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Carbines and rabbits?
« on: January 20, 2017, 09:10:29 PM »
I swear I only had two of these Mosin carbines two years ago...left them alone in a closet and... :o  chuckles1

I recently (well, late November) completed the every maker (country) quintet of M44s, the Polish was the last to be added.

Okay, no Tula, no super rare M1907 or St. Petersburg Cavalry School carbine, no M91/59, no M91/38...no Finnish marked.  Like I said, I've got the manufacturing countries covered and that's enough for me...now  :))


Top to Bottom, or Right to Left
1.  1954 Romanian M44, matching, very good condition
2.  1953 Hungarian M44
3.  1952 Polish M44
4.  1955 Chinese Type 53, Albanian import, unusual matching non-refurbished (but typical beat up stock)
5.  1960 Chinese Type 53, Vietnam bringback (no papers, no import marks)
6.  1945 Izhevsk M44, the relatively rare feature is that it is built on a 1930 Tula hex receiver
7.  1945 Izhevsk M44 in a post-war laminate stock
8.  1948 Izhevsk M44, non-refurbished, last year of Russian production, relatively scarce
9.  1942 Izhevsk M38
10. 1943 Izhevsk M38









1. 1954 Romanian M44, matching, very good condition


2. 1953 Hungarian M44


3. 1952 Polish M44


4. 1955 Chinese Type 53, Albanian import, unusual matching non-refurbished (but typical beat up stock)


5. 1960 Chinese Type 53, Vietnam bringback (no papers, no import marks)
http://sks-files.com/index.php?topic=2370.0


6. 1945 Izhevsk M44, unusual feature is that it is built on a 1930 Tula hex receiver
http://sks-files.com/index.php?topic=538.0


7. 1945 Izhevsk M44 in a post-war laminate stock


8. 1948 Izhevsk M44, non-refurbished, last year of Russian production, relatively scarce


9. 1942 Izhevsk M38


10. 1943 Izhevsk M38

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Re: Carbines and rabbits?
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2017, 09:16:46 PM »
The only way to avoid Mosin #2 is to avoid Mosin #1!   dance2
      

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Re: Carbines and rabbits?
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2017, 09:25:11 PM »
Very nice.
You guys get a better selection of former soviet countries, all we get is Russian.
I see m38's from time to time, rarely m44's

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Re: Carbines and rabbits?
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2017, 09:27:44 PM »
Nice... thumb1 thumb1. I need a moment..to get ahold of myself after that rofl2

'ol RM.... One day my fine friend.. Hell with it... Im doing a GoFundMe and buying one,  been saying it for a while... Welp... Its time. And shipping it to you as a gift. Oh yeah.. With an official SKSFiles award plaque... The greatest SKS price checker and monitor on any board bar none. You go above and beyond the calling every month for our fine membership here..  thumb1 Just for the guilt so you keep it..  Whatcha think I went through all the trouble to renew my C&R for....again, like I actually want that horrid piece of money costing paper....again. I did it for you buddy, took one for the team to give you an appreaction award.  thumb1
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Re: Carbines and rabbits?
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2017, 12:01:15 AM »
The only way to avoid Mosin #2 #63 is to avoid Mosin #1!   dance2

Fixed it for ya...   wink1
      
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Re: Carbines and rabbits?
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2017, 10:00:25 AM »
Sweet! You could outfit some small African countries in arms with that lot! :)
Canadian...eh!

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Re: Carbines and rabbits?
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2017, 12:21:23 PM »
The only way to avoid Mosin #2 is to avoid Mosin #1!   dance2

I've heard that somewhere before but clearly I failed to heed the sound advice in this truism...


The only way to avoid Mosin #2 #63 is to avoid Mosin #1!   dance2

Fixed it for ya...   wink1

Not even close...I only have 24 Mosins   :-[  :)

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Re: Carbines and rabbits?
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2017, 12:32:37 PM »
Very nice.
You guys get a better selection of former soviet countries, all we get is Russian.
I see m38's from time to time, rarely m44's

Thanks!  Always interesting to hear of the market differences between the US and Canada.  All of the former eastern bloc country M44 clones came into the US years ago. They all have the older CAI import marks at the muzzle end of the barrel with the older St. Albans VT location except for the Hungarian which has a newer Georgia, VT address, but still at the muzzle end. I suspect all of the surplus stock of Romania, Hungary and Poland has been sold by now. The '55 Chinese T53 that has a receiver "billboard" import mark  sick1 came in from Albania in 2012.

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Re: Carbines and rabbits?
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2017, 12:35:29 PM »
Nice... thumb1 thumb1. I need a moment..to get ahold of myself after that rofl2

'ol RM.... One day my fine friend.. Hell with it... Im doing a GoFundMe and buying one,  been saying it for a while... Welp... Its time. And shipping it to you as a gift. Oh yeah.. With an official SKSFiles award plaque... The greatest SKS price checker and monitor on any board bar none. You go above and beyond the calling every month for our fine membership here..  thumb1 Just for the guilt so you keep it..  Whatcha think I went through all the trouble to renew my C&R for....again, like I actually want that horrid piece of money costing paper....again. I did it for you buddy, took one for the team to give you an appreaction award.  thumb1

Thanks GM!  :)

Let me know when you get that GoFundMe account set up.  I think the rattiest T53 with the sweetest trigger would be ideal for Joe.  Every bueno Nuevo Mexicano needs a Mosin in the gun rack of his pick up  thumb1  chuckles1

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Re: Carbines and rabbits?
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2017, 12:37:11 PM »
Sweet! You could outfit some small African countries in arms with that lot! :)

Thanks Luke!   :)) At least a well equipped rifle squad.

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Re: Carbines and rabbits?
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2017, 01:36:30 PM »
Holy Mosinitus Batman!  :o Sweet, Phos, Very sweet bunch ya got there  thumb1

You didn't just beat me to it, you left me standing on the side of the road with a flat and no spare tire  rofl I'm still hunting down my elusive Hungarian in the wild, to finish my set out. I got lucky on my pair of polish early on ( although they came here via Romania, so neither is close to matching)

Nice man, gives us something to shoot for  thumb1

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Re: Carbines and rabbits?
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2017, 01:38:04 PM »
I picked up a near mint Polish M44 last year at a gun show, i was shocked, and i had already walked around it twice.  The previous owner may not have shot it and i know they never took it apart, cosmoline was still everywhere you couldn't see.  Ever since i wave been hoping to find more carbines.

I was wondering how you got them all lined up like that but then i figured out the ammo can on the end.

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Re: Carbines and rabbits?
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2017, 04:05:14 PM »
Holy Mosinitus Batman!  :o Sweet, Phos, Very sweet bunch ya got there  thumb1

You didn't just beat me to it, you left me standing on the side of the road with a flat and no spare tire  rofl I'm still hunting down my elusive Hungarian in the wild, to finish my set out. I got lucky on my pair of polish early on ( although they came here via Romania, so neither is close to matching)

Nice man, gives us something to shoot for  thumb1

Your right on GM, bout time ole RM gets the bug....He wont know what hit him!

 :))  Thanks AH! 

Neither my Hungarian or Polish are matching but they are both in the proper 02 and OW marked stocks, respectively.  The Romanian is matching and in very good to excellent condition!



The Polish bolt is as mixed up as your average Finned Mosin: pre-1928 Izhevsk bolt body (SN scrubbed), Sako cocking piece  :o, NEW East Springfield plant connector, and a bolt head for which I can't ID a manufacturer.  I suspect a post import "put-together" bolt by a previous owner, but who knows.  I suppose it's possible that a Finnish/Sako part made it's way (via Russian capture) to Poland...not betting any money on it however.







I picked up a near mint Polish M44 last year at a gun show, i was shocked, and i had already walked around it twice.  The previous owner may not have shot it and i know they never took it apart, cosmoline was still everywhere you couldn't see.  Ever since i wave been hoping to find more carbines.

I was wondering how you got them all lined up like that but then i figured out the ammo can on the end.

I love those minty Polish M44s but they bring big bucks, $500+, here in the States. Can't bring myself to pay that much for one.  Would love to see your Polski karabin  :)

It was sort of a house of cards even with the ammo can support, but I finally got them all upright and more or less in the same orientation  :))

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Re: Carbines and rabbits?
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2017, 04:59:13 PM »
Well, mint by surplus standards, everything matches.
I only have my insurance file photos on the computer, so every ding and distinguishing mark and scratch is documented.
I scratched it on the stock about 2 mins after getting it home.  :(
It was a steal, the guy was selling it for his dentist (so he said) $350cdn.
I was all IKEA start the car on the way out of there.








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Re: Carbines and rabbits?
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2017, 05:12:32 PM »
Nice... thumb1 thumb1. I need a moment..to get ahold of myself after that rofl2

'ol RM.... One day my fine friend.. Hell with it... Im doing a GoFundMe and buying one,  been saying it for a while... Welp... Its time. And shipping it to you as a gift. Oh yeah.. With an official SKSFiles award plaque... The greatest SKS price checker and monitor on any board bar none. You go above and beyond the calling every month for our fine membership here..  thumb1 Just for the guilt so you keep it..  Whatcha think I went through all the trouble to renew my C&R for....again, like I actually want that horrid piece of money costing paper....again. I did it for you buddy, took one for the team to give you an appreaction award.  thumb1

Thanks GM!  :)

Let me know when you get that GoFundMe account set up.  I think the rattiest T53 with the sweetest trigger would be ideal for Joe.  Every bueno Nuevo Mexicano needs a Mosin in the gun rack of his pick up  thumb1  chuckles1

Between P32 and me there are only 53 Mosins... Not 64 rofl. So Joe has room to fill in the final 11 thumb1

I have the perfect one for Joe.. Sweet trigger nice bore and /26\ stamp approved. Its not Finnish rofl

Hippie I apologize for Enabling.. Send me that Rommy I guilted you in to. rofl
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Re: Carbines and rabbits?
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2017, 06:06:17 PM »
Well, mint by surplus standards, everything matches.
I only have my insurance file photos on the computer, so every ding and distinguishing mark and scratch is documented.
I scratched it on the stock about 2 mins after getting it home.  :(
It was a steal, the guy was selling it for his dentist (so he said) $350cdn.
I was all IKEA start the car on the way out of there.






Very nice!  thumb1  8)  Yup, I would've gotten friction burns on my fingers from pulling out my wallet if I saw that here for...*calculating*...~280 USD  chuckles1

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Re: Carbines and rabbits?
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2017, 06:15:48 PM »
Well, mint by surplus standards, everything matches.
I only have my insurance file photos on the computer, so every ding and distinguishing mark and scratch is documented.
I scratched it on the stock about 2 mins after getting it home.  :(
It was a steal, the guy was selling it for his dentist (so he said) $350cdn.
I was all IKEA start the car on the way out of there.






Very nice!  thumb1  8)  Yup, I would've gotten friction burns on my fingers from pulling out my wallet if I saw that here for...*calculating*...~280 USD  chuckles1
280... I want to say something slightly disrespectful...  rofl2 But Im on vacation. Nice price thumb1
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Leave the gun, take the cannoli.

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Re: Carbines and rabbits?
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2017, 07:27:57 PM »
280 for a mosin!!    :o
      
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2017, 08:55:38 PM »
280 for a Mosin.. An unfired Polish Mosin. Yeah..he sucks rofl2
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2017, 08:59:15 PM »
Anyone want a mosin?   rofl2
      
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