Author Topic: Mosin-Nagant Marksmanship Chart  (Read 244 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Online Greasemonkey

  • Professional foul mouth. Banned for life!! Certified Enabler
  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Sniper
  • *
  • Posts: I am a geek!!
  • Never rub another man's rhubarb!!!
Mosin-Nagant Marksmanship Chart
« on: November 14, 2017, 06:22:52 PM »
Saw this posted elsehere.. bunch of neat info.. especially on temperature and elevation.  I ran across it in Russian a few times, someone finally translated it to English   thumb1


http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/11/14/mosin-nagant-marksmanship-chart-translated-english-explained/

« Last Edit: November 14, 2017, 08:44:33 PM by Loose}{Cannon »
I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse......

Leave the gun – take the cannoli.

Online Loose}{Cannon

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Sniper
  • *
  • Posts: I am a geek!!
  • Constitutional Extremist
Re: Mosin-Nagant Marksmanship Chart
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2017, 07:12:57 PM »
Neat....   does it come with tylenol though?  My head hurts.   :o
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Online Phosphorus32

  • Global Moderator With Battlefield Commission
  • Trade Count: (+6)
  • Sniper
  • *
  • Posts: 2887
  • Send lawyers guns and money...uh, skip the lawyers
Re: Mosin-Nagant Marksmanship Chart
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2017, 07:13:38 PM »
Yeah, I saw that. A lot of practical shooting info. I like the range finder, and the objects appear closer/farther guidelines  thumb1

Penetrating 33.5" of pine seems a bit optimistic  :o but I'm not volunteering to stand on the other side  :))

Online Loose}{Cannon

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Sniper
  • *
  • Posts: I am a geek!!
  • Constitutional Extremist
Re: Mosin-Nagant Marksmanship Chart
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2017, 07:46:21 PM »
I wonder how many WW2 Russians stopped to reference this before shooting the enemy. 
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Online newchi

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Marksman
  • *
  • Posts: 478
Re: Mosin-Nagant Marksmanship Chart
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2017, 07:58:54 PM »
i like it,  thumb1 very interesting

Online Loose}{Cannon

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Sniper
  • *
  • Posts: I am a geek!!
  • Constitutional Extremist
Re: Mosin-Nagant Marksmanship Chart
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2017, 08:00:54 PM »
What the hell is a 'milliradian'?
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Online Greasemonkey

  • Professional foul mouth. Banned for life!! Certified Enabler
  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Sniper
  • *
  • Posts: I am a geek!!
  • Never rub another man's rhubarb!!!
Re: Mosin-Nagant Marksmanship Chart
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2017, 08:06:31 PM »
Yeah, I saw that. A lot of practical shooting info. I like the range finder, and the objects appear closer/farther guidelines  thumb1

Penetrating 33.5" of pine seems a bit optimistic  :o but I'm not volunteering to stand on the other side  :))

It does say "close range" but doesn't specify any distance..... I would guess between 25 to 100m would be a plausible distance..

Wonder how much some of the numbers change when you switch from 147gr light ball to the 174/180gr heavy ball, or go from a M91/30 to a M91.


What the hell is a 'milliradian'?

guess you don't read so good.... nea1

Quote
On the very top of the chart, there is a milliradian ruler. Each small increment is equal to 2 Mils. In the handbook, Oparin gives an example of using the ruler. For example, if you need to measure the distance to the turn of the road, you’ll need to place the ruler at 50 centimeters from your eye (average distance of outstretched hand) and measure by how many Mils the road is covered at that distance. Let’s say the road’s width at the needed distance measures 14 Mils. Knowing that the width of that road is 7 meters, you can place those numbers into the following formula and get the distance to the turn of the road.

Distance = Heigh(Width) x 1000 / Mils

In our example, the distance to the turn of the 7 meter wide road that covers 14 mils will be 500 meters (7 x 1000 / 14 = 500).

It’s important to know that the Soviet Mils are slightly different than NATO Mils. Both are rounded for the sake of calculations simplification. Milliradian (or Mil or Mrad) is an angular measurement that is equal to one-thousandth of a radian (one radian is about 57.3 degrees). The NATO Mil is slightly smaller than the true milliradian. It measures  0.982 of the real Mil. The Warsaw Pact/Soviet Mil is a bit more than the real milliradian and measures about 1.047 of real Mil.
I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse......

Leave the gun – take the cannoli.

Online Loose}{Cannon

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Sniper
  • *
  • Posts: I am a geek!!
  • Constitutional Extremist
Re: Mosin-Nagant Marksmanship Chart
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2017, 08:25:54 PM »
Wow!!!    It said all that at the top of the chart thingy!?!?

Must have missed it.  Then again, I cant read.   ::)

Not seeing a link is no reason to assume someone cannot read. 
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Online Loose}{Cannon

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Sniper
  • *
  • Posts: I am a geek!!
  • Constitutional Extremist
Re: Mosin-Nagant Marksmanship Chart
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2017, 08:28:39 PM »
Still have to wonder...  How many guys whipped this thing out in combat?
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Online Greasemonkey

  • Professional foul mouth. Banned for life!! Certified Enabler
  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Sniper
  • *
  • Posts: I am a geek!!
  • Never rub another man's rhubarb!!!
Re: Mosin-Nagant Marksmanship Chart
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2017, 08:39:38 PM »


Not seeing a link is no reason to assume someone cannot read.

Link was posted right above the chart in my OP... thumb1


http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/11/14/mosin-nagant-marksmanship-chart-translated-english-explained/
I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse......

Leave the gun – take the cannoli.

Online Loose}{Cannon

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Sniper
  • *
  • Posts: I am a geek!!
  • Constitutional Extremist
Re: Mosin-Nagant Marksmanship Chart
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2017, 08:45:39 PM »
Yeah... I see that now, although your alteration of the link drastically messed up the page display on a phone. 
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Online newchi

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Marksman
  • *
  • Posts: 478
Re: Mosin-Nagant Marksmanship Chart
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2017, 09:41:59 PM »
Now ive read the instructions i kinda wish i had the little booklet

Online Loose}{Cannon

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Sniper
  • *
  • Posts: I am a geek!!
  • Constitutional Extremist
Re: Mosin-Nagant Marksmanship Chart
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2017, 09:47:01 AM »
Did I mention its neat as all get-out?   thumb1

Wonder if there is one for an sks.
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.