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General Milsurp Weapons => Milsurp Rifles & Carbines => American Curios & Relics => Topic started by: Phosphorus32 on October 27, 2020, 12:53:26 PM
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A good article on the actual M1 Garand carbine testing by the living authority on American WW1 and WW2 military small arms.
Short version: there are only a couple authentic test examples and they're in museums.
https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2020/10/26/tanker-garands-the-real-story?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=insider&utm_campaign=1020
Further info on Bruce Canfield, a really good guy in the firearm collecting and history community.
https://www.brucecanfield.com/
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Great read.
Thanks for the post.
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Really interesting story. Thanks for posting it up, Phos! I've yet to own a Garand, and I'm probably too set in my ways to change now. But what a place they have in our history of small arms. They sure made a difference in both theaters of WW2.
I had always been interested in the M14 and the short, BM-59 series of carbines. But after reading this, I wonder if the same issues came up with those "Tanker" models?
firstchoice
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Great article... and I do tend to like shorties.
(https://i.ibb.co/23BRV3g/M1-and-BM59-shorties.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VY8bnY2)
(https://i.ibb.co/sVgjhmc/shorties.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mcRJmDd)
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Really interesting story. Thanks for posting it up, Phos! I've yet to own a Garand, and I'm probably too set in my ways to change now. But what a place they have in our history of small arms. They sure made a difference in both theaters of WW2.
I had always been interested in the M14 and the short, BM-59 series of carbines. But after reading this, I wonder if the same issues came up with those "Tanker" models?
firstchoice
The M14 barrel is only 2" shorter, at 22". The BM-59 is only 19.3", so that's in the same territory as the experimental Garand carbines. The BM-59 is just as heavy as the M1 Garand, so that mass should help with perceived recoil but I've never fired (or even handled) one, so I don't know first hand.
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Really interesting story. Thanks for posting it up, Phos! I've yet to own a Garand, and I'm probably too set in my ways to change now. But what a place they have in our history of small arms. They sure made a difference in both theaters of WW2.
I had always been interested in the M14 and the short, BM-59 series of carbines. But after reading this, I wonder if the same issues came up with those "Tanker" models?
firstchoice
The M14 barrel is only 2" shorter, at 22". The BM-59 is only 19.3", so that's in the same territory as the experimental Garand carbines. The BM-59 is just as heavy as the M1 Garand, so that mass should help with perceived recoil but I've never fired (or even handled) one, so I don't know first hand.
IIRC a BM-59 barrel is what LC used on his infamous bolt action sub-MOA custom SKS. Indeed a heavy barrel.
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LC used a Browning machine gun barrel, "a custom chambered Israeli 1919A4 barrel", heavy indeed
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/10/1moa-sks/
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LC used a Browning machine gun barrel, "a custom chambered Israeli 1919A4 barrel", heavy indeed
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/10/1moa-sks/
Oh yeah, that's right. I think he looked at using the BM-59 though. We chatted a lot when he built that thing so my brain gets foggy on the details, lol. Well, I've been sick and I'm over 60 so my brain gets foggy period, lol.
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LC used a Browning machine gun barrel, "a custom chambered Israeli 1919A4 barrel", heavy indeed
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/10/1moa-sks/
Oh yeah, that's right. I think he looked at using the BM-59 though. We chatted a lot when he built that thing so my brain gets foggy on the details, lol. Well, I've been sick and I'm over 60 so my brain gets foggy period, lol.
:)) Hey, I only thought it was a machine gun barrel, and had to look it up to get the specifics.
Hope you're on the mend thumb1
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LC used a Browning machine gun barrel, "a custom chambered Israeli 1919A4 barrel", heavy indeed
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/10/1moa-sks/
Oh yeah, that's right. I think he looked at using the BM-59 though. We chatted a lot when he built that thing so my brain gets foggy on the details, lol. Well, I've been sick and I'm over 60 so my brain gets foggy period, lol.
:)) Hey, I only thought it was a machine gun barrel, and had to look it up to get the specifics.
Hope you're on the mend thumb1
Yeah, I'm about 95%, but have a couple of lingering symptoms like the foggy brain and occasional cough that don't want to go away. Pretty COVID-like for testing negative, LOL. What did I just buy on Gunbroker?????? rofl rofl rofl
Haven't lost my sense of humor though. :)
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Great article... and I do tend to like shorties.
(https://i.ibb.co/23BRV3g/M1-and-BM59-shorties.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VY8bnY2)
(https://i.ibb.co/sVgjhmc/shorties.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mcRJmDd)
More please.