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SKS Carbines => Unaltered SKS Rifles => Chinese SKS (Commercial) => Topic started by: XXXSKS on June 18, 2016, 04:05:03 PM
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These are pics of the Navy Arms Precision Degree rifle. According to legend they were used to test the accuracy of Chinese ammo and were compared to National Match Garand's (see ads). The following pics were posted by jimmyc on gunboards and other forums
(http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp320/javlin34x/WebsiteChineseSKS/Prescision%20Degree%20rifle/DSC08395-1_zpsadyj5nji.jpg)
(http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp320/javlin34x/WebsiteChineseSKS/Prescision%20Degree%20rifle/DSC08397_zpsampnq6xj.jpg)
Each rifle has special markings
(http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp320/javlin34x/WebsiteChineseSKS/Prescision%20Degree%20rifle/a2_zpsiciiw2gy.png)
The following is the paper work that came with each rifle.
(http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp320/javlin34x/WebsiteChineseSKS/Prescision%20Degree%20rifle/28006366cert1_zpsj3nqoihi.jpg)
These rifles were advertised in Shotgun News. The ads go from 11-1-1989
(http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp320/javlin34x/WebsiteChineseSKS/Prescision%20Degree%20rifle/123_zpsfwxqsz4s.jpg)
to 3-10-1990
(http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp320/javlin34x/WebsiteChineseSKS/Prescision%20Degree%20rifle/123%20002_zps27mdvdyn.jpg)
Looks like they sold out before the catalog deadline as they were never in any of the catalogs
Looking for pics of other Precision Degree Rifles.
8)...................................Joe
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This is my personal holy grail for finding one of these. It blows my mind that there is only one known to exist.
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Im sure they out there.... Just have to carefully look at the markings on bubba guns because thats likely what happened to them.
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Im sure they out there.... Just have to carefully look at the markings on bubba guns because thats likely what happened to them.
I do. I have checked every SKS on GB and Armslist for almost the past year looking for those markings.
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My apologies if I missed it but do we know what the Chinese did during the manufacturing process to accurize these carbines?
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No... Could have been a marketing ploy for all we know. "Accuracy devices" for testing ammo usually do not look like complete weapon yet alon have a complete stock. ???
How did they bolt it down? How can you test the accuracy of ammo with so many variables not eliminated?
(https://www.nps.gov/spar/learn/historyculture/images/case_71_Mann_barrel.jpg)
(http://www.rockislandauction.com/photos/53/p_standard/BHG166-Z-F2-L.jpg)
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All I'm saying is.... If you wanna "test the accuracy of each new batch of ammo", you dont use 400 regular rifles. I'm not trying to poopoo on this one... I just find it HIGHLY doubtful.
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I chuckled when I read this! It's a fascinating concept and a very nice looking carbine displayed here. Regardless of whether these are efficient at testing or nor it should have considerable collector's interest and value because of the designation.
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I think there is something else about this gun that is pretty significant too.... it's got a 28 serial year identifier, which I believe is the highest number on any gun before they started using the actual year in the serial.
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We have '29's recorded from 416
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We have '29's recorded from 416
Ah...well I tried, lol.
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But then again.... I hear the new word for data is 'lies'. rofl
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Joe, is this one on your list? If so, what is it's name?
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20SKS-POLY%20USA%20Import-Special%20Scope%20Mount/ChineseSKS-PolyUSAImport-SpecialScopeMount-3-Copy_zpse3917f04.jpg)
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(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20SKS-POLY%20USA%20Import-Special%20Scope%20Mount/ChineseSKS-PolyUSAImport-SpecialScopeMount-15_zpscb11188a.jpg)
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20SKS-POLY%20USA%20Import-Special%20Scope%20Mount/ChineseSKS-PolyUSAImport-SpecialScopeMount-13_zps3daf858f.jpg)
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20SKS-POLY%20USA%20Import-Special%20Scope%20Mount/ChineseSKS-PolyUSAImport-SpecialScopeMount-14_zpsa70d2165.jpg)
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20SKS-POLY%20USA%20Import-Special%20Scope%20Mount/ChineseSKS-PolyUSAImport-SpecialScopeMount-11_zps4039e114.jpg)
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20SKS-POLY%20USA%20Import-Special%20Scope%20Mount/ChineseSKS-PolyUSAImport-SpecialScopeMount-10_zps101522bc.jpg)
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20SKS-POLY%20USA%20Import-Special%20Scope%20Mount/ChineseSKS-PolyUSAImport-SpecialScopeMount-9_zps02b9aea2.jpg)
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20SKS-POLY%20USA%20Import-Special%20Scope%20Mount/ChineseSKS-PolyUSAImport-SpecialScopeMount-8_zpsa539fd1f.jpg)
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20SKS-POLY%20USA%20Import-Special%20Scope%20Mount/ChineseSKS-PolyUSAImport-SpecialScopeMount-7_zps010179ef.jpg)
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20SKS-POLY%20USA%20Import-Special%20Scope%20Mount/ChineseSKS-PolyUSAImport-SpecialScopeMount-6_zpsd55ba2b1.jpg)
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20SKS-POLY%20USA%20Import-Special%20Scope%20Mount/ChineseSKS-PolyUSAImport-SpecialScopeMount-5_zpse58f4291.jpg)
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20SKS-POLY%20USA%20Import-Special%20Scope%20Mount/ChineseSKS-PolyUSAImport-SpecialScopeMount-12_zps9ea859b6.jpg)
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20SKS-POLY%20USA%20Import-Special%20Scope%20Mount/ChineseSKS-PolyUSAImport-SpecialScopeMount-4_zps8710f7da.jpg)
These were pics that I pulled off of a GunBroker auction many years ago. I copied them because I had never seen one like it before, or since. The /\ stamp looks like it might be /416\, but the pics aren't clear enough to make that call. It's a Poly USA import and Serial Number 1807141 with a J after the SN. All shown SN's match.
Pinned barrel, milled trigger group, sight leaf with a "3".
The scope mounting system looks fairly thought out, but I don't know how effective it was.
I wish I knew more about it or had better pics to show. Food for thought, anyway.
firstchoice
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Nuttin special about that one first. It does have a perty slick receiver cover scope mount. That threaded assembly pulls on the latch pin and drives the cover forward locking it in place. That mount has the potential to rezero after removal.
8)..................Joe
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Fascinating set up, I've never seen one like that. I have a scope like that.
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Same thought here, Danny. Although the only difference in the rifle appears to be for the scope mounting, it definitely takes it to a different level. The receiver is machined to accept the scope mount/receiver cover. And this particular one piece design of the scope mount/receiver cover is something I've never seen before or since. I would have liked to have one in my collection, just for these differences. Who knows, it may have been a fairly good system for re-zeroing?
The phosphate-looking finish on the Bolt Carrier lends a bit more credence to the theory that it may be a /416\ manufactured carbine.
firstchoice
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Those scopes are only a 4X but that is ample and within the capabilities of the carbine. I have ours set at 200 yards and it does very well at that distance. Actually it comes back very close to zero when I remove it to clean the bolt/carrier then put it back on.
That's an odd looking set up and it looks well thought out. I would like to spend a morning shooting that one! Thanks for posting this one.
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Reading those add's is one step below the Canadians posting their Russians. It just wrong ! :)
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Reading those add's is one step below the Canadians posting their Russians. It just wrong ! :)
+1! Just reading through the latest issue of Firearms News, (formerly Shotgun News), there's little to nothing in comparison between the two eras. Now, lots of AR's, some US-made AK clones, and one lone ad from J&G for the Chi-Banian SKS. Those definitely were the "good ole days".
firstchoice
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This is my personal holy grail for finding one of these. It blows my mind that there is only one known to exist.
There is more than one...
The one the OP posted is mine. I bought two of them from the actual importer Thomas Yu in February of 2007. Later I sold the second that I bought from Mr. Yu.
Here are pic's of the one I sold. I can't remember when I sold it, but it was probably a few years later. These were but a few of the nice Type 56 carbines I got from Mr. Yu..
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/IMG_6052.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/IMG_6052.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/IMG_6036.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/IMG_6036.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/IMG_6043.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/IMG_6043.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/IMG_6039.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/IMG_6039.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/IMG_6040.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/IMG_6040.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/IMG_6041.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/IMG_6041.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/IMG_6035.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/IMG_6035.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/IMG_6034.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/IMG_6034.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/doc310.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/doc310.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/doc311.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Stuff%20for%20sale/.highres/doc311.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
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Neat stuff SVT!! Thanks for posting it and the story behind the carbine from Joe's original post.
Nice carbine as well. thumb1
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That is cool 8)
It’s odd that they’re so rare if Val Forgett imported 400 of them; not like that’s a lot, but we should have seen more than 2. I’m sure they got snatched up rather quickly 34-35 years ago and are sitting in closets/safes only to trickle onto the secondary market at the owners’ discretion, or in future estate auctions.