It's in great shape though, not creased and crushed as I usually see. It matches my holster pretty well. I also have a couple of the canvas jobs floating around here with 50's and 60's dates.
I also have some USGI issue manuals in storage.
All that to say that, in my opinion, you did just as well with the holster as you did with the pistol.
Thanks! This is my first GI 1911. It was a good entry level price (these days). I'm very happy with it and the trigger is actually very crisp. I may need to find a WWI era M1911 eventually :)
I picked up the Boyt holster in a two holster auction lot where the other was an Enger Kress M7 shoulder holster that has the shoulder strap but is missing the wrap around strap. I was even happier with the Boyt when I received it than what I saw in the auction pics. I really like that nice reddish-brown color, which merely looked like a muted brown in the auction pics.
A WWII era magazine pouch would be nice to have eventually. Then hook up the whole rig to a correct belt with a canteen.
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I have a buddy that's looking for a decent M7 at a good price if anyone runs across one.
He's the same guy with the AK related stuff I get.
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A WWII era magazine pouch would be nice to have eventually. Then hook up the whole rig to a correct belt with a canteen.
I'll need to dig. I might have something here. Maybe a khaki belt. That Mills pattern mag pouch I got has the snap to keep it in the front of the belt. I was thinking that was a WWII thing, but I'm not 100% sure. I'm not married to that either.
I do have a WWII backpack if anyone is interested.
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You did well for a first example. Really, really well.
It survived the arsenal overhaul with the original finish. Many came out as mixmaster mutts, with a sand-blast look and uniform battleship gray park. Your slide still has the darker hues which came from differing temper.
The grips could have been made just down the road from me, at Kyes Fiber in Waterville, ME.
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You did well for a first example. Really, really well.
It survived the arsenal overhaul with the original finish. Many came out as mixmaster mutts, with a sand-blast look and uniform battleship gray park. Your slide still has the darker hues which came from differing temper.
The grips could have been made just down the road from me, at Kyes Fiber in Waterville, ME.
Thanks M08! I'm very happy with it, and the delivered cost was only about $150 more than a CMP "roll the dice" refurb.
I love all the primary and secondary contractors involved in manufacturing these firearms. WWII certainly involved total mobilization of industry for the war effort.