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"Tanker" M1 Garands
« on: October 27, 2020, 12:53:26 PM »
A good article on the actual M1 Garand carbine testing by the living authority on American WW1 and WW2 military small arms.

Short version: there are only a couple authentic test examples and they're in museums.

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2020/10/26/tanker-garands-the-real-story?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=insider&utm_campaign=1020



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Re: "Tanker" M1 Garands
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2020, 04:27:10 AM »
Great read.

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Re: "Tanker" M1 Garands
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2020, 05:05:09 AM »
Really interesting story. Thanks for posting it up, Phos! I've yet to own a Garand, and I'm probably too set in my ways to change now. But what a place they have in our history of small arms. They sure made a difference in both theaters of WW2.

I had always been interested in the M14 and the short, BM-59 series of carbines. But after reading this, I wonder if the same issues came up with those "Tanker" models?

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Re: "Tanker" M1 Garands
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2020, 08:54:31 AM »
Great article... and I do tend to like shorties.




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Re: "Tanker" M1 Garands
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2020, 11:41:13 AM »
Really interesting story. Thanks for posting it up, Phos! I've yet to own a Garand, and I'm probably too set in my ways to change now. But what a place they have in our history of small arms. They sure made a difference in both theaters of WW2.

I had always been interested in the M14 and the short, BM-59 series of carbines. But after reading this, I wonder if the same issues came up with those "Tanker" models?

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The M14 barrel is only 2" shorter, at 22". The BM-59 is only 19.3", so that's in the same territory as the experimental Garand carbines. The BM-59 is just as heavy as the M1 Garand, so that mass should help with perceived recoil but I've never fired (or even handled) one, so I don't know first hand.

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Re: "Tanker" M1 Garands
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2020, 11:57:09 AM »
Really interesting story. Thanks for posting it up, Phos! I've yet to own a Garand, and I'm probably too set in my ways to change now. But what a place they have in our history of small arms. They sure made a difference in both theaters of WW2.

I had always been interested in the M14 and the short, BM-59 series of carbines. But after reading this, I wonder if the same issues came up with those "Tanker" models?

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The M14 barrel is only 2" shorter, at 22". The BM-59 is only 19.3", so that's in the same territory as the experimental Garand carbines. The BM-59 is just as heavy as the M1 Garand, so that mass should help with perceived recoil but I've never fired (or even handled) one, so I don't know first hand.

IIRC a BM-59 barrel is what LC used on his infamous bolt action sub-MOA custom SKS. Indeed a heavy barrel.
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Re: "Tanker" M1 Garands
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2020, 12:05:13 PM »
LC used a Browning machine gun barrel, "a custom chambered Israeli 1919A4 barrel", heavy indeed

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/10/1moa-sks/

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Re: "Tanker" M1 Garands
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2020, 12:42:41 PM »
LC used a Browning machine gun barrel, "a custom chambered Israeli 1919A4 barrel", heavy indeed

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/10/1moa-sks/

Oh yeah, that's right. I think he looked at using the BM-59 though. We chatted a lot when he built that thing so my brain gets foggy on the details, lol. Well, I've been sick and I'm over 60 so my brain gets foggy period, lol.
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Re: "Tanker" M1 Garands
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2020, 01:20:53 PM »
LC used a Browning machine gun barrel, "a custom chambered Israeli 1919A4 barrel", heavy indeed

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/10/1moa-sks/

Oh yeah, that's right. I think he looked at using the BM-59 though. We chatted a lot when he built that thing so my brain gets foggy on the details, lol. Well, I've been sick and I'm over 60 so my brain gets foggy period, lol.

:)) Hey, I only thought it was a machine gun barrel, and had to look it up to get the specifics.

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Re: "Tanker" M1 Garands
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2020, 01:38:20 PM »
LC used a Browning machine gun barrel, "a custom chambered Israeli 1919A4 barrel", heavy indeed

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/10/1moa-sks/

Oh yeah, that's right. I think he looked at using the BM-59 though. We chatted a lot when he built that thing so my brain gets foggy on the details, lol. Well, I've been sick and I'm over 60 so my brain gets foggy period, lol.

:)) Hey, I only thought it was a machine gun barrel, and had to look it up to get the specifics.

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Re: "Tanker" M1 Garands
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2020, 04:28:03 PM »
Great article... and I do tend to like shorties.




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