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Got a feeling atf will be contacting you one day real soon. There is a reason Midwest Ordnance stopped doing their ak mag conversions.
That's considered "manufacturing" a firearm by the atf and you'd need special licensing to do it legally!
What is ATF doing in regards to people making their own firearms?An individual may generally make a firearm for personal use. However, individuals engaged in the business of manufacturing firearms for sale or distribution must be licensed by ATF. Additionally, there are certain restrictions on the making of firearms subject to the National Firearms Act.
Quote from: sksmcrossvilletn on September 24, 2016, 05:37:55 AMGot a feeling atf will be contacting you one day real soon. There is a reason Midwest Ordnance stopped doing their ak mag conversions.Quote from: sksmcrossvilletn on September 24, 2016, 05:39:32 AMThat's considered "manufacturing" a firearm by the atf and you'd need special licensing to do it legally!Suggest you brush up on your 18 U.S. Code § 922 as this is not true. Midwest Ordinance building many hundreds of conversions for resale is in a far different category than the build shown in this thread intended for personal use. I'm sure padams8888 will be compliant with all federal, state, and municipal laws when he is done including the always important NFA (machine gun, min barrel length, etc.)ATF even explains in their Q&As:Quote from: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/what-atf-doing-regards-people-making-their-own-firearmsWhat is ATF doing in regards to people making their own firearms?An individual may generally make a firearm for personal use. However, individuals engaged in the business of manufacturing firearms for sale or distribution must be licensed by ATF. Additionally, there are certain restrictions on the making of firearms subject to the National Firearms Act.
Interesting! Has this recently changed? I've been a LEO five years and when I hired in I recall it was illegal to manufacturer even for your own personal use unless you went through NFA or other licensing.
WOW......lol.....been outta town most of the weekend......I can assure anyone that is concerned, I am in compliance. There is no manufacturing involved. Modifying, yes....and in so doing, must be 922 compliant. I also wasn't aware we had LEO finger waving going on in here.....if you have a question or concern...why not drop me a personal message? I'm pretty friendly......lol. Moving on now.
Quote from: padams8888 on September 25, 2016, 05:14:01 PMWOW......lol.....been outta town most of the weekend......I can assure anyone that is concerned, I am in compliance. There is no manufacturing involved. Modifying, yes....and in so doing, must be 922 compliant. I also wasn't aware we had LEO finger waving going on in here.....if you have a question or concern...why not drop me a personal message? I'm pretty friendly......lol. Moving on now.Even 922 is kind of trivial. That rule was mainly for importers bringing non-us firearms into the country. My ATF agent told me they rarely care about 922 on the end user level.
I'm an FFL and a gunsmith, so I'm pretty up on the laws. It is not illegal to manufacture your own firearm. It IS illegal to manufacture a firearm and SELL it.
It isn't illegal to sell a gun you have made for your own purpose.
Quote from: Stoned_Oli on October 19, 2016, 09:56:52 AMIt isn't illegal to sell a gun you have made for your own purpose. According to my ATF agent, it is very illegal. How do you prove the difference between you made it for yourself and decided to sell it and you made it for someone else? You can't sell a firearm that you manufactured for yourself, with no serial and no records. BTW we are talking about manufacturing a firearm, not building one from premade parts like a serialed AR lower. That is perfectly fine...because the serial has been recorded by the manufacturer of the lower. Now if you buy a blank unfinished AR lower, and do all the final machining, you can own that gun, but you can't SELL that gun.