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Romanian SKS / Re: Odd looking serial on 1957 Romy
« Last post by Greasemonkey on Today at 01:10:05 PM »
 cry2 cry2  skeered of dying twice..  rofl2 chuckles1 rofl

probably fir the best!

fir the best.... :o

RM... the point here is to.... ENABLE.. bring the vodka bottle to the AA meeting, bring the dime bag to rehab.....not the koolaid and not a salad... Not be all sappy and empathetic and promote missing an item or failing to purchase a gun. I mean....it's....it's a Romanian, it was not some factory /ou812\ 87 billion series Chinese chuckles1   I was almost giddy at the thought of seeing some PS prefix Romy guts splattered all over my screen.

But nooooo.. oh, it's probably fir the best  ::)  :P
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Unfortunately, I haven't been able to test the theory, because I don't have the 2-pronged tool necessary for securing part of the bolt while I unscrew the other side with a flat-head.

This is not quite correct KD.  You need to secure the flat screwdriver end and then spin the spanner wrench nut (part with the two holes) off the other side. Trying to turn the slotted end with a screwdriver will ruin the mortices in the stock. The mortices in the stock keep the crossbolt from being able to spin around.  It's a very common mistake.

The pinned stock onto a long/short lug barreled action is a very very common problem. You don't have many options:
  • Grind off a section of the receiver so it seats in the stock (this makes me cringe just typing it by the way).
  • Grind off a portion of the back of the crossbolt so the receiver can seat on a solid crossbolt.
  • Rotate the crossbolt like you mentioned. I've heard of this working, but have never tried it. It may be you still have to take a bit of material off, but not as much as off the back of the crossbolt.
  • Remove the crossbolt alltogether. The interference goes away, but so does the solid support the the crossbolt provides. With enough use, eventually the stock will crack on you.
  • Remove and replace the crossbolt with one that is ground. You can then return the stock to original with a simple crossbolt swap.
  • Sell the stock (or use it elsewhere) and try a different stock for this particular weapon.
  • Sell the weapon and get another one.
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Romanian SKS / Re: Odd looking serial on 1957 Romy
« Last post by running-man on Today at 10:43:41 AM »
Bummer. Ahh well, probably fir the best!  I don't think there's general consensus PS's are the first. Known '57 prefixes are:

PS
AA
DE

The DE's stretch into 1958, though it is not clear whether the numbering restarts or if it's a smooth transition. I suspect it's a smooth transition and we have a couple corrupt data points.  I'll look for photos and see what we find.
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Romanian SKS / Re: Odd looking serial on 1957 Romy
« Last post by Boris Badinov on Today at 09:28:10 AM »
Went back to the show this morning to pick it up...

Somebody else had already snagged it.
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Thanks Power Surge, I'll try to answer all the questions:
-I did compare the two stocks side-by-side. With the rear internal cutout of the stocks exactly even, the tip of the stocks were also even (so, no dimensional issues).
 But the cross bolt in the problem stock was positioned more than 1/8" further forward than the crossbolt on the jungle stock. This 1/8+ difference has been mentioned in some other posts I've since dredged up on-line about this problem.
- The flat part on the cross bolt is facing upwards on all cross bolts, as I believe they're supoosed to be. And besides, I don't think rotating it could cause any worse of a fit (since it's basically a circle), but i was thinking if i rotated it so the flat part was facing backwards, it might be the equivalent of shaving off the 1/8" I need. I dunno, does that make sense? Unfortunately, I haven't been able to test the theory, because I don't have the 2-pronged tool necessary for securing part of the bolt while I unscrew the other side with a flat-head.
- I'm pretty sure the barrel wasn't machined down, since it doesn't have the original sight post on it. It has an aftermarket post (great little unit form Prince50/BulletButton !) that is made for the larger diameter portion of a cut down barrel, which eliminates the need to lathe-down the barrel (and by extension, the need to remove the sight block).
 I believe he (gunsmith) just cut the barrel, crowned it, and then installed a prince50 sight.
So, going by what I'm seeing, and what I've since run across from several sources, it appears that I do have a stock made for a long-collar rifle, and short of jacking it up with some semi-major surgery, (which I'd prefer not to do, for fear of just wrecking an otherwise nice stock), I'm stuck with a stock I can't use.
I posted it last night on a couple local classified sites, at $45 or some x39 ammo, but no bites yet. (I didn't really expect any, especially since i came clean on it's compatibility issues).
Anyway, thanks for taking a few guesses, I appreciate any advice or info I can get.
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Romanian SKS / Re: Odd looking serial on 1957 Romy
« Last post by Greasemonkey on September 23, 2017, 11:53:20 PM »
On the (K), tne thing I have noticed are barrel shank/proof marks on Romanians are shared with both Russian and earlier Chinese.. Also you also might find a (o) on them. Some of these same marks can be found on the Mosins again, typically M91/30, M44 and Type 53s, all 3, the Chinese, Russian and Romanians, even on the Romanian M1969 .22 trainer has them.
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Romanian SKS / Re: Odd looking serial on 1957 Romy
« Last post by Power Surge on September 23, 2017, 11:43:21 PM »
It's possible that it could be a pressed stamp, and not a struck stamp.
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Romanian SKS / Re: Odd looking serial on 1957 Romy
« Last post by Boris Badinov on September 23, 2017, 11:31:18 PM »
...you can just make out an 'oval k' stamp on the barrel shank.

I i've seen that one on Soviet guns as well as the early chinese guns. But it's also on the two 1960 m56's I already have. And it was also on the Romanian M44 that I sold last year.
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Romanian SKS / Re: Odd looking serial on 1957 Romy
« Last post by Boris Badinov on September 23, 2017, 11:25:47 PM »
Sight leaf:


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Romanian SKS / Re: Odd looking serial on 1957 Romy
« Last post by Boris Badinov on September 23, 2017, 11:22:03 PM »
I didn't really look for any soviet features.

I was actually back on the fence about going back for it. After a bit of a sks binge year in 2016--I took a step back set myself a standard: All matching and/or unique variants only.

Is the prevailing concensus suggest that the PS series is the initial Romanian run of the M56?

I was only able to snap one other pic-- of the rear sight leaf. Battle setting "I".
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