GB listings for November, 2015 - Yugoslavian

[running-man]

A slightly down month with only 30 Yugos this time around.  2015 is certainly the year of the Yugo though!  $255.00 low, $880.00 high, $413.45 avg. 

Please feel free to post up any feedback (good or bad) to any one these entries.

If you have an objection or observation to add to anything I've listed, by all means call it out.  Let's all look at it long and hard (I only look at each listing for a minute or two at most, I miss things all the time and as I continually try to remind people: we simply don't have all the answers, no matter how good we'd like to think we are) and maybe everyone can learn a thing or two! 

-RM


Item Link   Description   # Bids   Final Price   Model   Block Letter   Arsenal Condtion   Current Condition   RM's Notes513683470   Zastava M59/66A1 SKS; 7.62x39; Mosin Scope Mt; C&R   11   $295.00    M59/66   F   Uncertain   Good   I think Pat Adams snatched this one up.  Pretty snazzy field expedient mount.517528285   Yugo Model 59/66 SKS 7.62/39 Excellent condition! (New old stock, Unfired)   13   $375.00    M59/66   O   Bubba   Good   I thought this was a great gun until I got to the last few photos.  Poor GL.518225751   SKS Yugo 59-66 Guards Regiment rifle Unissued New   1   $800.00    M59/66 Honor Guard   H   All-Matching   Excellent   Another nice honor guard this month at a very close to retail price.518367567   Yugoslavian M59/66 SKS Rifle   3   $270.00    M59/66   Uncertain   Uncertain   Fair   This gun reminds me of ugly betty.518789253   YUGO M59/66 SKS UNFIRED IN BOX M59 66 MATCHING   12   $355.00    M59/66   F   Force-Matched   Good   Nice looking Cherry's gun here.520240004   SKS (Yugo) semi-auto rifle 7.62 x 39 + bayonet   8   $355.00    M59   C   Force-Matched   Fair   Decent enough M59.  Condition really hurt this price on this one I think.520240783   Yugo 59/66 SKS Exc. Cond. Pristine Bore w/acc.   29   $660.00    M59/66   U   Non-Matching   Good   Two bidders who either had too much to drink or an inferiority complex.  How does a mixmaster M59/66A1 go north of 6 Benjamins?!520323118   YUGO M59/66 SKS   2   $300.00    M59/66   Uncertain   Bubba   Fair   Not a fan of the tack weld of the compensator/break in place of the GL on this one.  How many auction do you think are legit where they say "Selling this for XXX, who recently lost YYY".  Think that's just a selling point?  Sometimes I do. 520412402   Yugo SKS 7.62x39 M59/66   7   $350.00    M59/66   D   All-Matching   Good   True M59/66 here w/o the night sights.  Someone made a good buy!520419944   YUGO MODEL 59/66 SKS 7.62x39mm YUGO MODEL 59/66 SKS 7.62x39mm   5   $320.00    M59/66   Uncertain   Uncertain   Uncertain   Horsetrash.520427577   Yugo M59/66 SKS 7.62x39, Good to VG condition   2   $315.00    M59/66   H   All-Matching   Fair   520448643   Yugo 59/66 SKS rifle - Bore looks UNFIRED   2   $399.99    M59/66   F   Force-Matched   Good   520949788   Yugo SKS Slovenian Honor Guard Parade Rifle M59/66   2   $785.00    M59/66 Honor Guard   B (late)   All-Matching   Excellent   Hot damn that's a beautiful gun.  Selling price was darn near less than what they went for at retail.  Amazing!!!!522131172   Yugo SKS M-59/66 7.62x39 New w/ Cosmoline   10   $315.00    M59/66   M   Bubba   Good   522260373   Yugo 59/66 SKS #s Matching Pristine Condition   8   $549.00    M59/66   N   Force-Matched   Good   522397001   Yugoslavian SKS Yugo SKS 7.62x39 OD green Tapco   23   $345.00    M59/66   Uncertain   Bubba   Good   Really, 23 bids on this one?!522584036   Yugo Zastava 59 SKS 7.62x39 Matching Serial #'s   6   $275.00    M59   C   Bubba   Fair   Always sad to see an M59 meet an end like this.522941626   Yugo 59/66A1 SKS, No Reserve, Matching Numbers   3   $380.00    M59/66   H   Force-Matched   Good   I have this gun in my records already.  Nice grain on the handguard.523102781   Yugo m59/61 sks   1   $350.00    M59/66   E   All-Matching   Good   A steal at this price.523110906   Yugoslavian SKS Unissued Rearsenal 7.62x39 Yugo   1   $300.00    M59/66   None   Non-Matching   Good   Hey SKShiSM, a little help on this one?  I know you've mentioned stuff about the XXXXXXA imports, but I can't seem to find it.  What's the story behind these ones?523204345   Yugo SKS 59/66 7.62x39 Bayonet Grenade Sight LNIB   1   $475.00    M59/66   O   All-Matching   Good   523375240   Yugo Ceremonial Guard SKS 59/66 Unissued as New   8   $880.00    M59/66 Honor Guard   A (late)   All-Matching   Excellent   Beautiful gun, though something odd happened with the top of that bolt carrier and the chrome.  $100 above retail.523537627   Yugo M59/66 SKS 7.62x39 M 59/66 7.62   3   $344.00    M59/66   Uncertain   Uncertain   Good   524733872   Yugo 59/66 SKS EXCELLENT Matching #'s No Reserve   22   $346.00    M59/66   E   All-Matching   Good   525157686   Yugo SKS with extras.   2   $316.50    M59/66   Uncertain   Uncertain   Good   This one has one of the nice tight grained non-elm stocks.  Too bad the photos are horsetrash, probably a very nice gun.525329933   C.A.I. M59 Yugo SKS 7.62x39mm $25 Shipping   12   $255.00    M59/66   M   All-Matching   Fair   Another gun that reminds me of Ugly Betty.  I really like this one actually!  Awesome steal of a price too.525629314   SKS YUGO M59/66A1 MINTY, MINTY BELIEVED UNFIRED   9   $509.00    M59/66   U   All-Matching   Excellent   I can see how this one topped 5 Benjamins.526206160   Yugo SKS 7.62x39   2   $275.00    M59/66   Uncertain   Uncertain   Uncertain   Yet another horsetrash auction.526265256   Yugo 59/66 SKS #s Match 1977 Very Nice   14   $489.00    M59/66   N   All-Matching   Good   Decent enough looking gun.  Great auction photos.526978908   Yugo SKS 7.62x39 Excellent Condition   1   $420.00    M59/66   I   All-Matching   Good   Nice unusual KBI import stamp on this one.

[Phosphorus32]

Great report as usual! 

523375240   Yugo Ceremonial Guard SKS 59/66 Unissued as New   8   $880.00    M59/66 Honor Guard   A (late)   All-Matching   Excellent   Beautiful gun, though something odd happened with the top of that bolt carrier and the chrome.  $200 above retail.

[running-man]

Wow, were they really only $680?  Man I might *really* get to regret not buying one if the price I keep thinking they were keeps going up and the price they really were stays the same! 

[Phosphorus32]

  They were $695 shipped.

[Loose}{Cannon]

Yeah...  Can't tell what is up with that ones carrier where the serial is.  Bizaro

[running-man]

Interesting that the honor guards are starting to sell more and more on the secondary market though.  3 of them this month! 

[Loose}{Cannon]

Interesting that the honor guards are starting to sell more and more on the secondary market though.  3 of them this month! 

Flippers....  No intention with collecting

[running-man]

Some of them made $200 in a month, others struggled to break even.  I think the market hasn't had a good chance to really determine a price on these. Give it a year and the real trend will be evident.

[Loose}{Cannon]

Some of them made $200 in a month, others struggled to break even.  I think the market hasn't had a good chance to really determine a price on these. Give it a year and the real trend will be evident.

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Im sure...   Leading up to xmas is a bad time to determine a baseline on any given rifles value.

[Phosphorus32]

Some of them made $200 in a month, others struggled to break even.  I think the market hasn't had a good chance to really determine a price on these. Give it a year and the real trend will be evident.

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Im sure...   Leading up to xmas is a bad time to determine a baseline on any given rifles value.

+1

Original retail delivered to the buyer's door (if C&R) less than three months ago was $695, so an average of $127 profit, or 18% increase in value in a quarter-year. Not too bad   

+$105 profit
518225751   SKS Yugo 59-66 Guards Regiment rifle Unissued New   1   $800.00    M59/66 Honor Guard   H   All-Matching   Excellent   Another nice honor guard this month at a very close to retail price.

+$90 profit
520949788   Yugo SKS Slovenian Honor Guard Parade Rifle M59/66   2   $785.00    M59/66 Honor Guard   B (late)   All-Matching   Excellent   Hot damn that's a beautiful gun.  Selling price was darn near less than what they went for at retail.  Amazing!!!!

+$185 profit
523375240   Yugo Ceremonial Guard SKS 59/66 Unissued as New   8   $880.00    M59/66 Honor Guard   A (late)   All-Matching   Excellent   Beautiful gun, though something odd happened with the top of that bolt carrier and the chrome.  $100 above retail.

[SKhiSm 59-66A1]

This one http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=523110906

With an "A" suffix I have to think it's an Interordnance import possibly connected to those rifles that get referred to as the Wild Ones sometimes. For those who might not have heard the story, it's said that I/O tried to get away with importing a batch of Yugo SKS that were of new manufacture and bearing their own unique serial block suffixed with "A." There were supposed to have been about 500 rifles in the batch with about half sold before the relevant government agency came in and stopped further sales, later ordering that the remainder be cut up/parted out, but declining to track down the ones already sold. They weren't mil-surp so didn't qualify as C & R.

So those got dubbed The Wild Ones the bulk of which have serial #'s in a block from 100xxA - 105xxA, and there's a few odd ones with 6 digit #'s suffixed with "A". This is likely one of those oddballs. I used to be pretty keen on these, not seeing until it was pointed out to me that they're actually a little rough with tooling marks and unfinished stock fitting that are really not typical of Zastava workmanship. Like they were a hurry up job. I have tried several times to verify the story incuding e-mailing Oli (?) Weigand (?) head of I/O, never could verify it although I did discover they were apparently getting a great deal of attention from the government around that time for a host of reasons, and somebody had to do a stretch in jail. I think this all happened around 2001 but not sure.

I'd like to have a chance to look a few of them over sometime, I once saw a chamber pic of one and it really looked like the extractor recess was cut with a Dremel after the barrel was seated, and another with an arsenal stock repair of an otherwise new stock. I noticed this one has the serial EP'd right next to where it's also stamped, I haven't seen that before and don't know what to make of it. I think the buyer did ok, they may be a little goofy but 300$ isn't a lot of money.

Edit - "a little goofy" - it was the rifles I was speaking of not the buyer 

[running-man]

Hey Danny,

I think you're right about this one being an IO import:




What do you make of the mismatched trigger group on that gun?  Think that was installed before import, or was it done here stateside? (I can't think of a reason why someone would do that unless it got worked on and was silky smooth)  That 267805 would equate to an H prefix; the receiver # 247547 would be an H prefix as well.    Interesting. 

[SKhiSm 59-66A1]

I'd bet it was imported with that trigger guard. The batch of rifles taken as a whole seem like they show signs that they were done as a hurry-up deal. I wouldn't exclude the possibility that they were drawing from used parts bins in building some of them.

In Withergyld's compiled data, right after the I/O's with the unique serial set, he shows a couple of these "loose" ones with 6 digit military numbers and I think he placed those where he did because they were suffixed with an "A". Besides those there is an "N" and an "E" that are I/O and only serial stamped on the receiver and stock, with the rest un-numbered, like the later ones. It really has the smack to it that they were rushing through new builds and had to complete the order with heavily refurbed rifles that apparently had new stocks along with whatever else. It sure doesn't seem much like Zastavas usual way of doing things.

[firstchoice]

518789253   YUGO M59/66 SKS UNFIRED IN BOX M59 66 MATCHING   12   $355.00    M59/66   F   Force-Matched   Good   Nice looking Cherry's gun here.

  Is the font on the stock's SN wrong or am I missing something obvious? The SN matches the rest of the rifle, but it's listed as force matched. I'm not up to date on the Yugo specifics. Any opinions on this?

firstchoice

[Loose}{Cannon]

Looks normal to me.

[running-man]

Hi FC! 

The only reason I listed it as force matched was because of the restamp on the stock.  You can just make out a previous number under the 155767 in photo 10 of the auction. It's not super clear, but I *think* I see a 3 and a 0 underneath.

Add that to the final photo of the box with the 'All matching except stock' and I thought it best to pull that one down a notch.

I'm certainly open to any alternatives though. Yugos are certainly not my strongpoint!   

[firstchoice]

I think I see what you're talking about in pic #10. A bit of a gap between the 7 and the 6 too. The one pic is hard to judge by, but I suppose they wouldn't sabotage their own rifle by putting that on the box if it wasn't so. Good call RM.

firstchoice