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Title: American Rifleman, M1 carbine Article, November, 1962
Post by: running-man on June 07, 2017, 12:22:01 AM
I came across a large box of old American rifleman magazines while cleaning out my father-in-law's attic.  He let me have them as thanks for helping clean out about 50 years worth of stuff from up there.  The first one I cracked open had this little two page blurb on M1 Carbines that I thought I'd share.  The font is pretty small, I scanned them to 300 dpi, hopefully it's detailed enough to make out the words:
(https://s20.postimg.org/616bojwjh/m1_carbine.jpg)
(https://s20.postimg.org/bqmk8v2pp/m1_carbine1.jpg)

There was also ads galore, with prices to make me :o a little bit:
(https://s20.postimg.org/thy6nbi4d/196211_milsurp.jpg)
(https://s20.postimg.org/o7t7w0xvh/196211_milsurp1.jpg)
Title: Re: American Rifleman, M1 carbine Article, November, 1962
Post by: running-man on June 07, 2017, 12:34:17 AM
Well bummer, postimage is downsizing images to reduced size (despite the "do not resize" button) like photobucket is.  Heck maybe worse, PB gives me the option to go to 1000 pixels wide.  Postimage is only 800x618 instead of the original 3300x2550.

Here are thumbnail links to download the hi res files:
(https://thumb.ibb.co/ncyVja/196211_milsurp.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ncyVja)
(https://thumb.ibb.co/dNNZAF/196211_milsurp1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dNNZAF)
(https://thumb.ibb.co/mtqMqF/m1_carbine.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mtqMqF)
(https://thumb.ibb.co/kMCCxv/m1_carbine1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kMCCxv)
Title: Re: American Rifleman, M1 carbine Article, November, 1962
Post by: spongemonkey on June 07, 2017, 08:05:36 AM
Looks good and works for me RM!   thumb1
Title: Re: American Rifleman, M1 carbine Article, November, 1962
Post by: carls sks on June 07, 2017, 08:58:51 AM
   :o thanks for sharing R/man.  thumb1 
Title: Re: American Rifleman, M1 carbine Article, November, 1962
Post by: Phosphorus32 on June 07, 2017, 11:38:10 AM
Decent little article on the M1 carbine  thumb1

I like the old ads. Fun to see the prices in 1962 dollars, which are worth about $8 by a CPI calculator.

https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=1&year1=196201&year2=201704

Regarding BS and inaccuracies, the ads of yesteryear are as bad as, or even worse than, those today. In the lower right calling an M1891 Argentine carbine a "Mauser Mannlicher". The only thing that even looks like a Mannlicher is the extended magazine, except by that measure even a Mosin is a Mannlicher. The use of an en bloc clip and a pass through magazine was the hallmark of a Mannlicher. Amazingly, Hunter's Lodge still exists in vestigial form today and has a generally poor reputation.
Title: Re: American Rifleman, M1 carbine Article, November, 1962
Post by: Greasemonkey on June 07, 2017, 01:54:03 PM
Kind of funny  :)) reading the Hunters Lodge ad... "Member of the Interarmco Group".... Sam Cummings giant surplus store, a major player in the arms business, it's still around, today it's Interarms.. so how much influence/control did Interarmco have on the Hunters Lodge..  and I think the address 200 S.Union St in Alexandria Va is still listed as owned by Interarms.
Title: Re: American Rifleman, M1 carbine Article, November, 1962
Post by: newchi on June 07, 2017, 10:52:36 PM
what you could buy for $15 in 1962 would cost $447 today
I dont follow the us enfield market but that sounds close doesnt it?
Title: Re: American Rifleman, M1 carbine Article, November, 1962
Post by: spongemonkey on June 07, 2017, 11:31:02 PM
what you could buy for $15 in 1962 would cost $447 today
I dont follow the us enfield market but that sounds close doesnt it?

I hear you.  Back in 1967, I would ride my bike over to the local filling station a block away from where we lived with an empty gallon milk jug and 2 quarters to buy a gallon of gas (about 27 cents per gallon then) for the lawn mower.  Got the gas, some change to bring back home, and back to cutting grass when I got back with the gas.  Yeah, those were the days!   :)
Title: Re: American Rifleman, M1 carbine Article, November, 1962
Post by: Greasemonkey on June 08, 2017, 01:07:17 AM
Oh well.. I found an old newspaper where the City of Alexandria was Planning to repurpose a Interarms warehouse..from 7/18/12. The article is right on the front page with title in red letters... Indigo Dreams: Carr Hospitality moves forward with plans to redevelop waterfront property.

http://connectionarchives.com/PDF/2012/071812/Alexandria.pdf

But..I did find some really neat other stuff.
Their building with their dock right on the Potomac River...the days of no import inspections or harbor police.
(http://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/Interarms/AlexandriaDocks.jpg)
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Interarms dock and warehouses, Port of Alexandria, Virginia circa 1963. The square building with the brown two tone roof on the bottom right hand corner of the image was Potomac Arms. Founded by an Interarms employee, it was an area favorite. From: The Lore of Guns website.
The retail outlets..
(http://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/Interarms/PotomacArms.jpg)
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Potomac Arms was a major mail order retailer of firearms and ammunition obtained from Interarms and was owned by a former Interarms employee. It also housed for a time the retail outlet of Interarms, variously named "Ye Olde Hunter" and "Hunters Haven" on the first floor. Potomac Arms closed in 2006. From: The Lore of Guns website.

Ye Olde Hunter is right there on the page RM scanned, and above is where it would have come from, way back in the day. thumb1 Potomac Arms closed it's doors in 2006, The city of Alexandria took over the property, more than likely to rehabilitate it and help promote Old Town Alexandria tourism.

Photos from this article
http://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/Interarms/interarms.html  Which quotes to here... has some more neat info, and mentions SKSs and Chinese Aks. http://gunlore.awardspace.info/gunknow/interarms.htm
Title: Re: American Rifleman, M1 carbine Article, November, 1962
Post by: Phosphorus32 on June 08, 2017, 01:47:46 AM
what you could buy for $15 in 1962 would cost $447 today
I dont follow the us enfield market but that sounds close doesnt it?
No1 MkIII for $15 in 1962 = $120 in 2017, but its value has outstripped inflation by about 3x. Similarly for the $25 No5 Mk1 = $200 in 2017 but worth about 3x.