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SKS Carbines => Unaltered SKS Rifles => Russian SKS => Topic started by: Phosphorus32 on January 19, 2018, 03:36:36 PM

Title: 1957 Tula
Post by: Phosphorus32 on January 19, 2018, 03:36:36 PM
Nice light refurb I picked up a few weeks ago that just arrived this week. I was attracted to the blued bayonet, and I'm not disappointed. Has the blued crown, and blued bayonet generally taken as signs of refurbishment, otherwise I'd be tempted to call it as-issued. No refurb marks that I'm familiar with on the metal or stock. Anyhow, enjoy the pics!


(https://image.ibb.co/fiZaRw/left_1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cdNUmw)
(https://image.ibb.co/jffFRw/left_2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/e2uaRw)
(https://image.ibb.co/bw1pmw/left_3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/eHdrzG)
(https://image.ibb.co/bQdPKG/left_4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gJr0tb)
(https://image.ibb.co/cx7Umw/left_5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nbqh6w)
(https://image.ibb.co/eWk4KG/left_6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j1pmYb)

(https://image.ibb.co/kVK9mw/right_1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ifZyeG)
(https://image.ibb.co/n1fRYb/right_2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dcP9mw)
(https://image.ibb.co/iTZ3Db/right_3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/eNeEKG)
(https://image.ibb.co/nA15Rw/right_4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k6ZgzG)
(https://image.ibb.co/cndKmw/right_5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cAnC6w)

(https://image.ibb.co/euxC6w/SN_1_rec_star.jpg) (https://ibb.co/c6wiDb)
(https://image.ibb.co/m8biDb/SN_1_receiver.jpg) (https://ibb.co/n2bTeG)
(https://image.ibb.co/cjP3Db/SN_bolt_carrier.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dXQX6w)
(https://image.ibb.co/fZegzG/SN_bolt.jpg) (https://ibb.co/i0Fzmw)
(https://image.ibb.co/daUs6w/SN_buttplate.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kRAbYb)
(https://image.ibb.co/f8FX6w/SN_gas_tube_piston.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cvMTeG)
(https://image.ibb.co/iSQbYb/SN_mag.jpg) (https://ibb.co/e54s6w)
(https://image.ibb.co/bxZs6w/SN_rec_cover.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dmaMzG)
(https://image.ibb.co/nC1TeG/SN_trigger.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ihykRw)

(https://image.ibb.co/kA7emw/stock_bolt_marks_left.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hLMTeG)
(https://image.ibb.co/gFmGYb/stock_bolt_marks_right.jpg) (https://ibb.co/iRxemw)
(https://image.ibb.co/ez3kRw/stock_cartouche_right.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jjXODb)
(https://image.ibb.co/cqBGYb/stock_marking_bottom.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dVVoeG)
(https://image.ibb.co/cdqX6w/stock_marking_top_tang.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m9qoeG)

(https://image.ibb.co/mTVtDb/bayo_bolt_stakes.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hUJ26w)
(https://image.ibb.co/hdbBzG/crown_blued.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mjW0tb)
Title: Re: 1957 Tula
Post by: running-man on January 19, 2018, 03:43:59 PM
Jon that's a real beauty!  Heck of a nice '57 you got yourself there.  Does the stock show any rounded edges indicative of sanding or do you think it just got a reshellac?  Either way, very nice.  thumb1
Title: Re: 1957 Tula
Post by: Phosphorus32 on January 19, 2018, 04:21:58 PM
Jon that's a real beauty!  Heck of a nice '57 you got yourself there.  Does the stock show any rounded edges indicative of sanding or do you think it just got a reshellac?  Either way, very nice.  thumb1

Thanks Joe!  I'm pleased to have it :)

I don't know for sure. I've never been impressed with the sharpness of the edges of grasping grooves in the Russian birch (a "soft" hardwood) stocks, on SKSs or Mosins. They're never as sharp as the routed grasping grooves on walnut or beech Mauser stocks. I'd lean toward simple edge wear, considering the wear and chips in the rest of the shellac, but perhaps it was a very light sanding before a recoat. Here are a few more pics of those edges and a closeup of the SN on the stock I neglected to add to the original post.

(https://image.ibb.co/bHevtb/buttstock_edge.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dpETDb)
(https://image.ibb.co/cmyARw/foreend.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nf6KKG)
(https://image.ibb.co/k4eH6w/left_grasping_groove.jpg) (https://ibb.co/edr8Db)
(https://image.ibb.co/k7jTDb/SN_stock.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fUyoDb)
Title: Re: 1957 Tula
Post by: jstin2 on January 19, 2018, 04:30:36 PM
Your S/N looked familiar. Checked my 57 and it has the same lettering but 3308.  Mine is refurbished, painted and a laminate stock . Other than magazine it has matching S/Ns.

https://ibb.co/album/nvbofa
Title: Re: 1957 Tula
Post by: Justin Hell on January 19, 2018, 04:35:56 PM
Beautiful....I won't even give you a hard time about the doily the bolt was photographed upon.

Oops...I guess I just did a little.  :P

Title: Re: 1957 Tula
Post by: Phosphorus32 on January 19, 2018, 04:46:48 PM
Beautiful....I won't even give you a hard time about the doily the bolt was photographed upon.

Oops...I guess I just did a little.  :P

 rofl thanks! That's just the tablecloth on our kitchen table (yup, wife was not present).
Title: Re: 1957 Tula
Post by: carls sks on January 19, 2018, 05:15:37 PM
beauty, thanks for sharing.  thumb1
Title: Re: 1957 Tula
Post by: Greasemonkey on January 19, 2018, 06:27:47 PM
Ok.. I like it...... you enabler  thumb1 It almost, just about makes me wanna buy another Russian...The urdge was strong... almost... but not quite.. rofl

Now the hot lace bolt doily.... I might strongly consider :)
Title: Re: 1957 Tula
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on January 19, 2018, 11:31:31 PM
So....   how do we know blued bayos were not taken off of perhaps 1950s and isnt 'exactly' done at refurb, but merely used up at the time of refurb?    rofl

NICE GET!   
Title: Re: 1957 Tula
Post by: Justin Hell on January 19, 2018, 11:53:24 PM
So....   how do we know blued bayos were not taken off of perhaps 1950s and isnt 'exactly' done at refurb, but merely used up at the time of refurb?    rofl

NICE GET!   

The original bayonet was likely replaced by the blued one...the stake marks are off.  I wouldn't be surprised if all the blued bayonets were from a run and got randomly placed on guns at refurb. Yet another thing the Russians likely did that will prevent figuring out what happened and at what point did it happen.  I really would like to see a blued bayonet on a staked gun, just to see where the blued bayonets fell into the scheme of those first couple years of growing pains.  I love my blued one...it came from a 51 according to the PO. Looks downright proper on my good ol' 49/50 whicheveritis.
Title: Re: 1957 Tula
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on January 19, 2018, 11:55:24 PM
Thats basically what I'm sayin.   :)
Title: Re: 1957 Tula
Post by: Phosphorus32 on January 20, 2018, 07:00:39 PM
Your S/N looked familiar. Checked my 57 and it has the same lettering but 3308. I sent Running-Man pictures of my carbines for his registry last month, so he has pictures of it. Mine is refurbished, painted and a laminate stock . Other than magazine it has matching S/Ns.

Cool, and you probably paid considerably less than $498  :))
Title: Re: 1957 Tula
Post by: Phosphorus32 on January 20, 2018, 07:01:52 PM
Ok.. I like it...... you enabler  thumb1 It almost, just about makes me wanna buy another Russian...The urdge was strong... almost... but not quite.. rofl

Now the hot lace bolt doily.... I might strongly consider :)

Hey, you NEED a lace bolt doily...I mean another Russian SKS  :-[  rofl
Title: Re: 1957 Tula
Post by: Phosphorus32 on January 20, 2018, 07:07:06 PM
So....   how do we know blued bayos were not taken off of perhaps 1950s and isnt 'exactly' done at refurb, but merely used up at the time of refurb?    rofl

NICE GET!   

Thanks LC!  thumb1

The blued bayonets were made in a limited run at the temporarily revived Sestroryetsk Arsenal in May 1957 and added to SKSs distributed to Spetsnaz, so they wouldn't have to blacken the blade over a diesel fire before heading out on night ops. Very rare!  Adds a $500 premium to any SKS-45  thumb1
Title: Re: 1957 Tula
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on January 20, 2018, 07:44:45 PM
Makes perfect sense....   your such a legend!    8)
Title: Re: 1957 Tula
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on January 20, 2018, 08:20:09 PM
What month did they start applying white paint into the serials to highlight them?
Title: Re: 1957 Tula
Post by: Phosphorus32 on January 20, 2018, 08:42:52 PM
Makes perfect sense....   your such a legend!    8)

 dance2 chuckles1
Title: Re: 1957 Tula
Post by: Greasemonkey on January 20, 2018, 08:48:07 PM
Ok.. I like it...... you enabler  thumb1 It almost, just about makes me wanna buy another Russian...The urdge was strong... almost... but not quite.. rofl

Now the hot lace bolt doily.... I might strongly consider :)

Hey, you NEED a lace bolt doily...I mean another Russian SKS  :-[  rofl

3 is a nice round number, that's all I need of them things.... But... I wouldn't complain about scoring one of them thar uber elite super secret  Spetsnaz bayonet equipped Russian things from May of '57, that would be kinda cool... Like almost as cool as snatching an uber legends hot bolt lacey doily thingy off his wifeys dining room table..

Man....don't lick it, that white paint might be cyanide laced in case of capture, they can lick it and die with honor before the tourture and waterboarding start. thumb1