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Neat pistols I like the grips on the Galesi. The PSF and star is a Gardone and Brescia final proof. The XXII date indicates production between 10/28/43 and 10/27/44, the XXII year of the fascist regime. Interesting, since Mussolini was removed on July 28 1943 and the Italian armistice with the allies was September 28, 1943. So this pistol was produced quite late in WWII, after capitulation of Mussolini's former government in the south. Since Brescia is in Lombardy in northern Italy, your pistol was produced under the German controlled Italian government (with Mussolini installed as the puppet leader, d. 4/28/45), where they still used that Roman numeral dating convention.On your German Hawes pistol, the hatched shield is apparently a Munich proof house mark used from 1968 on. The N eagle was the final nitro (smokeless powder) commercial proof used since 1952, so your supposition that the 68 is for the year of production/proofing sounds likely.
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on November 16, 2017, 03:45:08 PMNeat pistols I like the grips on the Galesi. The PSF and star is a Gardone and Brescia final proof. The XXII date indicates production between 10/28/43 and 10/27/44, the XXII year of the fascist regime. Interesting, since Mussolini was removed on July 28 1943 and the Italian armistice with the allies was September 28, 1943. So this pistol was produced quite late in WWII, after capitulation of Mussolini's former government in the south. Since Brescia is in Lombardy in northern Italy, your pistol was produced under the German controlled Italian government (with Mussolini installed as the puppet leader, d. 4/28/45), where they still used that Roman numeral dating convention.On your German Hawes pistol, the hatched shield is apparently a Munich proof house mark used from 1968 on. The N eagle was the final nitro (smokeless powder) commercial proof used since 1952, so your supposition that the 68 is for the year of production/proofing sounds likely.I was 10 or so years off.. I was figuring mid-late 50's on the Galesi.. based off the fancy non-military style grips. But, I hadn't really dug much into it as of yet. So is it military...or a commercial weapon? I cant imagine Germany having commercial weaponry built in the middle of a raging war.
Galesi Manufacture DatesThe following codes will tell you the date of manufacture of the little Galesi pistols. It usually appears on the right side of the frame either behind or over the trigger:Year Code1954 = X1955=XI1956=XII1957=XIII1958=XIV1959=XV1960=XVI1961=XVII1962=XVIII1963=XIX1964=XX1965=XXI1966=XXII1967=XXIII1968=XXIV1969=XXV1970=XXVI1971=XXVII1972=XXVIII1973=XXIX1974=XXX1975=AA1976=AB1977=AC1978=AD1979=AE1980=AF1981=AH1982=AI1983=AL1984=AM1985=AN1988=AP1987=AS1988=AT1989=AW1990=AZ1991=BA
Ah-ha! So you've got one C&R from '66 and another just 1.5 months shy of C&R status. That's a handy chart for the Italian dates
Nice haul. I'm a big fan of mouse guns and pocket pistols.I'm not familiar with the Hawes. I dig 20th surplus and old school pistols with original boxes.I've got minty 1956 Armi Galesi (no roman numeral date stamps)-- from what I can tell it's a Model 9 in 6.35mm/24 acp. Had some problems with mags not fully seating. But it's a solid, dependable shooter. I put about 50 rounds through it with zero failures.