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1952 SA Garand
« on: October 22, 2024, 02:32:01 PM »
This was a pickup from Tiger imports. They had a sale on them a few months back and i looked through all until I found one listed as having a 1.0 gauged bore.
I put a new walnut stock on it. At some point I will send it off to be re-parkerized. Was $989 out the door I think.

The M1 carbine below is an Inland 1945 that Inland now makes new so its not a legit mil-surp.

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Re: 1952 SA Garand
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2024, 04:01:02 PM »
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Re: 1952 SA Garand
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2024, 04:09:21 PM »
I have wanted an M1 since I was a little girl. I procrastinated on joining CMP and getting one of those typical rack grades so I am happy to have one now as prices shoot through the roof, even on worn out rifles. Thanks!

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Re: 1952 SA Garand
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2024, 04:31:41 PM »
Saweeeet rifles.
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Re: 1952 SA Garand
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2024, 10:31:53 AM »
Agreed, very nice!

An M1 Carbine is one of those old milsurps that I've always wanted and just never acquired for whatever reason.  I've probably had 15 opportunities to nab one since I started collecting, and something always comes up! (no money, bore is trash, frakengun, cycling issues, too expensive, seller backs out...you name it)  cry1  Oh well, one day hopefully.
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Re: 1952 SA Garand
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2024, 04:12:12 PM »
Quote from: running-man on October 23, 2024, 10:31:53 AM
Agreed, very nice!

An M1 Carbine is one of those old milsurps that I've always wanted and just never acquired for whatever reason.  I've probably had 15 opportunities to nab one since I started collecting, and something always comes up! (no money, bore is trash, frakengun, cycling issues, too expensive, seller backs out...you name it)  cry1  Oh well, one day hopefully.

Totally can relate on M1 carbines. Many chances but passed on them for budget issues or just buying something else at the time. I do plan on getting a legit WW2 model if I can find a price that I am willing to pay. Gunbroker can still offer a good deal if you dig. Some can still be had for under $1000, you just have to dig.
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Re: 1952 SA Garand
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2024, 05:35:47 PM »
I found a couple M1 mags in a box of garage sale goodies that I kicked down to my buddy just so I wouldn't have a reason to buy a carbine  :-\ PAX
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Re: 1952 SA Garand
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2024, 06:39:31 PM »
I think the new M1 carbines from Inland get a bad rap which is not exactly deserved.There is so much BS on youtube. so many noobs and preachers that say things they think are from the word of god. Some just will not accept anything other than an original either and bad mouth anything else. It can be annoying.

Mine stove piped every 2-3 rds when I bought it and the bolt would hang up just before locking. When things like that happen its easy to question the design and just jump to conclusions but the fact is this was due to the it being brand new and the  parkerizing which is thick when they are produced. (I have also had brand new M57 Mags for the Tokarev which had a thick finish and they just needed to be inserted into the pistol dozens of times to be inserted more loosely) Even with originals it was said that they needed a break-in of 200rds or more. Of course by racking the slide on mine a few hundred times and shooting made it as reliable as any WW2 era carbine. I think the new ones are just fine so long as they are broken in. Original carbines had issues as well. That said, I do still want an original for collectors sake and will find one eventually. The new one was kind of a stop gap for me and one that I could also shoot more and not worry about wearing out an original. I think for that purpose they are a good alternative. I just wish 30 carbine would come down in price. I miss paying $49 for a Korean 72rd bandoleer just a few years ago. Ugggg!!!
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Re: 1952 SA Garand
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2024, 08:59:41 PM »
Everything everywhere has gotten too $pendy, PAX
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Re: 1952 SA Garand
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2024, 09:59:25 AM »
Ain't that the truth!

Our house insurer is dropping us because of a 'bad fireline score' 
All the new quotations I've gotten are 1.5 to 2.5 times the rate!!!  Buckle in boys & girls, it's only going to get crazier.  :P
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Re: 1952 SA Garand
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2024, 11:05:50 AM »
Quote from: running-man on October 24, 2024, 09:59:25 AM
Ain't that the truth!

Our house insurer is dropping us because of a 'bad fireline score' 
All the new quotations I've gotten are 1.5 to 2.5 times the rate!!!  Buckle in boys & girls, it's only going to get crazier.  :P

How can you have a bad fireline score when you're along a river in the desert? I'd sue them to get your insurance back at the previous amount.
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Re: 1952 SA Garand
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2024, 11:36:07 AM »
Triple A is using drones to look in folk's backyards for "clutter". They'll cancel you if they determine you're a hazard. I'm doomed. PAX
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Re: 1952 SA Garand
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2024, 02:04:19 PM »
Oh do not get me started on insurance. I recently got my VA home loan. The first insurance I had cancelled me for supposedly having  two very small dead trees in my front yard!!!!! I bought this home 1 1/2 years ago. I have 2 trees out front. Not big trees at all that just do not produce leaves for some reason but they are not dead. It was a chicken**** reason to cancel but I did get better insurance through USAA anyway by bundling. This economy sucks!!!! Hopefully in less than 2 weeks we can change this BS for good.

I also moved over here because post the phony pandemic/bio weapon mess.Homes shot up from $150k to $350-$400K where I lived!!!! And homes not worth even half that in a bad state are selling for 3 times what they are worth. This is nuts!

I dunno WTF happened but I feel like I died and woke up on the other side of a mirror a few years ago. Evil is now good, good is bad. Science has been tossed in the trash can and fantasy is real. Military says UFO's are real. WTF are we living in? It would not surprise me at all if Elvis landed in a UFO, had a sex change, and had a child with Hitler. This is how nuts the world is becoming. :)) I will stop there before I get in trouble. rofl2
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Re: 1952 SA Garand
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2024, 12:10:54 PM »
Quote from: Greatguns on October 24, 2024, 11:05:50 AM
How can you have a bad fireline score when you're along a river in the desert? I'd sue them to get your insurance back at the previous amount.

Those were my thoughts exactly GG!!  The big fires and subsequent flooding in Ruidoso down in southern NM this year spooked the company I have and they really tightened their coverage criteria.  The policy is up for renewal so it's all above board even if I may not like it.  I'm working with a different broker to find an alternative, it'll happen, just at what cost?  If the rumors I'm hearing about commodities ring true in the next quarter or two, the price increases of the last few years are going to be child's play compared to what we start to see. 

I am buying some of the not-so-popular-caliber ammo these days because when push comes to shove, trying to get 8mm Mauser or 6.5 Swedish for under a buck a round (or at all) is going to be pretty difficult.  Heck even finding .22lr under 5 cents a round will be extremely tough if copper prices rise 20% to 50% anytime soon.  The prices and selection we have now are the best we are going to see in a long long time...

Sorry about hijaking your thread WW.  But yes, as I often remind myself the world is truly nuts.  Nothing surprises me anymore.  All we can do is stick to our morals & ethics and keep on keeping on.    thumb1
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Re: 1952 SA Garand
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2024, 12:17:18 PM »
Quote from: running-man on October 25, 2024, 12:10:54 PM
Quote from: Greatguns on October 24, 2024, 11:05:50 AM
How can you have a bad fireline score when you're along a river in the desert? I'd sue them to get your insurance back at the previous amount.

Those were my thoughts exactly GG!!  The big fires and subsequent flooding in Ruidoso down in southern NM this year spooked the company I have and they really tightened their coverage criteria.  The policy is up for renewal so it's all above board even if I may not like it.  I'm working with a different broker to find an alternative, it'll happen, just at what cost?  If the rumors I'm hearing about commodities ring true in the next quarter or two, the price increases of the last few years are going to be child's play compared to what we start to see. 

I am buying some of the not-so-popular-caliber ammo these days because when push comes to shove, trying to get 8mm Mauser or 6.5 Swedish for under a buck a round (or at all) is going to be pretty difficult.  Heck even finding .22lr under 5 cents a round will be extremely tough if copper prices rise 20% to 50% anytime soon.  The prices and selection we have now are the best we are going to see in a long long time...

Sorry about hijaking your thread WW.  But yes, as I often remind myself the world is truly nuts.  Nothing surprises me anymore.  All we can do is stick to our morals & ethics and keep on keeping on.    thumb1

That 8mm from SG in cans is not a bad deal. Yes its turk and it takes some time to delink but its far better than the older 1939 stamped turk I had before. I have not experienced any ruptures or bolts locking up like before in the other stuff.

https://www.sgammo.com/product/surplus-ammo-sale/240-round-can-8mm-mauser-155-grain-fmj-turkish-surplus-ammo-linked-1919-ma
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Re: 1952 SA Garand
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2024, 12:40:20 PM »
I have a bunch of the Turkish.. but in general I prefer the Romanian or Greek 8mm. I also have several semiautos in 8mm, and that plays into it.  I can only imagine how bad Turkish ammo would beat to death my G43.

I've actually gone back to reloading over the last few years, makes the odd calibers somewhat easier to deal with, odd calibers like 7.5 French/Swiss, 8x56r, 22 Hornet, 222Rem, 6.5 Swede, 45/70 Govt.and so on... I can't believe 45/70 is as hard to aquire at times as it is, that's almost as much an American mainstay as 30/30 and .30-06.  One that really has dropped off the map is 7x57mm A golden oldie, new manufactured brass is almost non-existent.     All these new fangled boogie AR calibers are quickly driving the classics to extinction...
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Re: 1952 SA Garand
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2024, 12:54:21 PM »
Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 25, 2024, 12:40:20 PM
I can only imagine how bad Turkish ammo would beat to death my G43.



One of my dream rifles. :) Yeah, I would not shoot any of it in a semi. Not even a Hakim. I do not have any Greek 8mm but I do have a few bandoleers of Greek 30.06. Good stuff.
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Re: 1952 SA Garand
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2024, 01:54:43 PM »
I try and buy a few boxes of Privvi 7X57 for my Venny FN49 but the price has gone through the roof in the last couple years. I did luck out and get 750 rounds of the last 139 gr '70s era milsurp about 6 years ago. PAX
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Re: 1952 SA Garand
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2024, 02:07:44 PM »
Quote from: echo1 on October 25, 2024, 01:54:43 PM
I try and buy a few boxes of Privvi 7X57 for my Venny FN49 but the price has gone through the roof in the last couple years. I did luck out and get 750 rounds of the last 139 gr '70s era milsurp about 6 years ago. PAX

You got a lot of really nice stuff that I have had chances but procrastinated on and i fear that if I do not grab an FN49 soon (Tiger has some on occasion but their rep and grading sucks) I will miss out.

Some stuff on my must get soon list,

FN49
WW2 era M1 carbine
WW2 era Browing hi-power (preferably an FN, German issue) I LOVE Hi-powers, fit like a glove in hand.
Complete my Swiss rifle list. (I have a K11 but I need to replace the K31 I gave up and also get an 1889)
Replace the Nagant revolver with one close to what I had (with all the accessories)
Replace the Makarov I sold (Bulgarian)

Not C&R but want a Lemat revolver copy eventually ( my brother john carried a colt walker, open carry, on his hip and thought he was Josey Wales) Its in honor of him because he always wanted one. chuckles1

Rifles I would love but will probably never own,

G-43
G33/40 (Rare as hell and pricey)
SVT-40
Arisaka Type 2 Paratroop Rifle
Iver Johnson  M1941
Winchester 97 trench gun
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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2024, 03:59:34 PM »
Great list. Most of my sweetness I fell into. My Lux FN49 I traded off a Yugo 59/66, a commercial SKS and a home-grown SKS Paratrooper at the height of the plague panic, the seller was asking $2400 bucks. My Egyptian mixer FN was hiding in a closet at a yard sale missing the mag, $250, it was one of my last C&R cash and carries before Kali screwed the pooch on that. PAX
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