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Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« on: January 26, 2015, 05:12:53 PM »
If you guys have been following, these rifles used to be an enigma as they are obviously NOT a 1956 '1m" rifle clearly by all of their late features. RM and I brainstormed a bit on these rifles and then it hit us...  They are ALL 1.5.  Not 1.1 or 1.2 or 1.7 etc but ALL 1.5. This is a CLEAR indication that the first digit/digits are simply a year designator and this same rule can be applied to almost every standard Chinese sks produced. When you compare these 1.5 (15th year of production) features to the other known /26\ rifles, its obvious they are mirror images of the 13 and 14m. The 14th year was NOT the last year of production at Jianshe. That being said, all numerals after the year designation on the 15th year indicate sub 20k produced going off our current (small) list of observed rifles.  Compared to the production totals in the years just prior to 1970, the 20k 15th year current totals indicate just a few weeks worth of production. This is strong evidence as to why they dropped a digit from the total serial in this year. There was simply no need to waste time stamping digits on thousands of rifles that was not needed.

Here is mine.....   Un-fired with original box.    The missing link.












































































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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2015, 05:45:43 PM »
Sure is clean lookin. Reminds me of my late M21.

Not many of these, and a nice example. Doesn't get much better than brand new in box!  thumb1

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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2015, 06:05:51 PM »
Yet another rifle, taken to the wood pile :o  chuckles1

Cool, especially getting the box  thumb1  Interesting, no machined lightening cut out in the bolt.
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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2015, 06:10:33 PM »
1966: 11 mil /26\ short-lug, bottom-swivel, spike-bayo, large-font stock <---- First arrival of stamped trigger housings, two piece gas-tube, plus the deletion of the carrier and bay lug lightening cuts

One of the reasons why we know when this rifle was made.   thumb1
      
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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2015, 07:43:53 PM »
What a beauty L}{C, that is top shelf!

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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2015, 08:50:13 PM »
Is it just me or does that stock look REALLY red?  I love it!

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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2015, 09:15:42 PM »
Is it just me or does that stock look REALLY red?  I love it!

No it isn't just you Adam...it's as red as the stock on my wife's [0306], looks good!

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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2015, 09:20:20 PM »
Is it just me or does that stock look REALLY red?  I love it!

It's Chinese krylon paint  chuckles1
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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2015, 10:21:15 PM »
It's Chinese krylon paint  chuckles1


Now that's funny right there I don't care who ya are... rofl2

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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2015, 11:08:29 PM »
 rofl

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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2015, 07:04:22 PM »
That is a pristine carbine  thumb1

Sleuthed out another connection. Great work!

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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2022, 07:50:36 PM »
i just bought a rifle with 15 and 20k but not factory 26 it is 306 and has a long threaded barrel ,a milled trigger guard,two piece gas tube and no lighting cuts anywhere like bolt carrier,etc.its mixed with early and new type 56 symbols as well
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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2022, 06:31:41 PM »
Interesting

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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2022, 09:03:37 PM »
side mounted loop for the sling forgot that,,its all old except the gas tube/bolt  and cant really see bolt carrier,said its all matching;will see more when it arrives..i have a couple more like this too..im gonna check s/n on at least one..

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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2022, 10:19:42 PM »
There were many 15th year guns at factories other than Jianshe, /26\. A few 15th year /26\ guns came into the US in the last set of imports from Albania.

Yours will be interesting to get a look at in its own thread when you receive it  thumb1

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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2022, 02:28:14 AM »
yes thanks,probably a few more days

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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2022, 10:37:24 AM »
thumb1

/306\ also has year 13 and 14 year codes too.  Was one of the earlier factories to be producing the type 56.
      

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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2022, 01:15:01 PM »
wow,,thanks for that; i have a couple more with all older things;like short lug barrel and milled trigger but this one has a bottom swivel but a nine digit s/n no lighting cuts  and two piece gas tube again.the arsenal is hard to make out.i try later to match it with the chart you all have. the serial number has distant 2 and a distant 4 as per left to right .all matching but the 4 is never included anywhere.i doubt it is a 15 yr gun though

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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2022, 05:49:44 PM »
It's pretty hard to match an unknown arsenal using features such as side swivel on a stock.  The Chinese were all over the place with some things like side swivel vs bottom swivel, albeit other features had a clear progression across *all* arsenals.

Will be neat to see what you've gotten your hands onto!  Post her up when you get it in your hands and the gang will apply their expertise.  I fully believe that we'll get it figured out!  thumb1
      

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Re: Jianshe /26\ 1970 1.5m -- The "Missing Link"
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2022, 10:52:02 PM »
item    950583689 on GB is a 16 with all later parts a pinned barrel and the older one piece gas tube and side swivel..its like the opposite of the 15 i got.arsenal is 206 i think  $400 to start..yes i will when i get it ,should be soon,,yes it does seem all over the place
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