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Re: /016\ vs /416\ (split from Security SKS thread)
« Reply #100 on: February 25, 2016, 11:29:22 PM »
Quote from: fenceline on February 25, 2016, 10:42:51 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on February 25, 2016, 10:32:27 PM
Ah...  I was under the impression your gun was not US imported.

Nope, US gun.  I've liberated a few from you people hahaha.

Well un-liberate it and send it back, it's marked for us anyway, I mean them terrible US import stamps.. how dare they defile such a nice Canadian specimen....it needs to be with another Security Forces 416 KFS ATL GA family anyway, trust me  :)  it will be well cared for.  thumb1 I'll hold it, while you find an unmarked specimen chuckles1
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Re: /016\ vs /416\ (split from Security SKS thread)
« Reply #101 on: February 25, 2016, 11:32:36 PM »
Sister rifle for sure.  Same 18x serial, same KFS markings.  Very cool  thumb1  Less than 500 apart haha.

I really should take a closer look at my Albanian.  Someone liberated that one from the US as well, but no obvious import mark from when it first landed state side.  I probably just haven't seen it.
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RUSSIA SKS45: Tula 49, 50, 51 x2, 53 x2, 54, 57(И); Izhevsk 53, 54
POLAND SKS45: "W.P." Marked Tula 52
CHINA TYPE 56 CARBINE: /26\ 60 "S", 61, 64, 65, 66, 79; /UK5?\ 69; /256\ 70; /316\ 70; [0138] Stamped Receiver 70 x2; /306\ 71; /416\ 公安 73; /0412\ 78
CHINA Civilian: SKS-D (XZ), "SKS-D", Cdn Para x2
N. KOREA: T63
YUGO PAP M59: 66 C-Series x2; PAP M59/66a1: 73 J, 83 T
ALBANIA 561: 78

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Re: /016\ vs /416\ (split from Security SKS thread)
« Reply #102 on: February 26, 2016, 12:23:48 AM »
I'd bet dollars to donuts that Alby is going to have a TG import stamp under the barrel (likely covered up by the bayo & cleaning rod). 

Something like:


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Re: /016\ vs /416\ (split from Security SKS thread)
« Reply #103 on: February 27, 2016, 02:40:42 AM »
Yup. Sure does. I like how it is near invisible in that location. Doesn't alter much of the outward appearance.
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RUSSIA SKS45: Tula 49, 50, 51 x2, 53 x2, 54, 57(И); Izhevsk 53, 54
POLAND SKS45: "W.P." Marked Tula 52
CHINA TYPE 56 CARBINE: /26\ 60 "S", 61, 64, 65, 66, 79; /UK5?\ 69; /256\ 70; /316\ 70; [0138] Stamped Receiver 70 x2; /306\ 71; /416\ 公安 73; /0412\ 78
CHINA Civilian: SKS-D (XZ), "SKS-D", Cdn Para x2
N. KOREA: T63
YUGO PAP M59: 66 C-Series x2; PAP M59/66a1: 73 J, 83 T
ALBANIA 561: 78

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Re: /016\ vs /416\ (split from Security SKS thread)
« Reply #104 on: March 01, 2016, 06:05:12 PM »
Quote from: fenceline on February 25, 2016, 09:03:00 PM
My Certificate of Authenticity from Keng's Firearms Specialty Inc has just arrived regarding my 016/416 Arsenal stamped, PS stamped Type 56 SKS.

It says...

"This certificate acknowledges that the Poly Technologies, Inc. SKS with Serial Number 180383## was manufactured by State Arsenal 416 in Jing-AN, China.  It was imported by Keng's Firearms Specialty, Inc. on October 13, 1987 and was sold on December 29, 1987."

So there it is.

And here is the close up of the Arsenal stamp...



  Really nice, fenceline! I've been debating whether or not to buy one of the certificates from Keng's. I think I'll get one for mine, too. I just wasn't sure it would apply to the SKS and not just the Polytech AK's.

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Quote from: running-man on February 25, 2016, 10:04:09 PM
Nice!  Anything else on the rest of the whole gun?  No 'China' or 7.62 anywhere?!

Nope.  Nothing except the Public Security markings on the right side.   :P

It is one of my favorite Chinese SKS, just for the quality of the wood stock.  The gun is all matching, including the stock.



  I looked at mine after reading your post and it's marked just like yours. But after further inspection, if you look just forward of your Gas Block, on the under side of the barrel, it should have a nice stamp that reads: SKS 7.62 CHINA. Very small, discreet stamp, like the Albanian TGI stamps, forward of the Gas Block.

  RM, if you need pics of that, let me know.

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Re: /016\ vs /416\ (split from Security SKS thread)
« Reply #105 on: March 01, 2016, 09:11:27 PM »
Would love to see a pic of that stamp FC!  I was surprised that this keng's stamp wasn't more detailed, but it appears I haven't been looking hard enough!  This info is much appreciated!!  thumb1
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Re: /016\ vs /416\ (split from Security SKS thread)
« Reply #106 on: March 01, 2016, 09:14:00 PM »
Quote from: running-man on March 01, 2016, 09:11:27 PM
Would love to see a pic of that stamp FC!  I was surprised that this keng's stamp wasn't more detailed, but it appears I haven't been looking hard enough!  This info is much appreciated!!  thumb1

Which stamp?
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RUSSIA SKS45: Tula 49, 50, 51 x2, 53 x2, 54, 57(И); Izhevsk 53, 54
POLAND SKS45: "W.P." Marked Tula 52
CHINA TYPE 56 CARBINE: /26\ 60 "S", 61, 64, 65, 66, 79; /UK5?\ 69; /256\ 70; /316\ 70; [0138] Stamped Receiver 70 x2; /306\ 71; /416\ 公安 73; /0412\ 78
CHINA Civilian: SKS-D (XZ), "SKS-D", Cdn Para x2
N. KOREA: T63
YUGO PAP M59: 66 C-Series x2; PAP M59/66a1: 73 J, 83 T
ALBANIA 561: 78

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Re: /016\ vs /416\ (split from Security SKS thread)
« Reply #107 on: March 01, 2016, 10:32:33 PM »
Quote from: fenceline on March 01, 2016, 09:14:00 PM
Quote from: running-man on March 01, 2016, 09:11:27 PM
Would love to see a pic of that stamp FC!  I was surprised that this keng's stamp wasn't more detailed, but it appears I haven't been looking hard enough!  This info is much appreciated!!  thumb1

Which stamp?

Firstchoice says there is a "SKS 7.62 CHINA" stamp forward of the gas block at the bottom of the barrel.  Much like the Alby TGI stamps....
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Re: /016\ vs /416\ (split from Security SKS thread)
« Reply #108 on: March 01, 2016, 11:15:14 PM »
Will take a look and get back to you.
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RUSSIA SKS45: Tula 49, 50, 51 x2, 53 x2, 54, 57(И); Izhevsk 53, 54
POLAND SKS45: "W.P." Marked Tula 52
CHINA TYPE 56 CARBINE: /26\ 60 "S", 61, 64, 65, 66, 79; /UK5?\ 69; /256\ 70; /316\ 70; [0138] Stamped Receiver 70 x2; /306\ 71; /416\ 公安 73; /0412\ 78
CHINA Civilian: SKS-D (XZ), "SKS-D", Cdn Para x2
N. KOREA: T63
YUGO PAP M59: 66 C-Series x2; PAP M59/66a1: 73 J, 83 T
ALBANIA 561: 78

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Re: /016\ vs /416\ (split from Security SKS thread)
« Reply #109 on: May 01, 2016, 10:50:19 PM »
Quote from: fenceline on March 01, 2016, 11:15:14 PM
Will take a look and get back to you.

  I was curious as to whether the "SKS 7.62 CHINA" stamp was located in the same location on your KFS-imported Public Security Rifle?

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