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General Milsurp Weapons => Milsurp Hand Guns & Sub Guns => Topic started by: newchi on April 20, 2017, 07:39:23 PM

Title: A pretty plum TT
Post by: newchi on April 20, 2017, 07:39:23 PM
Whatever makes things a funny color doesnt just affect svt bolts it seems.
(i thought i had the side pic too, cant remember where i saw this now)
(https://s2.postimg.org/s49g5iky1/27035735_4.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5fk95y3k5/)
Title: Re: A pretty plum TT
Post by: GuitarmanNick on April 20, 2017, 07:48:12 PM
Is that an arsenal refurbished TT? I read somewhere that the finish on those may not be perfect. Heard of some with a "straw" color, too.
Title: Re: A pretty plum TT
Post by: newchi on April 20, 2017, 07:54:51 PM
Is that an arsenal refurbished TT?
Presumably, i mean it had to be refinished at least once since 1937, but i have never seen a wacky color like this.
Of course i wouldn't  touch it with those import markings anyway, plus i already have 2.
But interesting none the less.
(enter RM with color wheel to tell us this is shade 37 out of 64) :))

(https://s16.postimg.org/ga819dgyd/27035735_1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/llmxu330x/)
Title: Re: A pretty plum TT
Post by: Phosphorus32 on April 20, 2017, 08:01:46 PM
I can't see the pic at my current location for some reason, but I think plum bluing can be a nice looking feature. I've got a P-64 with a plum slide (almost a brownish-purple) that I really like.

(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/FEG%20PA-63/A1648EA7-BD82-4A90-9D0E-450491DB784A.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/FEG%20PA-63/A1648EA7-BD82-4A90-9D0E-450491DB784A.jpg.html)

There are a number of reasons that chemical hot bluing can result in plum or other "off" colors. First, the chemistry of the bluing process: temperature of the salt bath, time in the bath, too high a concentration of salts (water evaporates quickly in the essentially boiling salt solution), or depletion of certain chemical solutes in the bluing salts. Second, the metal composition of the steel, since steel not only contains iron and carbon but many other metals such as cobalt, or manganese, or nickel, or molybdenum, or chrome at varying concentrations, depending on the alloy.  I don't recall what different metal constituents lead to different colors other than the deep blue/black, but I'm just aware that the alloy composition does affect the color.
Title: Re: A pretty plum TT
Post by: Greasemonkey on April 20, 2017, 08:09:40 PM
I've seen plum colored Finn M39s, usually a "B" barrel.

 
Title: Re: A pretty plum TT
Post by: newchi on April 20, 2017, 08:12:58 PM
I can't see the pic at my current location for some reason, but I think plum bluing can be a nice looking feature. I've got a P-64 with a plum slide (almost a brownish-purple) that I really like.


Ok, did you switch the safetys for contrast, or did you get a plum slide with black safety and vice versa?
Title: Re: A pretty plum TT
Post by: Greasemonkey on April 20, 2017, 08:14:27 PM
Plum Yugo M59

(http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af283/C13mechanic/m59/SAM_0623_zpsacfd3b58.jpg) (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/C13mechanic/media/m59/SAM_0623_zpsacfd3b58.jpg.html)
(http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af283/C13mechanic/m59/SAM_0624_zps79693eea.jpg) (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/C13mechanic/media/m59/SAM_0624_zps79693eea.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A pretty plum TT
Post by: newchi on April 20, 2017, 08:17:07 PM
Well, thats it, we need a plum subforum.
I had no idea it happened so often
Title: Re: A pretty plum TT
Post by: Phosphorus32 on April 20, 2017, 10:05:40 PM
I can't see the pic at my current location for some reason, but I think plum bluing can be a nice looking feature. I've got a P-64 with a plum slide (almost a brownish-purple) that I really like.


Ok, did you switch the safetys for contrast, or did you get a plum slide with black safety and vice versa?

 :)) no, no switching of parts.
Title: Re: A pretty plum TT
Post by: Donp236 on April 21, 2017, 06:55:26 AM
The plum color is the result of the bluing process not being correct.  IE the chemicals not correctly mixed.

I have seem the plum color on Walther P.38 Frames and barrels on 1944 and early 1945 guns when there was a rush to get them out.
Title: Re: A pretty plum TT
Post by: spongemonkey on April 21, 2017, 08:33:10 AM
My Bulgarian Makarovs have "plum" colored safetys and hammers.