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Online Boris Badinov

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Regarding very early 1950 Tulas
« on: September 13, 2017, 01:15:30 AM »
If 1950 Tula has the early eye-hole  receiver cover release tab will it have the 90degree gas port?

Or does the eye-hole tab overlap with the introduction of the 45degree gas port?

I ask because a member over on the akfiles claims to have found BBQ'd 1950 in a force matched 1951 stock and an early style, eyelet release tab

...for $500
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Re: Regarding very early 1950 Tulas
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2017, 01:23:38 AM »
Price seemed a tad high for a heavy bbq refurb (apparently all metal parts match).

But if it has a 90degree gas port-- even with the bbq and forcematch stock-- it would be worth more...no? Possibly substantially more?

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Re: Regarding very early 1950 Tulas
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2017, 08:38:08 AM »
I (my dad really) have a 50 with the eye hole latch and it has the 45, for whatever thats worth.

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Re: Regarding very early 1950 Tulas
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2017, 08:44:27 AM »
There is overlap.  It's not 100% clear whether the tab changed first or whether the gas block did, but based on the 10 or 15 examples I have in the database I suspect it was the gas block changing early on and then the takedown lever changing to a stamped loop tab and then shortly to the long stamped tab.  I'm out on TDY this week so I'll see if I can find some time to get some examples up later today.

$500 is not out of line for a heavy furb.  High end perhaps, but they can run in $600s if the BBQ paint is in good shape and they have blonde laminate stocks.
      

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Re: Regarding very early 1950 Tulas
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2017, 08:56:56 AM »
$500 is not out of line for a heavy furb.  High end perhaps, but they can run in $600s if the BBQ paint is in good shape and they have blonde laminate stocks.

Do you mean for an 1950 early style, eyelet tab rifle?

Or a 1950 with the eyelet tab AND the 90degree gas block?

Or is the 90degree gas block only very valuable on the 49 carbines?

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Re: Regarding very early 1950 Tulas
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2017, 04:59:22 PM »
$500 for any heavy furb Russian. Transitional '50s generally don't have that much premium over others, maybe $50 on avg. I'd say.
      

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Re: Regarding very early 1950 Tulas
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2017, 06:58:18 PM »
I have a refurbished 50. It has a 45 degree gas port and has a eye hole latch pin.

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Re: Regarding very early 1950 Tulas
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2017, 10:43:50 PM »
On Canadian Gun Nutz forum under my 1950 entry a 1950 was posted with pictures. It has the engraved date, hand stamped Tula star and eyelet latch cover. It doesn't have a 90 degree gas port or spike bayonet. But it shows early a 1950 transition.  It has a refurb mark and painted, but it should help in showing how the carbine changed in 1950.

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Re: Regarding very early 1950 Tulas
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2017, 08:26:34 AM »
I'm not finding your post there. Is it in the red rifles section?  Got a link?
      

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Re: Regarding very early 1950 Tulas
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2017, 10:01:50 AM »
Canadian Gun Nutz - Forum - Firearm and Optics - Milsurp -  It is on page 2, 11-04-2017-10:32 PM. I am waiting for his permission to post his pictures on this forum.

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Re: Regarding very early 1950 Tulas
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2017, 12:46:27 PM »
Ahh I was looking in red rifles.  Got it: https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1628049-1950-SKS-with-SPIKE-BAYONET

I have 4 ЕГ guns in the database, but three of them are '53 Izhevsks.  The 1 odd man out is an unidentified year gun:





Unfortunately, not a ton of detail in those photos, I can't make out the receiver cover stamping other than to see it's a Tula.  Very plausible it's a '50 due to the early receiver and early bolt design though.  May or may not have a 90 gas block and/or looped receiver cover takedown lever.