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Depending on what you traded, you didn't do badly I think. No lesson to learn here at all!  It's a functional type 56 (well once you get a magazine), looks solid, likely has a decent to great bore, probably worth $350 to $400 once you get a magazine for it in today's market, and will give you countless hours and many 1000's of rounds of range pleasure!  It's a perfect project gun should you want to tinker with it (maybe look at putting in a G9 magazine adapter into it since it already lacks a magazine), and you're right, you can always salvage the parts for another project.  The stock is not all that bad, there have been many in *far* worse condition!  Here's my last SKS buy from Classic in 2019:





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General Discussion / Re: Need help identifying the Ugly Duckling
« Last post by Papahound on Today at 09:47:07 AM »

Thanks for the helpful info guys  thumb1

I really donít have much in this dog fight  , I can always salvage the parts for future projects and put the stock in my compost pile for the worms  :(

Just a impulse buy - lesson learned : )
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Commercial Rimfire / Spring Cleaning .22
« Last post by Papahound on Today at 12:12:09 AM »
Decided to pull out a few things to wipe down and clean and came across these old German .22ís

Donít shoot them often but I always liked the look of these old Mausers .

Really nice finish and very well made !







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American Curios & Relics / Re: Irwin Pedersen M1 Carbine
« Last post by 1mlt on March 30, 2023, 04:32:21 PM »
"Guns", any gun is a personal thing. I saw an M1 carbine when I was in my early 20's. Fell in love. Finally purchased one in my 60's. Took her to the range. Immediately, I felt that round was anemic and sold it. To each his own I guess. I'm not sure I can name "a favorite" gun. There are many "favs" in the safe. The one that hovers around number 1 is the M96 Swedish Mauser. Piece of art, deadly past 500 yards in the right hands. I am also fond of my AR10. There's just something about the .308 round that makes it shine. JMHO opinion and we all know about that, opinions an AH's, everyone has one.

Very true.  Like you, I love the M/96 and M/38 Swedes. Have a bunch of semiautomatic 7.62x51mm rifles but not the AR-10. It's a great round.  :)



The M1 Carbine is interesting to me from a collecting (historical) perspective. It is an anemic round for a rifle, which makes it a great shooter for my recoil sensitive family members, wife and daughter.

The US Army Ordnance competition that led to the M1 Carbine had the purpose of replacing the M1911 for non-front line troops like artillery crews, heavy weapons squad members (machine guns, mortars), truck drivers, etc. to provide them a firearm with increased combat effectiveness relative to a pistol that experience indicated caused very few casualties. A cartridge that has the ballistic energy of a light .44 magnum but shoots flatter and farther was a good (not perfect) intermediate round for the role. The short and lightweight aspect of the carbine was also very intentional. The original requirement was no more than 5 lbs and Winchester achieved that with their design.
IF I had only one choice for a rifle it would be the M96. Defense at distance, food, and death, etc. A kid could shoot it accurately. My opinion is it is better than the German K98's.
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General Discussion / Re: Need help identifying the Ugly Duckling
« Last post by running-man on March 30, 2023, 03:39:41 PM »
As Boris said, this is a Chinese type 56 made in 1969.  The PW Arms import stamp is relatively new, only appearing on type 56s within the past 3 years or so.  This is a newer Sino-Banian import from Albania and they are still being sold at retail right now.

It should have come in with a magazine, but seeing as how the BC and TG are both mismatching, it's hard to say whether it matched or not.  The stock is not original to the gun, it lacks the cutout for the inverted receiver cover takedown lever that all year 12-14 arsenal /26\ type 56s have.  The stock doesn't look like beech to me though, so it may be a Chinese stock off another carbine or even from a replacement Chinese blank.

Find a magazine, shoot and enjoy.  thumb1
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General Discussion / Re: Need help identifying the Ugly Duckling
« Last post by Boris Badinov on March 30, 2023, 03:32:20 PM »
The PW Arms imports are recent. Your new rifle is from the Albanian stockpiles. 

It's a 14th year carbine with some mis-mactched replacement parts.  A box magazine shouldn't be too hard to find.

Should be a good shooter. The stocks on the Alabanian imports are commonly beat up, but the overall functioning of the rifles is generally very high.


Nice save.
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General Discussion / Need help identifying the Ugly Duckling
« Last post by Papahound on March 30, 2023, 02:30:26 PM »

Picked this up in a trade today .. felt kinda sorry for it so I brought it home  ???
Definitely not a prom queen  >:(

Looks like arsenal /26\

S/N 14042631

Bolt and carrier 32169

Trigger guard 51531

Receiver cover 42631

Stock appears to be military ??

Missing box mag  :(

Imported by PW Arms Redmond Wa.

Probably nailed together on the Ho Chi Minh trail  :o















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American Curios & Relics / Re: Spring Cleaning
« Last post by Papahound on March 30, 2023, 02:15:26 PM »
Nice M1A1! Those are definitely valuable. Do you have pictures of the special stamps etc. I donít get to see many real ones and itís always good to have pictures to study.

I took a shot at a heavily rearsenaled one a few weeks ago but wasnít interested in going to $3K in order to win. That slot will remain open in my collection.

The stock and hand guard are both IO .. Overton

The crossed canon cartouche is so heavily worn itís hard to photograph

Larry Ruthís book gives great info on the stocks , lots of fake stuff on the market

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American Curios & Relics / Re: Saginaw S.G. M1 Carbine
« Last post by Phosphorus32 on March 30, 2023, 11:15:52 AM »
Thanks!

Iíve gone back and forth on this one. The more I study the parts finish, the more I lean back towards a ďcorrectedĒ version. The barrel finish wear looks like it probably had a barrel band with the bayonet lug mounted at one point.

Regardless, I think the parts are legitimate and itís a good looking carbine.
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American Curios & Relics / Re: Spring Cleaning
« Last post by Phosphorus32 on March 30, 2023, 11:10:47 AM »
Nice M1A1! Those are definitely valuable. Do you have pictures of the special stamps etc. I donít get to see many real ones and itís always good to have pictures to study.

I took a shot at a heavily rearsenaled one a few weeks ago but wasnít interested in going to $3K in order to win. That slot will remain open in my collection.
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