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Model of 1941 Johnson Winfield sporter
« on: October 22, 2015, 09:51:49 PM »
Sometimes you gotta go different, and it's hard to get much more different than a Johnson.  :)

Even though it's a $129 sporterized model from the mid 50's, it's still a Johnson. It was designed by Melvin Johnson, a Marine, and it was used by Marines in the Pacific. Many of who preferred the design over the M1 Garand. The barrel is easily removable for a compact size, such as for paratrooper use, and it can be reassembled in just a few seconds. Also Johnson assisted Stoner in the design of the AR, the bolt of this is very close to the locking action and bolt on an AR. It uses standard M1903 strippers to load 10 rounds in a rotary magazine, so the need for the enblocs was gone. You could also load 1 round, 2 rounds 5 rounds or what ever instead of 8 or nothing. The weight and size while comparable to the M1, the Johnson design produced less felt recoil than a Garand as it absorbed some of the recoil in the action, when fired the barrel will move backwards about 5/8s of an inch.

Winfield was a big sporterizer of the Johnson in the early mid 50's when a majority of them got surplused, a .270 and 7mm sporter model was also available, as was a scoped model. This rifle has the 6 groove aftermarket Johnson manufactured barrel installed.  I guess in the end, being a hunter with 10rds of semi auto .30-06, in the woods, Bambi had a good reason to fear it. chuckles1










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Re: Model of 1941 Johnson Winfield sporter
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2015, 09:55:59 PM »
Crazy cool....  Your such a legend!
      
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Re: Model of 1941 Johnson Winfield sporter
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2015, 12:21:25 AM »
That is just Fantastic! GM. I honestly don't recall seeing 1 of these before...you can bet I'll look harder now. The as-issued 1 in the add is only $68.50  :o  :)) That thing is down right slick man. Does the stripper clip fit in the side, at the back/ under the charging handle?
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Re: Model of 1941 Johnson Winfield sporter
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2015, 04:39:07 AM »
The side...    Great thing about these is that you can single load at any time. 
      
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Re: Model of 1941 Johnson Winfield sporter
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2015, 08:08:48 AM »
That is super cool! I've never seen anything like it (guess I better start learning more about milsurps than SKSs).
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Re: Model of 1941 Johnson Winfield sporter
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2015, 10:58:39 AM »
In all seriousness....  The Marines did NOT want to give these up, and they are considered by many to be the most perfect rifle ever.

The gov simply had too much invested in the m1 to replace it at that time.
      
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Re: Model of 1941 Johnson Winfield sporter
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2015, 11:28:50 AM »
Ok another few shots... and I wonder what the this rotating rotating bolt assembly resembles....  Lets see, 

here is the bolt assembly locked in the barrel.



The bolt face,



And the chamber,



Kind of shows the influence he had during the design of the AR. Also, the bolt does rotate slightly when fired. Now this rifle was designed in 1939, and all you need is a bullet or a pointy stick to pull it down. The barrel takes about 6 seconds to remove, about 4 to reinstall. To remove the bolt add another 30 seconds, if that.  I was kinda iffy on pulling it down, but, shockingly it''s rather easy and quick. The Johnson light machine gun used the same style design, and was fed from a box mag.

To give a number on production, there was well over 6 million M1 Garands were made. The original order was for 70,000 M1941s, but in the end there were approximately 21,400 M1941s produced.  Many of which served in the Pacific during WWII, even the invasion of Iwo Jima.
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Re: Model of 1941 Johnson Winfield sporter
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2015, 12:30:03 PM »
That is too cool GM  :o Nice score  thumb1

The similarity of the bolt to the AR is striking  :o Looks like the AR-15 could've been called the Stoner-Johnson  :))

I see there's an original military configuration M1941 with bayonet on GB for a BIN of $5500 I don't really need a car to get to work  think1  banghead1  :))

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Re: Model of 1941 Johnson Winfield sporter
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2015, 12:44:56 PM »
That is too cool GM  :o Nice score  thumb1

The similarity of the bolt to the AR is striking  :o Looks like the AR-15 could've been called the Stoner-Johnson  :))

I see there's an original military configuration M1941 with bayonet on GB for a BIN of $5500 I don't really need a car to get to work  think1  banghead1  :))


Rossignol has to be in there somewhere, the French designer who designed the direct impingement gas system in 1901.. thumb1

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Actually the bayonets were kind of an epic fail, with the barrel moving back when fired, it created a few issues.

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Re: Model of 1941 Johnson Winfield sporter
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2015, 09:15:01 PM »
Range report...   hurry1
      
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Re: Model of 1941 Johnson Winfield sporter
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2015, 10:19:21 PM »
Range report...   hurry1

It rained all day, got too many in front of it, did you shuck one in the long barrel Yugo yet? :)
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Re: Model of 1941 Johnson Winfield sporter
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2015, 07:30:24 AM »
The LB is loaded with cosmo....  Is the Johnson loaded with cosmo?
      
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Re: Model of 1941 Johnson Winfield sporter
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2015, 10:53:08 AM »
Storage grease cleans up  thumb1 just like the generations of dust bunnies in the Johnson
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Re: Model of 1941 Johnson Winfield sporter
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2015, 11:36:16 AM »
How hard was it to clean the cosmo from your LB? 
      
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Re: Model of 1941 Johnson Winfield sporter
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2015, 11:47:58 AM »
I ain't cleaned it, after the photos I just wrapped it back in the bubble wrap and shoved it back in the box.   :)

It shouldn't rust with as gooey as it was.
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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2015, 01:41:50 PM »
Timeout  stop1  Go sit in your corners...no you can't choose the same corner...oh, I give up   pissing1  chuckles1

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Re: Model of 1941 Johnson Winfield sporter
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2015, 02:15:20 PM »
But...but, wait a minute.... the room is round...just how am I supposed to sit in the corner in a round padded room  crazyp1 senil1 think1
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Re: Model of 1941 Johnson Winfield sporter
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2015, 08:26:33 AM »
No cleaning rod...  All fluff and buff.   fineprint
      
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Re: Model of 1941 Johnson Winfield sporter
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2015, 04:15:29 PM »
That's top shelf Greasemonkey, I'm seriously coveting that rifle!! I've read about them but never seen one in the flesh, that's a beautiful specimen.